HIGHLA-L Digest - 3 Sep 2006 to 4 Sep 2006 (#2006-141)

      HIGHLA-L automatic digest system (LISTSERV@lists.psu.edu)
      Mon, 4 Sep 2006 22:00:07 -0400

      • Messages sorted by: [ date ][ thread ][ subject ][ author ]
      • Next message: HIGHLA-L automatic digest system: "HIGHLA-L Digest - 4 Sep 2006 to 6 Sep 2006 (#2006-142)"
      • Previous message: HIGHLA-L automatic digest system: "HIGHLA-L Digest - 2 Sep 2006 to 3 Sep 2006 (#2006-140)"

      --------
      There are 5 messages totalling 288 lines in this issue.
      
      Topics of the day:
      
        1. :::tap:::tap:::tap::: (2)
        2. Lost Colony. First from the set. (3)
      
      ----------------------------------------------------------------------
      
      Date:    Sun, 3 Sep 2006 23:28:30 -0400
      From:    Wendy <Immortals_Incorporated@cox.net>
      Subject: Re: :::tap:::tap:::tap:::
      
      We discuss Stargate rather than Highlander:
      
      Marina:
      > When the news first broke, some people on a forum I'm
      > on were like, "Eh, so what, I haven't liked it since O'Neill left."
      
      Yeah, I saw a lot of that too. I liked O'Neill. I liked him better
      before he started phoning in his performances in about Season 5. I
      wasn't sorry to see him go after Season 8- he so clearly wasn't
      interested in the part anymore. I don't think his absence is what killed
      the show. I think uninspired writing killed the show.
      
      > But I liked Mitchell a  lot
      
      Browder has one of the best butts on TV. And I like the character too
      <eg>
      
      > But the show does feel a bit tired. I mean, did we really need another
      > all-powerful bad guy? What's wrong with local stuff - there are still
      > some system lords out there; 
      
      I have to assume that going off world every week with new locales is too
      expensive to produce.  Or maybe the writers just ran out of ideas.  
      
      >we've yet to meet the Furlings (I bet they are NOTHING like Ewoks!). 
      
      I think the Furlings can fly. (And they aren't furry despite the name)
      
      > Stupid Ori. I hate them.
      > Now, instead of the show seeking out new planets and learning
      > about them, every episode is another exercise in depression: "The
      > Ori are going to kill us in the end." Yeah, THAT'LL get people to
      > keep watching!
      
      I'm never too thrilled with all-powerful enemies. It just means that the
      writers have to come up with an even more all-powerful weapon that can
      kill the all-powerful bad guys. And then the next season they have to
      create a new new all-powerful bad guy. (OBHLR : Horton -Kalas-Ahriman) 
      
      I'd much rather see SG1 out among the millions of possible worlds
      meeting interesting people with unique cultures than watch them battle
      Replicators (the Borg) or Anubis (Q) or the Ori (the Dominion). 
       
      >  I second you, though: Bulgaria?! 
      
      I can't believe that they really think that the Black Sea coast can pass
      for the North Carolina Outer Banks (that's assuming they are actually
      filming on the coast and not in a Sofia sound stage.)
      
      >They should come to South Africa, where there's
      > beautiful scenery, lovely bright light and the occasional
      > criminal who escapes from court while still wearing leg-irons...
      
      Sound more like North Carolina than you can imagine, right down to the
      leg irons <EG>
      
      I wonder if this movie (Lost Colony) has the "lost" colonists being
      killed by the Indians  <poor Adrian's character> or if they have them
      assimilated into the local tribes? 
      
      Wendy (I prefer to think they were eaten by a giant amorphous monster
      ala "Phantoms". )
      
      Immortals Inc.
      immortals_incorporated@cox.net
      "Weasels for Eternity" 
      
      ------------------------------
      
      Date:    Mon, 4 Sep 2006 14:05:40 +0100
      From:    John Mosby - Laptop <a.j.mosby@btinternet.com>
      Subject: Lost Colony. First from the set.
      
