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      Topics in this special issue:
      
        1. 2 x DVD season 2 (4)
        2. AP & T-Bird#2 (14)
        3. the stupid fanfic discussion AGAIN again again (6)
        4. THREE versions of season 2??? (3)
        5. the stupid fanfic discussion (no, let's discuss the good bits in Chivalry)
           (2)
      
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      Date:    Wed, 30 Jul 2003 19:21:29 -1000
      From:    MacWestie <mac.westie@verizon.net>
      Subject: Re: 2 x DVD season 2
      
      Kamil--
      >>>I know better than to do this... That said, it's amazing the people who
      actually do like and appreciate fanfic, even the NC-17 variety. >>>
      
      People "like" all sorts of stuff, good & bad, legal & illicit.  So, your
      point is???
      
      
      Kamil quotes Joss Whedon--
      >>>when asked what Buffy fans should do with their time now Joss said,
      "Write
      fanfiction!", and I think we know where Joss stands at this point; >>>
      
      
      Really?  Does he think it's OK for people to distribute/sell fanfic?  Based
      on HIS intellectual property?  He really doesn't mind that?  I'd be very
      interested to see _that_ quote from him.  Or from anyone who isn't
      distributing/selling fanfic.
      
      It's very telling how people who are pro-fanfic gloss over the enormous
      difference between WRITING it & spewing it publicly for notoriety, ego, $$$
      profit, or whatever it is that people do it all for.
      
      Nina (who wonders why certain people on this list are so obsessed w/ fanfic
      but is rather pressed for time these days....)
      mac.westie@verizon.net
      
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      Date:    Thu, 31 Jul 2003 02:52:03 -0700
      From:    Gregory Mate <gmate@rogers.com>
      Subject: Re: 2 x DVD season 2
      
      >Nina (who wonders why certain people on this list are so obsessed w/ fanfic
      >but is rather pressed for time these days....)
      
      Well, you were the one who brought it up again in reference to
      beccaelizabeth's post (which had nothing to do with fanfiction, btw), so I
      guess you're on the list as well!
      
      Back on topic...I'll have to check out the Best Buy (they have one here in
      town finally).  Mind you it's Canadian (the store, not the orientation) so
      I might have to do a special order.  Still, DVD's have a much longer "play
      life" than videotape, so I would probably buy seasons 3-6 (as well as
      replace my 1 & 2 VHS collection) on DVD.  Even if they just have the
      episodes, that's good enough for me.  And I've never heard Bill Panzer's
      voice, let alone on the commentaries, but for some reason I get the
      impression he sounds like Harvey Fiernstein (now I'd buy the DVD just for
      THAT, baby!)
      
      ....Greg....
      gmate@rogers.com
      He Who Is Too Far Behind On His Unread Books To Ever Consider Reading
      Fanfiction
      
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      Date:    Thu, 31 Jul 2003 00:03:21 -0700
      From:    "R. Shelton" <rshelton2@earthlink.net>
      Subject: Re: AP & T-Bird#2
      
      >Go here for an article-
      >
      >http://www.scifi.com/scifiwire/art-main.html?2003-07/30/11.05.tv
      
      Sounds like AP's going to do HL5.... -R
      
      ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
      
        Sweepstakes Hypes Highlander
      
      Highlander TV star Adrian Paul told SCI FI Wire that Anchor Bay
      Entertainment is sponsoring a sweepstakes in which the winner will
      drive away with the 1964 Thunderbird that his character, Duncan
      MacLeod, drove on the series. "I think you just turn in a form, and
      if they draw your name out of the hat, you win Duncan's car," Paul
      said in an interview.
      
      The actor was in Las Vegas at an event supporting the sweepstakes and
      launching Anchor Bay's promotional campaign for its Highlander:
      Season Two DVD collection, which is in stores now. Sweepstakes
      entries may be obtained at retailers.
      
      "It's a beautiful car," he said. "They've restored it. It's got a new
      engine, new seats, new brakes, new paint work, new everything.
      They've redone it from top to bottom. It's the car I had on the
      series, but it never seemed to work. They've made it better than it
      ever was when we used it on the show. They've fixed it up and made it
      very drivable for many years to come." Paul added that he's waiting
      for a script for a proposed Highlander 5 feature film.
      
      ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
      --
      Rachel Shelton   *
      rshelton2@earthlink.net
           @}->->->-
      
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      Date:    Thu, 31 Jul 2003 00:08:09 -0700
      From:    "R. Shelton" <rshelton2@earthlink.net>
      Subject: Re: AP & T-Bird#2
      
      At 7:57 PM -0500 7/30/03, samantha copeland wrote:
      >I saw a commercial for this the other night on AMC (during a showing of
      >HL-I).  I had been under the impression that the T-Bird was a 1965 10th
      >anniversary edition not a 1964, or is this like so many car things where it
      >was made in 1964 but is a 1965 model year?  Or is this the same kind of
      >typo like the back of the box for HL-III that said "John MacLeod"?
      
      Nope, not a typo - it's not the same car.  The original 1965 10th
      Anniversary Edition T-Bird was auctioned off at The Celebration in
      Anaheim in '98.  DP must've picked up a similar one for this
      promotion.
      
      Rachel
      --
      Rachel Shelton   *
      rshelton2@earthlink.net
           @}->->->-
      
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      Date:    Thu, 31 Jul 2003 10:06:38 +0100
      From:    Jette Goldie <jette@blueyonder.co.uk>
      Subject: Re: 2 x DVD season 2
      
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      Date:    Thu, 31 Jul 2003 08:21:19 EDT
      From:    Highlandmg@aol.com
      Subject: Re: AP & T-Bird#2
      
      Hi
      
      They used two t-birds on the series. There are photo's of both cars from
      Janeens wonderful site visit.
      
      
      Mary
      
      ------------------------------
      
      Date:    Thu, 31 Jul 2003 09:10:32 EDT
      From:    Dotiran@aol.com
      Subject: Re: AP & T-Bird#2
      
      In a message dated 7/31/2003 2:04:28 AM US Eastern Standard Time,
      rshelton2@earthlink.net writes:
      
      > Sounds like AP's going to do HL5.... -R
      >
      
      I think that is premature. He did have a right of first refusal for another
      movie in his contract for Endgame, which means he will have the script
      submitted to him, but that is no guarantee he'll agree to it. He is not contracted to
      actually do the movie, only to be considered for it. According to a supposed
      "insider" on the official Highlander board, the new script [still in revision]
      has been written with Duncan in the lead. If for any number of reasons he does
      not agree to HL 5, it will be most interesting to see if they rewrite from
      scratch or dare to recast.
      
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      Date:    Thu, 31 Jul 2003 10:51:03 -0400
      From:    Sandy Fields <diamonique@comcast.net>
      Subject: Re: AP & T-Bird#2
      
      At 09:10 AM 07/31/2003 -0400, Dotiran@aol.com wrote:
      
      >If for any number of reasons he does not agree to HL 5, it will be most
      >interesting to see if they rewrite from scratch or dare to recast.
      
      Recast the role of Duncan MacLeod?!?!?!?!?
      
      Adrian Paul *is* Duncan MacLeod.
      
      Dotiran, for uttering such blasphemous words, you are ordered to go and
      wash out your mouth with soap. :-)
      
      -- Sandy
      
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      Date:    Thu, 31 Jul 2003 10:58:27 EDT
      From:    Dotiran@aol.com
      Subject: Re: AP & T-Bird#2
      
      In a message dated 7/31/2003 9:51:48 AM US Eastern Standard Time,
      diamonique@comcast.net writes:
      
      > Dotiran, for uttering such blasphemous words, you are ordered to go and
      > wash out your mouth with soap. :-)
      >
      
      I know. Heresy, isn't it? Perish the thought.
      I'll go thwap myself :)
      
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      Date:    Thu, 31 Jul 2003 11:06:31 EDT
      From:    Highlandmg@aol.com
      Subject: Re: AP & T-Bird#2
      
      Dotrain
      
      You should be banned from this list for that post. Come here TWRAP
      
      
      Mary
      
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      Date:    Thu, 31 Jul 2003 11:18:56 EDT
      From:    Dotiran@aol.com
      Subject: Re: AP & T-Bird#2
      
      In a message dated 7/31/2003 10:07:43 AM US Eastern Standard Time,
      Highlandmg@aol.com writes:
      
      > You should be banned from this list for that post. Come here TWRAP
      >
      
      ouch. but well deserved for even thinking the thought out loud. I am quite
      able to think TPTB might do such a thing, however. Adrian Paul is Duncan
      MacLeod. I would accept no other. But, in fact, the draft script is alleged to have
      the lead role for DM. What do they do if AP says no way?  Rewrite the whole
      thing for Methos? Possible. But they have already advertized............and sold
      merchandise for [blech] a movie called "The Source". They *will* make a movie.
      Of some kind. My only hope is that if Adrian Paul agrees to yet another
      Dimension horror film, that he get paid major, major, major bucks because even
      money may not be enough to repay him for losing yet another year or more of his
      life and career in this way.
      
