HIGHLA-L Digest - 11 Jul 2001 to 12 Jul 2001 - Special issue
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There are 23 messages totalling 818 lines in this issue.
Topics in this special issue:
1. "Endgame" video question. (2)
2. ATTN: All Fan Fic writers (13)
3. O/T: List mommies and Goddessnessnessnesses (2)
4. OT: Buffy not nominated (was Re: [HL] ATTN: All Fan Fic writers)
5. OT: Do not go gently.... (5)
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Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 22:13:31 EDT
From: List Kathy Avery <Lynxf19@aol.com>
Subject: Re: "Endgame" video question.
sibryce@yahoo.com writes:
> when I'd asked about the VHS tape, the guy at the
> counter said that it wasn't available, as far as he
> knew
sibryce@yahoo.com writes:
> when I'd asked about the VHS tape, the guy at the
> counter said that it wasn't available, as far as he
> knew
Dotiran@aol.com writes
I got it at our local video store on vhs the week it came out, didn't own a
dvd player.
I now own a dvd player. woooohoooo. And guess what was my first dvd to
buy... It was Highlander: Endgame. I love the Highlander guys, especially AP.
Kathy
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Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 22:28:48 -0400
From: "Carrie V. Key" <reeana1@home.com>
Subject: Re: "Endgame" video question.
----- Original Message -----
From: List Kathy Avery <Lynxf19@aol.com>
> I now own a dvd player. woooohoooo. And guess what was my first dvd to
> buy... It was Highlander: Endgame. I love the Highlander guys, especially
AP.
> Kathy
*sneaking in when she should be working!*
We've had our DVD player since December (xmas present from mom and dad!) and
for Valentines day my hubby gave me the first HL movie, the director's cut
on DVD. Not a lot of extra stuff on it, but the picture is definitely
clearer than on the video. Ofcourse my watching it a million times may have
had something to do with that:P. I rented the Endgame DVD and watched both
versions of the movie that came with. Personally my favorite part of the
entire DVD was the trivia game. Answered most on the first try:).
*sneaking back to work, before I'm forced to fire myself!*
---
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"I came, I saw, I broke a hip." Johnny Bravo
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Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 20:38:57 -0700
From: Diana DeShaun <ddeshaun@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: ATTN: All Fan Fic writers
Carmel said:
> > You'll forgive those of us who would prefer
> > to allow the actual copyright owners to decide
> whether they are or are not
> > outraged. I don't recall Bill electing you as his
> spokesperson.
> SNIP
> > Thus far he has not felt what you insist that he
> does, in
> > terms of fanfic.
Then Nina responded:
> So, YOU are privy to BP's very feelings & thoughts
> on this topic. Goodie.
And I snipped because this is the best place to say:
But you didn't respond to Carmel's reminder about the
fanfic that is sanctioned and encouraged on the
actual, official HL site. Since it's on there -
doesn't this mean we are all more or less privy to his
feelings and thoughts on this topic?
Diana DeShaun
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Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 23:59:27 EDT
From: Ashton7@aol.com
Subject: Re: ATTN: All Fan Fic writers
In a message dated 7/11/01 11:39:28 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
ddeshaun@yahoo.com writes:
<< But you didn't respond to Carmel's reminder about the
fanfic that is sanctioned and encouraged on the
actual, official HL site. Since it's on there -
doesn't this mean we are all more or less privy to his
feelings and thoughts on this topic? >>
Actually, it isn't all that unusual for the copyright holders of tv/movie
franchises to be well aware of fan fiction and some of them are even
interested in reading it. Some actors/actresses are interested in reading it
(not even necessarily about their own characters, either). The first fanzines
I ever produced were Star Wars and LucasFilms used to request two copies of
each issue along with an invoice. They paid for their copies. ;-) The creator
of Blakes 7 also used to ask fans to send him copies of their fanzines and he
often wrote letters of comment in response! I have a few from him. At least
one of the major actors in Blakes 7 commented (in writing) regarding an adult
issue of a fanzine with something along the lines of: "Have you ever tried
doing this? This could be very painful!" LOL At one of the major B7
conventions, years ago, a couple of the main actors from the show saw me
handing a fanzine novel to someone and they both requested their own copies
of the zine from me (one of them was pictured on the cover). Many actors,
over the years that I was involved in running conventions, made joking
comments about fan fiction, making it clear that whether they had read the
stories or not, they knew the kinds of things the fans were writing
(including slash... in fact, I have photos of two B7 actors "acting out" a
little on-stage kiss in response). I've even heard Highlander actors do the
same thing. Some actors/actresses do have a sense of humor about it all, at
least. In fact, one of the actresses from Highlander expressed interest in
reading some fan fiction. The creator of Robin of Sherwood has given his
"official" sanction to RoS fan fiction, I understand (although he doesn't
care for slash and I believe he asked that it not be written). Even JMS, who
was always involved in fandom, asked only that fan fiction in the Babylon 5
universe not be written until he had finished his 5 year arc. Many, many fans
honored his request. (Unfortunately, I think his request actually backfired
on him... that fandom was very "hot" a few years ago and now it has cooled
off considerably.. .at least from the signs at MediaWest and such... and I
think that is partially due to the fact that it did *not* have a rabid core
of creative people writing stories and keeping the ideas churning and
flowing.)
