HIGHLA-L Digest - 3 Sep 2006 to 4 Sep 2006 (#2006-141)
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Topics of the day:
1. :::tap:::tap:::tap::: (2)
2. Lost Colony. First from the set. (3)
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Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2006 23:28:30 -0400
From: Wendy <Immortals_Incorporated@cox.net>
Subject: Re: :::tap:::tap:::tap:::
We discuss Stargate rather than Highlander:
Marina:
> When the news first broke, some people on a forum I'm
> on were like, "Eh, so what, I haven't liked it since O'Neill left."
Yeah, I saw a lot of that too. I liked O'Neill. I liked him better
before he started phoning in his performances in about Season 5. I
wasn't sorry to see him go after Season 8- he so clearly wasn't
interested in the part anymore. I don't think his absence is what killed
the show. I think uninspired writing killed the show.
> But I liked Mitchell a lot
Browder has one of the best butts on TV. And I like the character too
<eg>
> But the show does feel a bit tired. I mean, did we really need another
> all-powerful bad guy? What's wrong with local stuff - there are still
> some system lords out there;
I have to assume that going off world every week with new locales is too
expensive to produce. Or maybe the writers just ran out of ideas.
>we've yet to meet the Furlings (I bet they are NOTHING like Ewoks!).
I think the Furlings can fly. (And they aren't furry despite the name)
> Stupid Ori. I hate them.
> Now, instead of the show seeking out new planets and learning
> about them, every episode is another exercise in depression: "The
> Ori are going to kill us in the end." Yeah, THAT'LL get people to
> keep watching!
I'm never too thrilled with all-powerful enemies. It just means that the
writers have to come up with an even more all-powerful weapon that can
kill the all-powerful bad guys. And then the next season they have to
create a new new all-powerful bad guy. (OBHLR : Horton -Kalas-Ahriman)
I'd much rather see SG1 out among the millions of possible worlds
meeting interesting people with unique cultures than watch them battle
Replicators (the Borg) or Anubis (Q) or the Ori (the Dominion).
> I second you, though: Bulgaria?!
I can't believe that they really think that the Black Sea coast can pass
for the North Carolina Outer Banks (that's assuming they are actually
filming on the coast and not in a Sofia sound stage.)
>They should come to South Africa, where there's
> beautiful scenery, lovely bright light and the occasional
> criminal who escapes from court while still wearing leg-irons...
Sound more like North Carolina than you can imagine, right down to the
leg irons <EG>
I wonder if this movie (Lost Colony) has the "lost" colonists being
killed by the Indians <poor Adrian's character> or if they have them
assimilated into the local tribes?
Wendy (I prefer to think they were eaten by a giant amorphous monster
ala "Phantoms". )
Immortals Inc.
immortals_incorporated@cox.net
"Weasels for Eternity"
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Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2006 14:05:40 +0100
From: John Mosby - Laptop <a.j.mosby@btinternet.com>
Subject: Lost Colony. First from the set.
Just passing this along. Jenni's posted it to the major sites this
morning...
Hey all!
We've heard from Adrian about his latest project, "The Lost Colony," which
is about the mysterious disappearance of the colonial settlers of Roanoke.
Check it out at Adrian's web site.
You'll also notice short updates which have been posted in the past week
concerning the premiere of "Little Chicago" and new merchandise being
available through The PEACE Fund.
For those of you in the US, have a great Labor Day. For everyone else...I
hope your week is off to a good start!
Jenni
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Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2006 09:26:59 EDT
From: Dotiran@aol.com
Subject: Re: Lost Colony. First from the set.
In a message dated 9/4/2006 9:06:23 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
a.j.mosby@btinternet.com writes:
Check it out at Adrian's web site.
In case anyone has forgotten the url
_http://www.adrianpaul.net/_ (http://www.adrianpaul.net/)
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Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2006 09:51:00 -0500
From: Ginny Gibbs <red57metoo@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: :::tap:::tap:::tap:::
Wendy wrote:
> We discuss Stargate rather than Highlander:
>
> Marina:
>
>
>
>> But the show does feel a bit tired. I mean, did we really need another
>> all-powerful bad guy? What's wrong with local stuff - there are still
>> some system lords out there;
>>
>
> I have to assume that going off world every week with new locales is too
> expensive to produce. Or maybe the writers just ran out of ideas.
>
>
>> we've yet to meet the Furlings (I bet they are NOTHING like Ewoks!).
>>
>
> I think the Furlings can fly. (And they aren't furry despite the name)
>
>
>> Stupid Ori. I hate them.
>> Now, instead of the show seeking out new planets and learning
>> about them, every episode is another exercise in depression: "The
>> Ori are going to kill us in the end." Yeah, THAT'LL get people to
>> keep watching!