      ------------------------------
      
      Date:    Thu, 31 Jul 2003 16:29:48 +0100
      From:    "John Mosby (Home)" <a.j.mosby@btinternet.com>
      Subject: Re: AP & T-Bird#2
      
      Just because they've released a ton of merchandise on the back of it being
      called The Source should in no way convince anyone that it would definitely
      be called that. After all, more mugs etc to be sold to completists.
      
      John
      Original Sin-ical.
      
      
      ----- Original Message -----
      From: <Dotiran@aol.com>
      To: <HIGHLA-L@LISTS.PSU.EDU>
      Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2003 4:18 PM
      Subject: Re: [HL] AP & T-Bird#2
      
      
      > In a message dated 7/31/2003 10:07:43 AM US Eastern Standard Time,
      > Highlandmg@aol.com writes:
      >
      > > You should be banned from this list for that post. Come here TWRAP
      > >
      >
      > ouch. but well deserved for even thinking the thought out loud. I am quite
      > able to think TPTB might do such a thing, however. Adrian Paul is Duncan
      > MacLeod. I would accept no other. But, in fact, the draft script is
      alleged to have
      > the lead role for DM. What do they do if AP says no way?  Rewrite the
      whole
      > thing for Methos? Possible. But they have already
      advertized............and sold
      > merchandise for [blech] a movie called "The Source". They *will* make a
      movie.
      > Of some kind. My only hope is that if Adrian Paul agrees to yet another
      > Dimension horror film, that he get paid major, major, major bucks because
      even
      > money may not be enough to repay him for losing yet another year or more
      of his
      > life and career in this way.
      
      ------------------------------
      
      Date:    Thu, 31 Jul 2003 11:23:21 -0700
      From:    "R. Shelton" <rshelton2@earthlink.net>
      Subject: Re: AP & T-Bird#2
      
      At 9:10 AM -0400 7/31/03, Dotiran@aol.com wrote:
      >I think that is premature. He did have a right of first refusal for another
      >movie in his contract for Endgame, which means he will have the script
      >submitted to him, but that is no guarantee he'll agree to it. He is
      >not contracted to
      >actually do the movie, only to be considered for it.
      
      I'm sure this is true, but he must be seriously considering it or he
      wouldn't have been quoted in the article:
      
      "Paul added that he's waiting for a script for a proposed Highlander
      5 feature film."
      
      I also heard it was written with Duncan in the lead; and not to be
      disparaging, but I don't see/haven't heard of AP doing lots of other
      stuff right now.  IMHO, it's doubtful he'll say no to the work & the
      money.
      
      I know he supposedly didn't like the way Endgame turned out, but if
      he felt *that* strongly about it he probably wouldn't even consider
      doing another HL movie, not to mention speaking out about it to the
      press.  He has to know what DP's like by now, and that no matter what
      his feelings are they'll make the movie the way *they* want it done
      in the end.
      
      Rachel
      
      --
      Rachel Shelton   *
      rshelton2@earthlink.net
           @}->->->-
      
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      Date:    Thu, 31 Jul 2003 11:29:24 -0700
      From:    "R. Shelton" <rshelton2@earthlink.net>
      Subject: Re: AP & T-Bird#2
      
      At 8:21 AM -0400 7/31/03, Highlandmg@aol.com wrote:
      >They used two t-birds on the series. There are photo's of both cars from
      >Janeens wonderful site visit.
      
      Ooops, yes, you're right - I just read on another list that this one
      belonged to Peter Davis.
      
      Rachel
      
      --
      Rachel Shelton   *
      rshelton2@earthlink.net
           @}->->->-
      
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      Date:    Thu, 31 Jul 2003 08:46:15 -1000
      From:    MacWestie <mac.westie@verizon.net>
      Subject: Re: 2 x DVD season 2
      
      Jette
      > yes, Nina, we ALL wonder why you are so obsessed with fanfic that you
      bring it into every conversation, even when the
      > conversation has nothing to do with fanfic.
      