There are many more examples, I am sure. And the bottom line is that if any
individual fan doesn't like fan fiction they are free to ignore it. If they
don't like slash, they are free to ignore it. Whether or not TPTB choose to
ignore it, is up to TPTB and no one else. Many, many producers and writers
are pleased to have a fan base actively writing and promoting their product
and many more are just as happy to simply pretend that the fan fiction and
fan sites don't exist.
Annie CWPack
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Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 10:24:26 +0200
From: Marina Bailey <fdd-tmar@netactive.co.za>
Subject: Re: O/T: List mommies and Goddessnessnessnesses
Ginny wrote:
>I do, too. The night we all got the bad news, I had a "get well" card sitting
>on my desk that was all ready to mail except for the stamp. It had been
>sitting there for at least a couple of weeks. [snip]
>... I still regret not sending that damn card the day his address was
>posted here on the list.
I was supposed to send him some South African memorabilia and had
only collected a few things when he died. After that I thought,
if I had only just sent the few things - why had I wanted to wait
until I had enough for an entire parcel? (Well, cause postage to
the States is expensive. But hindsight is 20/20, of course.)
>I dunno, maybe we'd better have an "MIA Roll Call!" thread.
At least it would liven up the list a bit more. That couldn't hurt.
I remember a post from years ago, in which someone was watching a
talk show and they had on a married couple whose names, coincidentally,
were Kip and Marina. And the poster said s/he had a 'YKYB on the HL
list too long when' moment, because s/he said s/he immediately
thought, 'I didn't know that they were that close!'
- Marina, who is immensely warmed by that story.
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// perfect lines, but I don't hear that drum; I'm || R I C H I E >> \\
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"I'm sick of Napoleon XIV, I'm sick of Blue, I'm sick of Tentacle
Boy, and guess what? I'm sick of you!" - John to Aeryn, Farscape
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Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 18:30:02 +1000
From: Shaun Hately <drednort@alphalink.com.au>
Subject: Re: O/T: List mommies and Goddessnessnessnesses
Marina Bailey wrote:
>
> Ginny wrote:
> >I do, too. The night we all got the bad news, I had a "get well" card sitting
> >on my desk that was all ready to mail except for the stamp. It had been
> >sitting there for at least a couple of weeks. [snip]
> >... I still regret not sending that damn card the day his address was
> >posted here on the list.
>
> I was supposed to send him some South African memorabilia and had
> only collected a few things when he died. After that I thought,
> if I had only just sent the few things - why had I wanted to wait
> until I had enough for an entire parcel? (Well, cause postage to
> the States is expensive. But hindsight is 20/20, of course.)
A friend who was on the list sent me quite a few of Kip's posts - he
thought they'd appeal to my sense of humour and he was right, then
eventually I got into Highlander and joined the list. One of the early
things I saw was the announcement of Kip's death and people remembering
Kip. I didn't have the same grief as those who knew him. But it still
tore me up to realise I'd missed a chance to know a great guy.
