HIGHLA-L Digest - 25 Jan 2001 (#2001-47)
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There are 19 messages totalling 568 lines in this issue.
Topics of the day:
1. Greetings and Question about Endgame--SPOILER (3)
2. OT ...wendys comment (4)
3. Lisas, Lisas, everywhere... (6)
4. raven tapes
5. Greetings and Question about Endgame--SPOILER REMOVED (2)
6. Greetings and Question about Endgame
7. Greetings and Question about Endgame--NO SPOILER (2)
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Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 15:13:13 EST
From: Lance Aldridge <GPrimeCEO@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Greetings and Question about Endgame--SPOILER
In a message dated 01/25/2001 12:57:11 AM Central Standard Time,
bosslady@freeuk.com writes:
<< > I certainly hope nobody outside HL fandom actually hears you spout your
"I'm Gandhi" line of B.S., or once again media fans will be marginalized and
ridiculed as Spock-ear-wearing-to-jury-duty losers who can't tell the
difference between fantasy and reality.<
Will Lance care? >>
I consider it an honor to be compared to Ghandi.
> TPTB met with myself and peter veneem in December. they know our demands
and
> are conisdering our requests.
No, they didn't. Ginjer Buchanan checked with DPP on this.
Lance is lying.>>
Again, I've seen no proof offered to show the invalidity of my statements. I
was there, the site proves it.
> yes, but there are passions which have positive outcomes, others have neg.
Connor's is positive, if he is brought back.>>
Agreed
<<.no doubt abt that. but your passion is a bit too much. unhealthy. take that
from a psychology student, me.>>
I disagree. We should have lunch. I think once you get to know me, you'll
see passion is my forté, not insanity.
Lynn wrote:
>I have inside information telling me that DPP so fear the Conosrtium >and
economic consequences of a boycott that they deny even meeting >with us in an
effort to discredit us.
<<Right -- or maybe you made it up. It's a lie.>>
Your proof?
>To protect their identities, I decided not to reveal their names. >Call it
respect for DPP inspite of what they did to Connor.
<<Aww, go ahead. Why are you respecting the people trying to discredit you?
That certainly makes no sense -- go ahead and name names -- if you can (you
can't).>>
Out of respect, I won't.
>Actually it did rain. Unless you have a weather report to prove >otherwise,
we were there, we should know.
<>
I'm saying the police were hosing us down in an attempt to contain us.
>I have yet to see any proof of my supposed lies.
<>
The turtle is the national symbol for Save Connor. You called the wrong
hotel. You probably aren't familiar with West Hollywood.
>I have concluded
>it is much harder for some people to admit the truth.
I have concluded that you are a shameless liar.>>
I made a promise to Debbie that I wouldn't respond to these attacks, and I
won't.
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Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 15:15:16 EST
From: "Renaissance (Karen Miller)" <RENMACWOW@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Greetings and Question about Endgame--SPOILER
In a message dated Thu, 25 Jan 2001 1:14:01 PM Eastern Standard Time, Lance Aldridge <GPrimeCEO@aol.com> writes:
<<snip, snip>>
<<Lynn earlier>>
<< Of course, naming names would make it easier than ever to prove no such
meeting ever took place, nor did any such "protest" as "proved" by the false
pictures on your website. It did not rain in LA on the day of your supposed
"demonstration" -- and there is no reason anyone to have an umbrella, as they
do in some of the photos. Nor is there any HL-related reason for the
turtlehead hats, unless, of course, those are simply doctored pictures from
last year's WTO protests in Seattle (which they are). Nor does the corner
the "demonstrators" are supposedly on look anything like West Hollywood,
where DPP's offices are actually located. Nor was there any coverage, in any
media outlet, either newspaper or television, of the supposed "thousands" of
fans who demonstrated. Truth: there was no meeting, there was no
demonstration, there is no "consortium" of thousands, there is no
"convention" taking place in February in New Orleans or anywhere else.>>
Actually it did rain. Unless you have a weather report to prove otherwise,
we were there, we should know.