      As I stated, the point was the poster's glaringly inconsistent attitude.
      She is fine w/ other people's stuff (an entire fictional universe) being
      used w/o permission  in fanfic--just not w/ HER stuff (a single post) being
      used w/o permission.
      
      The interesting fanfic obsession is w/ the folks who need to read it. And
      write it.  And publish it.  And who dance around exhaustively trying to
      rationalize it as OK.
      
      Nina
      mac.westie@verizon.net
      
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      Date:    Thu, 31 Jul 2003 20:37:04 +0100
      From:    "John Mosby (Home)" <a.j.mosby@btinternet.com>
      Subject: Re: AP & T-Bird#2
      
      > Ooops, yes, you're right - I just read on another list that this one
      > belonged to Peter Davis.
      >
      > Rachel
      
      
      
      Cool. Guess the Highlander Store profits are up.
      ;)
      
      John
      
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      Date:    Thu, 31 Jul 2003 19:37:14 +0000
      From:    beccaelizabeth <r.day@netcom.co.uk>
      Subject: the stupid fanfic discussion AGAIN again again
      
      MacWestie wrote:
      > As I stated, the point was the poster's glaringly inconsistent
      > attitude.  She is fine w/ other people's stuff (an entire fictional
      > universe) being used w/o permission  in fanfic--just not w/ HER
      >stuff (a single post) being used w/o permission.
      
      I was not being inconsistent.  As I said, fanfic is an entirely different
      situation- they are creating something new out of old parts.  Reposting the
      whole of someones work without alteration is a different thing entirely.
      There is also a difference between making up stuff about fictional people and
      saying stuff about real people.  Fictional people dont exist so they dont mind.
      What you do is make up stuff about real people and then criticise it.
      I DIDNT say they'd done something wrong, I pointed out to them I'd like to be
      told what they'd done.  Which IS quite different.
      
      beccaelizabeth
      http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Delphi/4212/
      
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      Date:    Thu, 31 Jul 2003 20:47:44 +0100
      From:    "John Mosby (Home)" <a.j.mosby@btinternet.com>
      Subject: Re: the stupid fanfic discussion AGAIN again again
      
      Sooooooooooooooo...previously on the HL List
      
      1) Nina reminds anyone who doesn't know that she has strong opinions on
      fanfic.
      2) Joss has said he doesn't mind  fanfic based on Buffy . Nina says she
      doesn't really believe him and even if he did, he's wrong.
      3) A post was reposted without permission to the main list. That's usually a
      no-no. Sure it wasn't intentional, but let's be careful out there.
      4) Should anyone write some fanfic about HL regulars that repost without
      permission, Nina will explode.
      
      My favourite color is blue. I think that says a lot about fanfic. Discuss.
      Or not.
      
      John
      
      
      
      
      ----- Original Message -----
      From: "beccaelizabeth" <r.day@NETCOM.CO.UK>
      To: <HIGHLA-L@LISTS.PSU.EDU>
      Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2003 8:37 PM
      Subject: [HL] the stupid fanfic discussion AGAIN again again
      
      
      > MacWestie wrote:
      > > As I stated, the point was the poster's glaringly inconsistent
      > > attitude.  She is fine w/ other people's stuff (an entire fictional
      > > universe) being used w/o permission  in fanfic--just not w/ HER
      > >stuff (a single post) being used w/o permission.
      >
      > I was not being inconsistent.  As I said, fanfic is an entirely different
      > situation- they are creating something new out of old parts.  Reposting
      the
      > whole of someones work without alteration is a different thing entirely.
      > There is also a difference between making up stuff about fictional people
      and
      > saying stuff about real people.  Fictional people dont exist so they dont
      mind.
      > What you do is make up stuff about real people and then criticise it.
      > I DIDNT say they'd done something wrong, I pointed out to them I'd like to
      be
      > told what they'd done.  Which IS quite different.
      >
      > beccaelizabeth
      > http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Delphi/4212/
      
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      Date:    Thu, 31 Jul 2003 21:01:09 +0100
      From:    Jette Goldie <jette@blueyonder.co.uk>
      Subject: Re: the stupid fanfic discussion AGAIN again again
      