Yours Without Wax, Dreadnought
Shaun Hately |http://www.alphalink.com.au/~drednort/thelab.html
|drednort@alphalink.com.au, drednort@au.mensa.org
|ICQ: 6898200
"You know the very powerful and the very stupid have one thing in
common. They don't alter their views to fit the facts. They alter
the facts to fit the views. Which can be uncomfortable if you happen
to be one of the facts that need altering." The Doctor - Doctor Who:
The Face of Evil
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Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 07:45:28 EDT
From: Bizarro7@aol.com
Subject: Re: ATTN: All Fan Fic writers
In a message dated 7/11/01 12:13:32 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Carmel
MacPherson writes:
<< Sigh...there is just no hope for we our little band of happy, cheerful
>fanfic writers...damned, damned and doubly damned........ >>
Well that's just *it*. I've seen the REUNION seating chart, and I am *not*
going to sully my eternal soul by sitting next to a fornication-reading,
soul-soiled damnation-fodder SLUT for three whole days! I want you and your
little minions from down-under moved *immediately* to the 'eternally damned'
section in the cheap seats!
Leah CWPack
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Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 07:57:15 EDT
From: Bizarro7@aol.com
Subject: Re: ATTN: All Fan Fic writers
(Response to Annie's many anecdotes regarding cast/crew involvement or
awareness of fanfic)
Not to forget Bill Hupe of the gigantic Knighwriter Press fanzine
distribution operation (before it was known as Knighwriter Press), who
related how he had to save up one copy of any new adult/slash zines in a
certain fandom, because once a year one of the actresses from DR WHO sent a
huge check to pay for them and have them shipped to her home. From things
I've heard since, she's not the only SF media actor/actress who is also a
fanfic consumer; just one of the only ones who buys under her own name.
Good is good.
Leah CWPack
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Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 08:19:08 EDT
From: Ashton7@aol.com
Subject: Re: ATTN: All Fan Fic writers
In a message dated 7/12/01 7:46:01 AM Eastern Daylight Time, Bizarro7@aol.com
writes:
<< Well that's just *it*. I've seen the REUNION seating chart, and I am *not*
going to sully my eternal soul by sitting next to a fornication-reading,
soul-soiled damnation-fodder SLUT for three whole days! I want you and your
little minions from down-under moved *immediately* to the 'eternally damned'
section in the cheap seats! >>
Er, Leah. Wouldn't that mean that you and I have to move, TOO? ;-)
Annie CWPack
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Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 09:20:02 -0400
From: Carmel Macpherson <Carmel@stuartfieldhouse.com>
Subject: Re: ATTN: All Fan Fic writers
HI all
Poor Leah said: <<..Well that's just *it*. I've seen the REUNION seating
chart, and I am *not*
going to sully my eternal soul by sitting next to a fornication-reading,
soul-soiled damnation-fodder SLUT for three whole days! I want you and your
little minions from down-under moved *immediately* to the 'eternally damned'
section in the cheap seats!..>>
But Leah!! that's just what Lynn did...I requested to be placed alongside a
sullied soul who was so deeply into degradation that he/she couldn't
possibly be in any way tainted by my presence - and they put me next to
YOU!!!!!!!!!!
Perhaps in between events we could light incense?
It's great being evil - I know just how EDM felt - so liberating :-)))
Yes yes yes Nina - I'm guilty of everything you are no doubt accusing me
of...the lot...totally and utterly...
"There's just one problem...I DON'T WANNA BE SAVED..."
Sigh....
Kind regards
@ Carmel Macpherson:
<<<@{}=================>>> Chief EDFWs
@ carmel@hldu.org
http://www.carmelmacpherson.com/
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Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 09:20:42 -0400
From: Carmel Macpherson <Carmel@stuartfieldhouse.com>
Subject: Re: ATTN: All Fan Fic writers
Hi all
<<..Admittedly, 2 years isn't _that_ long in terms of this list's
entire run, but it IS a hell of a long time to bear a grudge, which seems to
be what you are assuming about Carmel.And I take it that I did something so
terrible to Carmel that she's been
licking her wounds for that long? Must have been a doozy. Virtual blood
ran? Innocents fled in horror? ..>>
Hmmm...fascinating....I must admit that I don't have any particular
recollection of any particular pillaring....there have been so many :-)))
<.wg>....but I'm sure I was terribly damaged and distraught...I have been a
devoted fan of WWF ever since and watched EndGame solely to watch
Edge...those WWF fans and wrestlers are a much kinder and sensitive group of
listees and I particularly enjoy their supportive feedback on my critical
analyses and in depth discussions on each of the matches every week. This
leaves me so little time in between writing slash and going to Confession
that I only get time to zoom in at the end and offer a humble comment or
two...and I don't recall that there is any list rule about not being able to
participate if you haven't participated early on????