Me:
Well, Lance, I live in LA, and it was 68 degrees and sunny on that particular day. No Rain! In fact, we just got our first rains of the season right before Christmas. I'll see if I still have the weather reports from that day, and send them along. Did I mention that I lived in West Hollywood for 10 years, and know the street where the DPP offices are quite well.....there is nothing there resembling the background in your photos.
Anyone want to wager that the reason for these discrepancies, according to Lance, is that in fact, due to threats by renegade Duncan fans/HL fans/Anti-Connor fans or other unknown persons, the consortium actually protested at a secret site just to throw us all off the track.....
<<Lance also mentions in passing>>
I have yet to see any proof of my supposed lies. I have concluded it is much
harder for some people to admit the truth.
Me:
See above regarding weather and location
<<Lance, again:>>
I admit the photos are murky but how can you argue with their content?
Me:
They're not murky, they are not real. Let me ask you this, If somehow the WTO were to state to you that those are pictures of their protest last year, would you agree to stop pretending that the "Million (or 1) Fan March" ever happened??
Listmates......once again I apologize for getting sucked into this. Sometimes I just forget that I'm ignoring him.
~Rennie
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Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 15:14:40 EST
From: Lance Aldridge <GPrimeCEO@aol.com>
Subject: Re: OT ...wendys comment
In a message dated 01/25/2001 10:56:55 AM Central Standard Time,
kilmarnock.oradea@virginnet.co.uk writes:
<< But what would she do with it? .... come to think of it, you're
> suggesting that Lance _has_ a personality. I think that's debatable.
>
Lance has a personality. a pretty interesting one! actually, Iám so
thrilled, that iád like to meet him >>
That can be arranged. How about lunch?
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Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 22:24:58 +0200
From: Marina Bailey <tmar@fast.co.za>
Subject: Re: Lisas, Lisas, everywhere...
Liser wrote:
>>Did ANYONE get a character named after them who wasn't dippy,
>>a criminal or DEAD? <g>
>Hmmm....kinda makes you wonder what they think of us as fans, huh? <g>
I suppose they can only get away with naming characters after
fans by naming marginal characters after us, and marginal
characters on TV shows are usually... dippy, criminals or
murder victims! <g>
- Marina.
\\ "Cast your eyes on the ocean; cast your soul ||>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> //
//to the sea. When the dark night seems endless,|| R I C H I E >> \\
\\ please remember me." - Loreena McKennitt ||>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> //
//======Marina Bailey======tmar@fast.co.za======|| \\
\\============Chief Flag Waver and Defender of Richie=============//
"I'd rather be watching 'The Sentinel'... no, 'Highlander'... wait,
'Stargate SG-1' is on... Oh, hell, make it all and make it so!"
- Tarryn
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Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 15:28:42 EST
From: Dotiran@aol.com
Subject: Re: raven tapes
In a message dated 1/25/01 2:04:16 PM US Eastern Standard Time,
Lynxf19@aol.com writes:
<< where did you get the tapes?
Raven tapes are available from the official Highlander store.
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Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 22:29:11 +0200
From: Marina Bailey <tmar@fast.co.za>
Subject: Re: Greetings and Question about Endgame--SPOILER REMOVED
Rennie wrote:
>Listmates......once again I apologize for getting sucked into this.
>Sometimes I just forget that I'm ignoring him.
But ignoring him isn't half as much fun. We know he's lying but
it's kinda fun in a weird way to make him keep repeating himself
and getting more and more outrageous every time.
I'm still trying to figure out if he's baiting the list on purpose
or is just delusional, and therefore deserving only of our pity.
- Marina.
\\ "Cast your eyes on the ocean; cast your soul ||>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> //
//to the sea. When the dark night seems endless,|| R I C H I E >> \\
\\ please remember me." - Loreena McKennitt ||>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> //
//======Marina Bailey======tmar@fast.co.za======|| \\
\\============Chief Flag Waver and Defender of Richie=============//
"I'd rather be watching 'The Sentinel'... no, 'Highlander'... wait,
'Stargate SG-1' is on... Oh, hell, make it all and make it so!"