      Just passing this along. Jenni's posted it to the major sites this 
      morning...
      
      
      
      Hey all!
      
      We've heard from Adrian about his latest project, "The Lost Colony," which 
      is about the mysterious disappearance of the colonial settlers of Roanoke. 
      Check it out at Adrian's web site.
      
      You'll also notice short updates which have been posted in the past week 
      concerning the premiere of "Little Chicago" and new merchandise being 
      available through The PEACE Fund.
      
      For those of you in the US, have a great Labor Day. For everyone else...I 
      hope your week is off to a good start!
      
      Jenni 
      
      ------------------------------
      
      Date:    Mon, 4 Sep 2006 09:26:59 EDT
      From:    Dotiran@aol.com
      Subject: Re: Lost Colony. First from the set.
      
       
      In a message dated 9/4/2006 9:06:23 AM Eastern Daylight Time,  
      a.j.mosby@btinternet.com writes:
      
      Check it  out at Adrian's web site.
      
      
      
      
      
      In case anyone has forgotten the url 
      _http://www.adrianpaul.net/_ (http://www.adrianpaul.net/)  
      
      ------------------------------
      
      Date:    Mon, 4 Sep 2006 09:51:00 -0500
      From:    Ginny Gibbs <red57metoo@yahoo.com>
      Subject: Re: :::tap:::tap:::tap:::
      
      Wendy wrote:
      > We discuss Stargate rather than Highlander:
      >
      > Marina:
      >   
      >
      >   
      >> But the show does feel a bit tired. I mean, did we really need another
      >> all-powerful bad guy? What's wrong with local stuff - there are still
      >> some system lords out there; 
      >>     
      >
      > I have to assume that going off world every week with new locales is too
      > expensive to produce.  Or maybe the writers just ran out of ideas.  
      >
      >   
      >> we've yet to meet the Furlings (I bet they are NOTHING like Ewoks!). 
      >>     
      >
      > I think the Furlings can fly. (And they aren't furry despite the name)
      >
      >   
      >> Stupid Ori. I hate them.
      >> Now, instead of the show seeking out new planets and learning
      >> about them, every episode is another exercise in depression: "The
      >> Ori are going to kill us in the end." Yeah, THAT'LL get people to
      >> keep watching!
      >>     
      >
      > I'm never too thrilled with all-powerful enemies. It just means that the
      > writers have to come up with an even more all-powerful weapon that can
      > kill the all-powerful bad guys. And then the next season they have to
      > create a new new all-powerful bad guy. (OBHLR : Horton -Kalas-Ahriman) 
      >
      > I'd much rather see SG1 out among the millions of possible worlds
      > meeting interesting people with unique cultures than watch them battle
      > Replicators (the Borg) or Anubis (Q) or the Ori (the Dominion). 
      My husband David and I were talking about this the other day after the 
      news broke. We're actually very disappointed that the series has been 
      cancelled, because we've been enjoying the Ori storylines. Without a Big 
      Bad to fight, Stargate devolves into self-referential comedy (hello, 
      Wormhole X-Treme!), not that there's anything wrong with that. They need 
      focus, and they found it. We were talking about why it was that the 
      Jaffa worlds falling so quickly after so recently gaining their 
      independence, and concluded that while the Jaffa leadership had been 
      committed to the idea of independence, some of the rank and file might 
      have been actually... longing for the days when they didn't have to 
      decide their fates for themselves. They're a people whose entire 
      cultural existence was based on the worship of "gods" who made all the 
      decisions.
      
      Yes, they could have done something more interesting and daring by 
      showing the struggle that remained ahead with factionalism between 
      groups, and cleaning out pockets of Goa'uld resistance, but it would 
      have been a series of one-off episodes the last season, with no unifying 
      narrative thread aside from the Ba'al one. The Ba'al storyline raised 
      the bar a little - any one of the duplicates could return to Earth and 
      start messing with SGC's heads by manipulating the media -but ultimately 
      they went with the Big Bad device. And I'm okay with it, because it's a 
      BB with a twist. I see the Ori as a pretty obvious metaphor for any kind 
      of cultlike group that depends on groupthink to control its followers, 
      which is risky and likely to turn off viewers if they fail to pull it 
      off. So far, I'm in,  especially after the recent episode  where they 
      manage to lure an Ori ship to its destruction over the super Stargate.
      