Ooooh - the Sumo wrestlers are on...time of my "What I
reckon...Post-Modernism and the Zen of two grown men hugging..."
Kind regards
Carmel (searching for her voodoo basket crammed with bits of paper with all
of the cruel things ever said or hinted at about her...boo hoo...)
p.s. Having said that it WAS nice of you Rottie to be so nice ...and I do
appreciate it :-))
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Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 07:18:47 -0700
From: Ith <ithildin@ondragonswing.com>
Subject: Re: ATTN: All Fan Fic writers
At 07:45 AM 07/12/2001 -0400, Bizarro7@aol.com wrote:
> I want you and your
>little minions from down-under moved *immediately* to the 'eternally damned'
>section in the cheap seats!
Hey! Wait a goshdarndang minute! Us people in the cheap seats have
standards too, you know! If you think you top of the ballroomers can just
foist your depraved undesirables off on us denizens of the low rent
district, just stop right there!
The Association for Morals and Standards in the Cheapseats -- otherwise
known as AMSIC -- will lodge protests and we will demonstrate against this
violation of our cheap seat sanctity!
So there <stomps foot>
(how many buttons and placards will we need?)
Denise * ithildin@ondragonswing.com* Ith
http://www.ondragonswing.com
Dragon's Hoard Fic Archive
http://www.ondragonswing.com/vortex
Drop by to read, or to submit a story!
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Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 17:18:14 +0100
From: "John Mosby (B)" <a.j.mosby@btinternet.com>
Subject: Re: ATTN: All Fan Fic writers
Fair points all, but because some actors do like it, it's also fair to
assume that some don't and I wouldn't put their number in a minority, nor
presume their concerns aren't as appropriate. If that means certain people
will stop watching the actors because of those opinions (as previously
expressed on-List) , I'm guessing said actors can live with that.
NOT a reason to cease writing or reading fan-fic. Just a reason to be
responsible, low-key and understand that when you write about characters you
haven't created, then others may judge your work accordingly. For better and
worse.
A question though: if an actor encourages a fan-writer to continue, the
writer will do so with added zeal. But if an actor asked the writer to stop,
would that be honoured completely or would the writer of that particular
fanfic simply continue but keep it low-key and away from the actor? Again,
not a judgement, but a genuine question as to whether a fan-fic writer would
feel as obligated?
John
----- Original Message -----
From: <Bizarro7@aol.com>
To: <HIGHLA-L@LISTS.PSU.EDU>
Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2001 12:57 PM
Subject: Re: [HL] ATTN: All Fan Fic writers
> (Response to Annie's many anecdotes regarding cast/crew involvement or
> awareness of fanfic)
>
> Not to forget Bill Hupe of the gigantic Knighwriter Press fanzine
> distribution operation (before it was known as Knighwriter Press), who
> related how he had to save up one copy of any new adult/slash zines in a
> certain fandom, because once a year one of the actresses from DR WHO sent
a
> huge check to pay for them and have them shipped to her home. From things
> I've heard since, she's not the only SF media actor/actress who is also a
> fanfic consumer; just one of the only ones who buys under her own name.
>
> Good is good.
>
> Leah CWPack
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Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 17:23:13 +0100
From: "John Mosby (B)" <a.j.mosby@btinternet.com>
Subject: Re: ATTN: All Fan Fic writers
Hey, listees, stop the Reunion grumbling. Or I'll get Lynn to sit you with
the real scum-sucking, snot-flicking, botty-burping dregs of humanity.
With the Press.
John
A picture paints a thousand words. But have you read any of Van Gogh's
poems???? *shudder*
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Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 17:34:43 +0100
From: "John Mosby (B)" <a.j.mosby@btinternet.com>
Subject: Re: ATTN: All Fan Fic writers
Other topic, I'' grant you that, but...........
NO... REPEAT NO EMMY NOMINATIONS FOR BUFFY???????????????????
I take back my previous post. Any scum-suckers can go and sit with the
Nomiantions committee. The press are angels in comparisson.