- Tarryn
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Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 21:26:09 -0000
From: Rita Ballantyne <kilmarnock.oradea@virginnet.co.uk>
Subject: Re: OT ...wendys comment
> Lance has a personality. a pretty interesting one! actually, Iám so
> thrilled, that iád like to meet him >>
>
> That can be arranged. How about lunch?
where are u Lance? usa? Iám in Brittain.
Rita
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Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 20:54:27 -0000
From: Jette Goldie <bosslady@freeuk.com>
Subject: Re: OT ...wendys comment
Rita says:
> Lance has a personality. a pretty interesting one! actually, Iám so
> thrilled, that iád like to meet him >>
>
> That can be arranged. How about lunch?
>where are u Lance? usa? Iám in Brittain.
Like you think he would show up? Want to go talk to
Chris (DocTOC) on ATH?
Jette
Glory may be fleeting, but obscurity is forever!
bosslady@scotlandmail.com
http://members.tripod.com/~bosslady/fanfic.html
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Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 16:08:03 -0500
From: Sandy Fields <diamonique@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: Greetings and Question about Endgame
At 03:29 PM 01/25/01, Marina Bailey wrote:
>I'm still trying to figure out if he's baiting the list on purpose
>or is just delusional, and therefore deserving only of our pity.
Both of the above. <g>
-- Sandy
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Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 16:44:30 -0500
From: Jan Willis <janwillis@britannica.com>
Subject: Re: Lisas, Lisas, everywhere...
Liser wrote:
>Hmmm....kinda makes you wonder what they think of us as fans, huh? <g>
and Marina added:
> I suppose they can only get away with naming characters after fans by naming
> marginal characters after us, and marginal characters on TV shows are usually... dippy,
> criminals or murder victims! <g>
1. Was Jillian (short-lived fiancee of Methos/alternate universe) in NTB named after
Gillian Horvath?
2. If yes, does it mean that writers include themselves with fans and affectionately lend
their names to marginal, dippy, criminal or soon to be deceased characters? (This
character is deceased. It is an ex-character. If it weren't nailed to its perch ...)
Or, having left after Season V, was Gillian demoted to fan status and her name given to
a dippy character AND murder victim in Season VI?
3. I think it comes down to numbers. Other than Duncan, Methos, Joe, Amanda and
Richie, what other kinds of characters are there in HL? OK, so there's a handful of noble
characters: Rebecca, Sean Burns, Darius. But the law of averages makes it more likely
that a character named after anyone, friend or foe, would be marginal, dippy, criminal, or
dead before the tag.
Jan
janwillis@britannica.com
Get your Free Email at http://www.britannica.com
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Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 18:06:27 EST
From: FVersch@aol.com
Subject: Re: OT ...wendys comment
Greetings all,
Wendy:
What part of "incomprehensible accent, Neanderthal brow ridges, slouching
shoulders and bad hair about CL" sounded like I went for CL?
Hum, except for AP and AB (Antonio Banderous (sp)) and some 2 or 3 percent of
male kind, that sounds like most of us guys.
Now, where is my club and flint fire starting kit?
~~ Peace, fred
FVersch@AOL.COM
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Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 16:24:10 -0700
From: Pat Lawson <plawson@webleyweb.com>
Subject: Re: Greetings and Question about Endgame--SPOILER
At 01:13 PM 1/25/01, Lance spewed:
>I consider it an honor to be compared to Ghandi.
You are the only one comparing yourself to Ghandi. I could as easily
compare myself to Julia Roberts and the comparison would be just as
valid. (stop laughing Sandy!)
> >Actually it did rain. Unless you have a weather report to prove >otherwise,
>we were there, we should know.
>
><>
>
>
>I'm saying the police were hosing us down in an attempt to contain us.
So your protestors, foreseeing this possibility, brought umbrellas? A
highly effective tactic to ward off high pressure hoses. <g>
>The turtle is the national symbol for Save Connor. You called the wrong
>hotel. You probably aren't familiar with West Hollywood.
