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      Topics of the day:
      
        1. Season Four dvd Commentary:  Judgment Day
        2. sad news: Claire Maier (17)
      
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      Date:    Sun, 22 Aug 2004 08:53:22 -0400
      From:    kageorge <kageorge@erols.com>
      Subject: Season Four dvd Commentary:  Judgment Day
      
      Commentary w/screen captures at:
      http://www.wordsmiths.net/MacGeorge/episodes/Season4/JudgmentDay.htm
      
      COMMENTARY: Jim Byrnes says the episode was fulfilling both because he
      got a lot of work, and because the producers and writers showed a lot of
      faith in him that he would be able to carry the storyline. In it, Joe
      Dawson has to confront that, “I had really made a mess out of things in
      terms of having stepped across that line, for what I feel were valid and
      important reasons.” For Jim, as an actor, the experience was about the
      immediacy of individual moments, rather than the visual panorama of
      unusual “looks” of an entire episode, and that this episode allowed a
      lot of that, which was great.
      
      Peter says that doing an episode is actually much more difficult for the
      director than the actors who have been playing the same characters for a
      while. The director comes in with a vision and a desire to make an
      episode in his own style, but can be completely helpless, “Because
      you’re in there, just doing your own shtick.”
      
      Peter says he wanted there to be a difference between Methos and Adam,
      that Adam was a soft, gentle, nerdy character, and notes that in this
      episode “Adam” was “ever so slightly camp, as well.” Peter talks about
      Methos’ attempt to intervene during the trial, which pointed up the
      differences between Methos and Adam, and that it wouldn’t be like Methos
      to go in there guns blazing to rescue his friends, he would be more
      subtle. He gives this impassioned speech about all the knowledge that
      would be lost if you don’t let people like Joe “so with their heart.”
      Peter says it’s actually a really nice moment, then he laughs, “And it’s
      totally useless because they convict them anyway!”
      
      OUTTAKES: Gillian comments that the
      Duncan-follows-mysterious-Immortal-in-the-fog scene has one problem: Who
      would fail to recognize Methos, especially in profile?
      
      They show a take of the scene under the bridge, but in the middle a boat
      rumbles by and you can hear the tour director talking in the distance,
      so Peter breaks up.
      
      They show an outtake of Duncan and Methos meeting in the park, with
      Methos feeding pigeons.
      
      Then they have the “hiding-behind-the-trees” scene where Adrian blows a
      line once, and we see a take of Duncan pacing by the car after Joe has
      decided to let the Watchers kill him, and there’s a little more to the
      scene: “But it’s not his time!” Duncan insists at the end.
      
      Finally, there is an extended version of “Pierson for the Defense”.
      Gillian says that because of Peter’s professional commitments, they
      weren’t sure he would be available for the trial scene, so they had an
      alternative available, that Joe and Duncan would receive a package from
      Methos containing the journal and a note from Methos, to be found in
      Joe’s room. Fortunately, they were able to work out the schedule. In the
      scene, Methos reacts as he is escorted out, obviously reluctant to leave
      the journal behind.
      
      AUDIO COMMENTARY: Jim and Peter do the audio commentary, with Jim
      commenting that him getting out of the cab when he arrives in Paris was
      an inside joke because the Parisian cab drivers never let anyone ride in
      the front and Jim would always argue with them about it. He says he
      would spend about five to six weeks in Paris out of a season, which was
      a great perk of the job. He had friends there and had a great time.
      
      Peter W. says he kind of thought they overused the lots-of-smoke gag,
      and in his under-the-bridge confrontation with Duncan, where Duncan says
      he thinks Joe got snatched because someone was after him, Peter jokes,
      “It’s always about you, isn’t it?” then later, watching Methos react, he
      says, “Mutter, mutter, mutter, mutter," imitating himself. He says that
      Paris was a very easy city to film in, from an actor’s perspective. Even
      though he’d lived in London for 10 or 15 years, he’d only shot there a
      couple of times because it was so hard to film there, but that Paris had
      much more space to film in, and was very “filmic”, with great buildings
      and parks.
      