John
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Mosby (B)" <a.j.mosby@BTINTERNET.COM>
To: <HIGHLA-L@LISTS.PSU.EDU>
Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2001 5:23 PM
Subject: Re: [HL] ATTN: All Fan Fic writers
> Hey, listees, stop the Reunion grumbling. Or I'll get Lynn to sit you with
> the real scum-sucking, snot-flicking, botty-burping dregs of humanity.
>
> With the Press.
>
> John
>
> A picture paints a thousand words. But have you read any of Van Gogh's
> poems???? *shudder*
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Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 12:41:47 -0400
From: "Carrie V. Key" <reeana1@home.com>
Subject: Re: ATTN: All Fan Fic writers
----- Original Message -----
From: John Mosby (B) <a.j.mosby@BTINTERNET.COM>
>
> A question though: if an actor encourages a fan-writer to continue, the
> writer will do so with added zeal. But if an actor asked the writer to
stop,
> would that be honoured completely or would the writer of that particular
> fanfic simply continue but keep it low-key and away from the actor?
Again,
> not a judgement, but a genuine question as to whether a fan-fic writer
would
> feel as obligated?
>
> John
I know I would be hurt by the request. But personally I would probably keep
writing, just not distribute that stuff anymore. The actor/actress has put a
lot of time and effort into to giving me some form of enjoyment, and I feel
that by continuing on would show just how little I appreciate what they have
done. Same goes for TPTB of any movie, TV show, etc.
I am also aware that there those out there who probably wouldn't. The ones
that just ignore the requests and keep trudging along as if nothing ever
happened. A case in point was when a few years ago, George Lucas began
shutting down a lot of Star Wars fan sites. And it doesn't apply to just fan
fic alone. All kinds of sites were attacked and for various reasons. Some
because they didn't give George and crew any credit, others for the content
of the site. A few were given the option to continue on with their site,
just with Luca's approval as far as what stayed and what didn't on the site.
Just an example of what can happen.
---
Carrie Key
reeana1@home.com
vatazes@home.com
http://members.home.net/reeana1/my_domain.htm
http://members.home.net/vatazes/welcome.htm
http://www.angelfire.com/celeb2/hornygurlz/index.htm
LadyReeana, Ana Vatazes, Javina Jinn,
PWFC, OFEB, QJEB, Clan of the Eternally Clueless,
Proud Owner of 'Oasis Bathing Ardeth' Clone #1
"Tas! You Doorknob!" Flint Fireforge, Dragonlance
"I came, I saw, I broke a hip." Johnny Bravo
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Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 12:46:12 -0400
From: "Carrie V. Key" <reeana1@home.com>
Subject: Re: OT: Buffy not nominated (was Re: [HL] ATTN: All Fan Fic writers)
----- Original Message -----
From: John Mosby (B) <a.j.mosby@BTINTERNET.COM>
To: <HIGHLA-L@LISTS.PSU.EDU>
Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2001 12:34 PM
Subject: Re: [HL] ATTN: All Fan Fic writers
> Other topic, I'' grant you that, but...........
>
> NO... REPEAT NO EMMY NOMINATIONS FOR BUFFY???????????????????
>
> I take back my previous post. Any scum-suckers can go and sit with the
> Nomiantions committee. The press are angels in comparisson.
>
> John
Buffy not nominated??? How? It hurts that shows that actually show some
really great talent in more than area (HL falls in that category) get left
out in the rain. You have some great writers with great ideas and some
actors that can actually do more than just talk and they get pushed aside
just because they don't fall into the 'in crowd'. How many times have we
seen various Sci-Fi/Fantasy movies that were great works in their own right
just pushed aside? The same thing happens in TV land:(. Oh well. I'm done
with my griping. I need to get back to the grind.
---
Carrie Key
reeana1@home.com
vatazes@home.com
http://members.home.net/reeana1/my_domain.htm
http://members.home.net/vatazes/welcome.htm
http://www.angelfire.com/celeb2/hornygurlz/index.htm
LadyReeana, Ana Vatazes, Javina Jinn,
PWFC, OFEB, QJEB, Clan of the Eternally Clueless,
Proud Owner of 'Oasis Bathing Ardeth' Clone #1
"Tas! You Doorknob!" Flint Fireforge, Dragonlance
"I came, I saw, I broke a hip." Johnny Bravo
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Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 18:30:43 +0100
From: "John Mosby (B)" <a.j.mosby@btinternet.com>
Subject: OT: Do not go gently....
http://www.webspawner.com/users/snyg/Emmy1.JPG
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Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 18:48:46 +0100
From: Jette Goldie <jette@blueyonder.co.uk>
Subject: Re: OT: Do not go gently....