Pray tell, why is the turtle the national symbol for Save Connor? Oh
wait, I know. Connor can retract his head!
Pat L.
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Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 20:22:26 -0500
From: Sandy Fields <diamonique@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: Greetings and Question about Endgame--NO SPOILER
At 06:24 PM 01/25/01, Pat Lawson to Lance:
>You are the only one comparing yourself to Ghandi. I could as easily
>compare myself to Julia Roberts and the comparison would be just as
>valid. (stop laughing Sandy!)
:::batting eyes innocently::: Who? Moi?!
I think it's a perfect comparison! Just like comparing me to Halle Berry.
People always confuse the two of us. *snerk* I'm sure you get the same
thing with people confusing you with Julia. It can be SO annoying!
But I'm sure Lance doesn't have a problem at all with people comparing him
to Ghandi, or King, or Kennedy, or Jesus. He's so humble ya know. He
probably just smiles, says thank you, and continues on in his quest for
Highlander justice.
I bow to his determination and reverence for the one true Highlander.
-- Sandy (for sale: one bridge, barely used)
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Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 20:24:48 EST
From: Highlandmg@aol.com
Subject: Re: Greetings and Question about Endgame--NO SPOILER
Hello Sandy and Pat what happened to the rest of January, Feb and March I
did not know today was April fools day
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Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 21:24:59 -0500
From: KLZ <zklee@patriot.net>
Subject: Re: Lisas, Lisas, everywhere...
> >>Did ANYONE get a character named after them who wasn't
> dippy,
> >>a criminal or DEAD? <g>
> >Hmmm....kinda makes you wonder what they think of us as
> fans, huh? <g>
>
> I suppose they can only get away with naming characters after
> fans by naming marginal characters after us, and marginal
> characters on TV shows are usually... dippy, criminals or
> murder victims! <g>
IIRC, it's done with the person's permission (Why did Linda Wyatt
die?). It saves them a lot of trouble to not have to research
the name.
Did we remember that Dr. Maier showed up on the Baywatch about
the big eel?
And yes, I think that it gives the writers a certain amount of
perverse pleasure to gently poke their friends. It also gave us
some giggles; the idea of Julie Beamer, proper, geezerly Julie,
as a dead hooker was just too funny, and we were all warm and
fuzzy inside when Richie kissed Marina.
ZK
zklee@huskynet.com
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Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 21:26:40 -0500
From: KLZ <zklee@patriot.net>
Subject: Re: Greetings and Question about Endgame--SPOILER REMOVED
>
> I'm still trying to figure out if he's baiting the list on
> purpose
> or is just delusional, and therefore deserving only of our pity.
>
:::: grabbing flagpole, spinning it around, and whapping Marina
soundly ::::
No! No! He can't have Lake Delusional! It's mine! All mine!
:::: cackling maniacally ::::
ZK
Founder, Clan Delusional (He *IS* in Raven! Is! IS!
ISISISISISIS!!!!)
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Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 21:29:45 -0500
From: KLZ <zklee@patriot.net>
Subject: Re: Lisas, Lisas, everywhere...
Jan Willis wrote:
>
>
> 1. Was Jillian (short-lived fiancee of Methos/alternate universe) in NTB named after
> Gillian Horvath?
>
Dunno; probably. Remember Amy in Indiscretions? (The Joe/Methos
one?) She was named after Dr. Amy, resident archaeologist and
friend of Gillian's. I don't have the second Watcher's
Chronicles, but didn't she have a rant on there about what Methos
did to the chronicles?
ZK
zklee@huskynet.com
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Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 21:43:18 -0500
From: Sandy Fields <diamonique@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: Lisas, Lisas, everywhere...
At 09:24 PM 01/25/01, KLZ wrote:
>IIRC, it's done with the person's permission (Why did Linda Wyatt
>die?).
Which episode was this? Is this HL or FK?
-- Sandy
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Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 21:47:22 EST
From: Highlandmg@aol.com
Subject: Re: Lisas, Lisas, everywhere...
Sandy
FK
Mary
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