      > Sooooooooooooooo...previously on the HL List
      >
      > 1) Nina reminds anyone who doesn't know that she has strong opinions on
      > fanfic.
      > 2) Joss has said he doesn't mind  fanfic based on Buffy . Nina says she
      > doesn't really believe him and even if he did, he's wrong.
      > 3) A post was reposted without permission to the main list. That's usually
      a
      > no-no. Sure it wasn't intentional, but let's be careful out there.
      > 4) Should anyone write some fanfic about HL regulars that repost without
      > permission, Nina will explode.
      >
      > My favourite color is blue. I think that says a lot about fanfic. Discuss.
      > Or not.
      >
      > John
      
      
      <sigh>  I miss the old round-robin stories we used to have
      when I first joined this list. sometimes those "wars" nearly
      did start a fire-fight!
      
      ;-)
      
      Jette
      Never bet on Star Trek trivia if your opponent speaks Klingon.
      - Ancient Kung Foole Proverb
      jette@blueyonder.co.uk
      
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      Date:    Thu, 31 Jul 2003 20:05:23 +0000
      From:    beccaelizabeth <r.day@netcom.co.uk>
      Subject: THREE versions of season 2???
      
      according to posts on the Holyground forum theres actually a third set, with
      genuine extra material on disc four, available only from some place called Best
      Buy.
      
      THREE versions???
      And why would the set from the HL store not be the one with the most stuff?
      annoying wierdness
      
      beccaelizabeth
      
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      Date:    Thu, 31 Jul 2003 14:05:52 -0600
      From:    Donna Gum <djgum@earthlink.net>
      Subject: Re: the stupid fanfic discussion AGAIN again again
      
      >My favourite color is blue. I think that says a lot about fanfic. Discuss.
      >Or not.
      >
      >John
      >
      
      And you look so well in blue.
      
      :>
      DJ Gum
      @earthlink.net
      
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      Date:    Thu, 31 Jul 2003 16:08:14 -0400
      From:    L Cameron-Norfleet <cgliser@earthlink.net>
      Subject: Re: the stupid fanfic discussion AGAIN again again
      
      Jette said:
      
      ><sigh>  I miss the old round-robin stories we used to have
      >when I first joined this list. sometimes those "wars" nearly
      >did start a fire-fight!
      
      *Sometimes*?
      
      Were you ever on the Chief Flag Waver's lists during one of those things?!
      
      Liser
      (dump a little yak poop on someone and suddenly you've crossed a
      line)(sheesh)(ah)(good times)
      --
      Lisa Cameron-Norfleet ** cgliser@earthlink.net
      --
      The difference between truth and fiction: fiction has to make sense
      --Mark Twain
      
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      Date:    Thu, 31 Jul 2003 16:13:52 -0400
      From:    RED57@aol.com
      Subject: Re: the stupid fanfic discussion (no,
               let's discuss the good bits in Chivalry)
      
      After a.j. mosby's most helpful recap of the current discussion of f*nf*c on the list, he went on to say:
      
      "My favourite color is blue. I think that says a lot about fanfic. Discuss.
      Or not."
      
      I would rather listen to Vogon poetry whilst having my head nailed to a coffee table than read anything further on f*nf*c, from any viewpoint, positive, negative, or on the fence. But that's JMO.
      
      Topic? Chivalry and Adrian's nekkid butt. Thank you, TiVo! With your 6-second instant replay button, I can make AP do a little dance in the bathtub. Lather, rinse, repeat. And yes, that's K.C. and the Sunshine Band playing in the background.
      
      Off topic, but more serious - did anyone watch the pilot of "The Peacemakers" the other night? The production values look so familiar - reminds me a lot of "Lonesome Dove" or even a Western-era flashback of HL. I couldn't read the credits, but it looks like it was filmed in the Canadian Rockies, standing in for Colorado.
      
      Ginny
      
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      Date:    Thu, 31 Jul 2003 13:21:25 -0700
      From:    Stephen Bryce <sibryce@yahoo.com>
      Subject: Re: THREE versions of season 2???
      
      > And why would the set from the HL store not be the
      > one with the most stuff?
      
      Because that would be concise, convenient, cool, and
      all the other stuff that us fans would like for our
      enormous amounts of money <g>.
      