> http://www.webspawner.com/users/snyg/Emmy1.JPG
What, just cos no Buffy nomination?
Some of us might feel that to be to their credit ;-)
Jette
Glory may be fleeting, but obscurity is forever!
bosslady@scotlandmail.com
http://www.jette.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/fanfic.html
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Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 19:00:09 +0100
From: "John Mosby (B)" <a.j.mosby@btinternet.com>
Subject: Re: OT: Do not go gently....
Hmmm. Only the 'some of us' who didn't see The Body...one of the most
powerful pieces of television I've seen in ten years of reviewing?
:)
John
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jette Goldie" <jette@blueyonder.co.uk>
To: <HIGHLA-L@LISTS.PSU.EDU>
Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2001 6:48 PM
Subject: Re: [HL] OT: Do not go gently....
> > http://www.webspawner.com/users/snyg/Emmy1.JPG
>
> What, just cos no Buffy nomination?
>
> Some of us might feel that to be to their credit ;-)
>
> Jette
> Glory may be fleeting, but obscurity is forever!
> bosslady@scotlandmail.com
> http://www.jette.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/fanfic.html
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Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 19:32:44 +0100
From: Jette Goldie <jette@blueyonder.co.uk>
Subject: Re: OT: Do not go gently....
> Hmmm. Only the 'some of us' who didn't see The Body...one of the most
> powerful pieces of television I've seen in ten years of reviewing?
Saw it, didn't do anything for me.
Jette
Glory may be fleeting, but obscurity is forever!
bosslady@scotlandmail.com
http://www.jette.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/fanfic.html
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Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 19:34:37 +0100
From: "John Mosby (B)" <a.j.mosby@btinternet.com>
Subject: Re: OT: Do not go gently....
I knew there had to be one.
:)
John
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jette Goldie" <jette@blueyonder.co.uk>
To: <HIGHLA-L@LISTS.PSU.EDU>
Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2001 7:32 PM
Subject: Re: [HL] OT: Do not go gently....
> > Hmmm. Only the 'some of us' who didn't see The Body...one of the most
> > powerful pieces of television I've seen in ten years of reviewing?
>
> Saw it, didn't do anything for me.
>
>
> Jette
> Glory may be fleeting, but obscurity is forever!
> bosslady@scotlandmail.com
> http://www.jette.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/fanfic.html
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Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 20:57:08 +0200
From: Marina Bailey <fdd-tmar@netactive.co.za>
Subject: Re: ATTN: All Fan Fic writers
Me again. Sorry, John, you poor person you (having to put up
with me, I mean).
>A question though: if an actor encourages a fan-writer to continue, the
>writer will do so with added zeal. But if an actor asked the writer to stop,
>would that be honoured completely or would the writer of that particular
>fanfic simply continue but keep it low-key and away from the actor? Again,
>not a judgement, but a genuine question as to whether a fan-fic writer would
>feel as obligated?
I was just on a site yesterday that had various polls, and one of
the polls asked a very similar question. It was something to the
effect of, did slash fanfic writers care what the actors thought.
And the votes were mainly divided between 'don't know and don't
care' and something like 'don't want to know and wouldn't care
even if I did'.
Which prompted me to rethink my earlier opinion. Actually, I don't
think I would care what the actor thought about slash. I mean, if
I read somewhere that, say, Adrian hated slash, I would go right
on reading and writing it without a care in the world. If he
asked me at a con or something to desist writing it, I'd just
keep it low-key, I think. But, as I said in about a dozen <g>
previous posts, I'd never show it to him in the first place, and
hopefully he'd have more tact than to bring it up first.
- Marina.
\\ "I can read a story where Jim shows his affection ||>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> //
// with words, and one where he'd rather build a || R I C H I E >> \\
\\ bookshelf, and one where he secretly likes to ||>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> //
// wear frilly underwear." - Livia || \\
\\==fdd-tmar@netactive.co.za==Chief Flag Waver and Defender of Richie==//
"We're members of Clan Denial, not the Borg." - Misha
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