      Peter says he liked the way the director, Gerard Hameline, had dressed
      the set, like the “playroom” where Joe was held, and the slightly tilted
      camera angles and a lot of intense, really tight shots of just faces,
      weird lighting, lots of shadow, very filmic, not like tv at all. (Jim B.
      says much the same thing, but also notes that the houses were very cold.)
      
      During “Adam’s” speech, PW says he thinks you could see that Methos was
      acting the role, playing up the nerdiness of the character, to be who
      the other Watchers would expect him to be, and he tried to incorporate a
      little gentle comedy. (Peter, chuckling: “Can you imagine that? The man
      *knew* Methos!”) He says that while Methos recognized the gravity of the
      situation, he just couldn’t resist playing it up and enjoying it a
      little because he knew Joe and Duncan knew the real story. But of course
      it was completely futile.
      
      Peter liked the scene between Methos and Duncan by the car, where Duncan
      is (unsuccessfully) rationalizing to himself about not going back for
      Joe. He says the qualities of the characters are made very clear, just
      by the way they are positioned, and the way they relate to each other
      tells you a lot about the two guys. Methos is, like, “Stuff happens,”
      and MacLeod is frantically wrestling with it, about what he is supposed
      to do, but Methos just figures what will happen will happen. Peter also
      thinks Methos knows he will eventually get dragged into it, and he is
      also powerless to prevent it so his internal laughter is not just at
      MacLeod, it is at himself.
      
      Jim notes that, unlike most directors, Hameline worked from a
      storyboard, so evidently the director had a hand in the whole “look” of
      the spaces, including the playroom, the graininess of the trial scenes,
      and the off-kilter camera angles.
      
      Throughout the episode, Jim mostly talks about the scenery, where things
      were filmed and the ‘looks’ that were achieved. He also talks about the
      actor who played Shapiro, a Mohawk Indian with a Parisian wife who had
      lived in Paris for quite awhile. Jim also mentioned the other
      “background” actors, who knew him from when “Wiseguy” had been broadcast
      in Paris, and who all treated him very well.
      
      Graham McTavish was the actor who played the obnoxious Watcher minion of
      Jack Shapiro. Jim talks about what a good guy he was and how much they
      enjoyed hanging out together.
      
      During the Kalas flashbacks, Jim mentions he hadn’t really spent much
      time with David Roth, just had a drink or two with him in the hotel bar.
      Jim says that at one time Roth was touted as the “next big thing” in
      British film but “it never panned out” and that there was a kind of
      bitterness about him.
      
      In the last scene, Jim says that when they shot it, they really didn’t
      know whether Joe Dawson was going to live or die until he got the next
      script and found he was in it.
      
      THE EPISODE: In Seacouver, Joe takes a call and is told that Duncan has
      been killed. When he goes over to do a final report, he sees Duncan
      running up the Quay, he’s mystified, but then a car drives up and some
      guys force Joe into a car as Duncan futilely chases after.
      
      Duncan meets Methos under the bridge, asking him to find out what’s
      going on thru the Watchers, fearful that it is another Immortal out to
      get at him through Joe. Methos declines, afraid of discovery, but Duncan
      reminds him that he owes Joe a favor for keeping his identity secret,
      and eventually Duncan persuades him, even as Methos mutters about having
      successfully lost his conscience, only to have it regained.
      
      Next we see a young man snooping around the barge, spotted by another
      young man, a watcher, who watches him suspiciously.
      
      Duncan and Methos meet surreptitiously in a park, with Methos feeding
      some pigeons while Duncan casually comes by and stops to tie his shoes.
      Methos tells him Joe was taken by the Watchers, and that it’s rumored
      he’s being put on trial for treason. Duncan tracks down the previous
      Watcher headquarters, only to learn it has been vacated.
      