      Steve
      
      
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      Date:    Thu, 31 Jul 2003 13:23:09 -0700
      From:    "R. Shelton" <rshelton2@earthlink.net>
      Subject: Re: the stupid fanfic discussion AGAIN again again
      
      At 8:47 PM +0100 7/31/03, John Mosby (Home) wrote:
      >Sooooooooooooooo...previously on the HL List
      >
      ><very reluctant snippage for bandwidth sake>
      >My favourite color is blue. I think that says a lot about fanfic.
      >Discuss. Or not.
      
      ROTFLMBO!
      
      Thanks John! I definitely needed that today.
      
      Is this week over yet?  ;-\
      
      Rachel (wiping away tears; and tea off keyboard)
      
      --
      Rachel Shelton   *
      rshelton2@earthlink.net
           @}->->->-
      
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      Date:    Thu, 31 Jul 2003 14:33:19 -0600
      From:    samantha copeland <samantha@carrotware.com>
      Subject: Re: AP & T-Bird#2
      
      > At 7:57 PM -0500 7/30/03, samantha copeland wrote:
      > >I saw a commercial for this the other night on AMC (during a showing of
      > >HL-I).  I had been under the impression that the T-Bird was a 1965 10th
      > >anniversary edition not a 1964, or is this like so many car things where it
      > >was made in 1964 but is a 1965 model year?  Or is this the same kind of
      > >typo like the back of the box for HL-III that said "John MacLeod"?
      >
      > Nope, not a typo - it's not the same car.  The original 1965 10th
      > Anniversary Edition T-Bird was auctioned off at The Celebration in
      > Anaheim in '98.  DP must've picked up a similar one for this
      > promotion.
      >
      
      so they *are* mixing stuff up *again*...
      
      http://www.scifi.com/scifiwire/art-main.html?2003-07/30/11.05.tv
      
      "Anchor Bay Entertainment is sponsoring a sweepstakes in which the winner will drive away with the 1964 Thunderbird that his character, Duncan MacLeod, drove on the series."
      ..
      "It's the car I had on the series, but it never seemed to work. They've made it better than it ever was when we used it on the show."
      
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      Date:    Thu, 31 Jul 2003 16:38:36 -0700
      From:    Gregory Mate <gmate@rogers.com>
      Subject: Re: AP & T-Bird#2
      
      Sandy:
      
      >Recast the role of Duncan MacLeod?!?!?!?!?
      >
      >Adrian Paul *is* Duncan MacLeod.
      
      Oh, I don't know.  Colin Farrell could do a passable job (ducking and running).
      
      ....Greg....
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      Date:    Thu, 31 Jul 2003 17:07:02 EDT
      From:    Dotiran@aol.com
      Subject: Re: THREE versions of season 2???
      
      In a message dated 7/31/2003 3:37:35 PM US Eastern Standard Time,
      r.day@netcom.co.uk writes:
      
      > why would the set from the HL store not be the one with the most stuff
      
      because according to a post by Gillian Horvath on the ATH board, "it is brand
      new material, taped just a few weeks ago, paid for by
      the "Best Buy" folks"  Note the key words here are "PAID FOR" *vbeg*
      
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      Date:    Thu, 31 Jul 2003 17:22:42 EDT
      From:    Dotiran@aol.com
      Subject: Re: the stupid fanfic discussion (no,
               let's discuss the good bits in Chivalry)
      
      In a message dated 7/31/2003 3:40:14 PM US Eastern Standard Time,
      RED57@aol.com writes:
      
      > I would rather listen to Vogon poetry whilst having my head nailed to a
      > coffee table than read anything further on f*nf*c, from any viewpoint, positive,
      > negative, or on the fence.
      
      I tend to agree. And I don't want to cause you any more pain, but I truly do
      have a wonderment/question.
      Why do people write fanfiction?
      Now I don't want to talk legalities, and certainly not morality, but the
      creative process.
      I don't "do" fanfic. I don't write it. I occasionally read it if a friend
      sends me one of hers or if it is on an email list. What puzzles me [and I *am* a
      published writer, just not of fiction, and know how much time and work it
      takes] is....given the superb skill of some of the authors, why aren't they
      writing "for real." "for credit" "for art" "for money"  I understand writing a few
      stories to have fun, to hone your craft, to relive the magic of the characters
      we love, but , but, but I'm serious. Such talent should not be "wasted" [maybe
      too strong a word...anytime you have fun and give joy to others it is not
      time wasted].
      Some of these fanfic writers are so very very very good at what they do. Why
      settle for writing something that can never be truly their own, [or published
      ]?
      
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