      And then you get an occasional episode like the one with Mitchell stuck 
      on the planet with the Nin-jaffa 
      <http://www.blogula-rasa.com/archives/001681.php>, learning martial 
      arts, which amused me because I caught the references to classic Star 
      Trek's "Amok Time." I'm willing to give 'em that, and Wormhole X-Treme, 
      too.
      
      Also, I can watch Vala punch Daniel over that console over and over 
      again from their earliest encounter. Ow?
      
      Sure, I miss O'Neill, but agree that RDA didn't want to work as hard as 
      he had been. I was actually glad Mitchell got the band back together, 
      and I'll be sad when they stop playing for good.
      
      
      OBHL: There is always some sort of Highlander connection with 
      SG-1/Atlantis. You just have to look for it.
      
      ------------------------------
      
      Date:    Mon, 4 Sep 2006 19:08:08 -0400
      From:    Wendy <Immortals_Incorporated@cox.net>
      Subject: Re: Lost Colony. First from the set.
      
      Rottie says:
      > Check it  out at Adrian's web site.
      
      So I did.
      
      Ruthlessly stolen from AP:
      <<<But I can say that, on a production level, they've come up with a
      fantastic looking film even though it's on a limited budget.>>
      
      Just once I'd like to hear from AP and have him mention the extravagant
      budget for a film. Hell, I'd settle for hearing about an *adequate*
      budget.
      
      <<They really want to make something good and though it's a fictional
      story which has some supernatural elements involved, the actual story is
      trying to be as close to the known original historical facts as
      possible.>>
      
      Supernatural elements? I guess I wasn't so far off with my ancient
      amorphous monster suggestion. So ... the 117 colonists were spirited
      away by bog monsters? Eater by vampires? Bewitched into drowning
      themselves by the local shaman?  Cursed by a rouge Hayoka? (Note the
      OBHLR there)
      
      << I hadn't heard all the specifics before taking the role, though I
      read about it online>>
      
      This explains a lot- he picks roles without doing any research <eg>
      
      << (There were) these 117 colonists who left England, recruited by John
      White, and amongst them was his pregnant daughter and her husband,
      Annanias  <that really should be spelled "Ananais"> Dare (my character).
      They landed on the North Carolina coast, and because of the lack of
      supplies and provisions, John White had to go back to get more supplies.
      Unfortunately, because of the weather and the war with Spain, he
      couldn't get back to Roanoke for years. By the time he did get back, the
      colonists had all disappeared. Our version is a story of hope - lost
      hope ->>
      
      I think the Indians killed them all. The simplest explanation is usually
      the right one.
      
       <<and it really should end up being visually interesting, too.">>>
      
      Yes...interesting. Using a Bulgarian lake to stand for the North
      Carolina coast is...interesting. 
      
      More interesting is the fact that couple of British film students with
      5000Pounds  have made a 90 minute movie of the same name and done what
      looks like a bang up job of it. http://roanokethemovie.com . Maybe
      Adrian joined the wrong movie <G>
      
      Wendy( So I assume "The Source" will be coming out soon on VHS?)(And,
      yes, I meant VHS.)
      
      
      Immortals Inc.
      immortals_incorporated@cox.net
      "Weasels for Eternity" 
      
      ------------------------------
      
      End of HIGHLA-L Digest - 3 Sep 2006 to 4 Sep 2006 (#2006-141)
      *************************************************************
      
      --------

      • Next message: HIGHLA-L automatic digest system: "HIGHLA-L Digest - 4 Sep 2006 to 6 Sep 2006 (#2006-142)"
      • Previous message: HIGHLA-L automatic digest system: "HIGHLA-L Digest - 2 Sep 2006 to 3 Sep 2006 (#2006-140)"