>>
>
> I'm never too thrilled with all-powerful enemies. It just means that the
> writers have to come up with an even more all-powerful weapon that can
> kill the all-powerful bad guys. And then the next season they have to
> create a new new all-powerful bad guy. (OBHLR : Horton -Kalas-Ahriman)
>
> I'd much rather see SG1 out among the millions of possible worlds
> meeting interesting people with unique cultures than watch them battle
> Replicators (the Borg) or Anubis (Q) or the Ori (the Dominion).
My husband David and I were talking about this the other day after the
news broke. We're actually very disappointed that the series has been
cancelled, because we've been enjoying the Ori storylines. Without a Big
Bad to fight, Stargate devolves into self-referential comedy (hello,
Wormhole X-Treme!), not that there's anything wrong with that. They need
focus, and they found it. We were talking about why it was that the
Jaffa worlds falling so quickly after so recently gaining their
independence, and concluded that while the Jaffa leadership had been
committed to the idea of independence, some of the rank and file might
have been actually... longing for the days when they didn't have to
decide their fates for themselves. They're a people whose entire
cultural existence was based on the worship of "gods" who made all the
decisions.
Yes, they could have done something more interesting and daring by
showing the struggle that remained ahead with factionalism between
groups, and cleaning out pockets of Goa'uld resistance, but it would
have been a series of one-off episodes the last season, with no unifying
narrative thread aside from the Ba'al one. The Ba'al storyline raised
the bar a little - any one of the duplicates could return to Earth and
start messing with SGC's heads by manipulating the media -but ultimately
they went with the Big Bad device. And I'm okay with it, because it's a
BB with a twist. I see the Ori as a pretty obvious metaphor for any kind
of cultlike group that depends on groupthink to control its followers,
which is risky and likely to turn off viewers if they fail to pull it
off. So far, I'm in, especially after the recent episode where they
manage to lure an Ori ship to its destruction over the super Stargate.
And then you get an occasional episode like the one with Mitchell stuck
on the planet with the Nin-jaffa
<http://www.blogula-rasa.com/archives/001681.php>, learning martial
arts, which amused me because I caught the references to classic Star
Trek's "Amok Time." I'm willing to give 'em that, and Wormhole X-Treme,
too.
Also, I can watch Vala punch Daniel over that console over and over
again from their earliest encounter. Ow?
Sure, I miss O'Neill, but agree that RDA didn't want to work as hard as
he had been. I was actually glad Mitchell got the band back together,
and I'll be sad when they stop playing for good.
OBHL: There is always some sort of Highlander connection with
SG-1/Atlantis. You just have to look for it.
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Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2006 19:08:08 -0400
From: Wendy <Immortals_Incorporated@cox.net>
Subject: Re: Lost Colony. First from the set.
Rottie says:
> Check it out at Adrian's web site.
So I did.
Ruthlessly stolen from AP:
<<<But I can say that, on a production level, they've come up with a
fantastic looking film even though it's on a limited budget.>>
Just once I'd like to hear from AP and have him mention the extravagant
budget for a film. Hell, I'd settle for hearing about an *adequate*
budget.
<<They really want to make something good and though it's a fictional
story which has some supernatural elements involved, the actual story is
trying to be as close to the known original historical facts as
possible.>>
Supernatural elements? I guess I wasn't so far off with my ancient
amorphous monster suggestion. So ... the 117 colonists were spirited
away by bog monsters? Eater by vampires? Bewitched into drowning
themselves by the local shaman? Cursed by a rouge Hayoka? (Note the
OBHLR there)
<< I hadn't heard all the specifics before taking the role, though I
read about it online>>
This explains a lot- he picks roles without doing any research <eg>
<< (There were) these 117 colonists who left England, recruited by John
White, and amongst them was his pregnant daughter and her husband,
Annanias <that really should be spelled "Ananais"> Dare (my character).
They landed on the North Carolina coast, and because of the lack of
supplies and provisions, John White had to go back to get more supplies.
Unfortunately, because of the weather and the war with Spain, he
couldn't get back to Roanoke for years. By the time he did get back, the
colonists had all disappeared. Our version is a story of hope - lost
hope ->>
I think the Indians killed them all. The simplest explanation is usually
the right one.
<<and it really should end up being visually interesting, too.">>>
Yes...interesting. Using a Bulgarian lake to stand for the North
Carolina coast is...interesting.
More interesting is the fact that couple of British film students with
5000Pounds have made a 90 minute movie of the same name and done what
looks like a bang up job of it. http://roanokethemovie.com . Maybe
Adrian joined the wrong movie <G>
Wendy( So I assume "The Source" will be coming out soon on VHS?)(And,
yes, I meant VHS.)
Immortals Inc.
immortals_incorporated@cox.net
"Weasels for Eternity"
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