      In the meantime, Joe – who had been locked in what had been a children’s
      playroom of an old chateau, full of toys and childish décor – is taken
      to some subterranean space where he is accused of betraying his oath, of
      “consorting with an Immortal.” Jack Shapiro, the head of the Watcher
      Tribunal, tells Joe that in the previous three years they had lost 80
      agents, as compared to 2 in the previous 50 years. The implication is
      that MacLeod was responsible, either directly or indirectly, for those
      deaths.
      
      We see Duncan sneaking onto the grounds of the chateau and he feels
      another Immortal. It’s Methos, of course, (Methos: “We’ve got to stop
      meeting like this, people will talk!”) Methos reluctantly admits he’s
      there because he owes Joe, and the two work together to get in. That
      night, Methos drives to the gate, distracting the guard with his
      insistence that he had “urgent” research to do about Methos, so that
      Duncan can sneak over the wall.
      
      Duncan sneaks into Joe’s room (Jim notes that he is keeping his “mind
      alive” by reading a copy of “Mary Poppins”.), instructing him on how he
      was going to get Joe out, but Joe belatedly points to the surveillance
      cameras that were filming everything, and the guards arrive. They are
      both taken to the basement, and now Joe’s situation is notably worse for
      having Duncan try to rescue him. Jack talks about the Watcher’s rules,
      but Duncan insists that Joe had no choice, that it was Duncan who found
      the Watchers and forced the revelation of their existence.
      
      As Shapiro them accuses Joe of sharing information and colluding with
      Duncan, and we get a series of flashbacks showing their first meeting,
      along with who Horton was and what he was doing, which was why Duncan
      found out about the Watchers in the first place.
      
      But Jack Shapiro accuses Joe of considering MacLeod more important than
      his oath, of helping MacLeod escape Killian, then using Duncan to kill
      the Immortal who murdered his lady friend, and sharing information about
      Quentin Barnes as well as the Immortal from The Vampire. In a few moves,
      Duncan suddenly disarms the guards and holds a gun on Shapiro. He
      insists that what Joe did was necessary to save innocent lives, then
      gives the guns back.
      
      But the Tribunal guys are unimpressed and announce that Joe is a traitor
      and will be executed by a bullet to the head at dawn. That gets Duncan
      fairly pissed off, and he insists that they can’t possibly understand
      the pressures Joe had been under, and if they are going to pass judgment
      on him, it at least ought to be done by a jury of his peers – Watchers
      who had worked in the field.
      
      They agree to provide a jury, but only if MacLeod is subject to the same
      punishment as Joe, if the verdict is guilty – death. Over Joe’s protest,
      MacLeod agrees.
      
      Back in the playroom, Duncan pulls out the microphones and cameras as
      Joe mulls over his fate, insisting that he doesn’t want to bring Mac
      down with him. MacLeod says if they get out of it, they get out of it
      together.
      
      Now we see again see the two men who had been hanging around the barge
      earlier. The Watcher is being followed, and the first guy identifies
      himself as a Watcher, as well, showing the tattoo on his wrist,
      identifying himself as Jacob Galati. The other young man introduces
      himself as David Shapiro, and Galati coldly stabs him to death before
      wiping the (fake) tattoo off.
      
      The next morning, the Watcher Regional Coordinators all gather in the
      basement for the trial, and once again we go through flashbacks as all
      the rather damning interaction between MacLeod and Joe is described.
      
      Then the young researcher “Adam Pierson” arrives, and shows them a
      secret journal of one of Methos’ Watchers, arguing that the Watcher and
      Methos had become friends, but he couldn’t report what he had learned
      because of their rules. Adam argues that they should allow friendship to
      thrive, because they would learn so much more. But his argument fails
      and he is summarily escorted away.
      
      Then the whole business with Horton is revisited, and Duncan argues that
      if he and Joe hadn’t worked together, Kalas would have revealed the
      existence of both the Watchers and the Immortals to the world. When
      Shapiro says all that is relevant is that Joe trashed his oath.
      
      That sets off Duncan on a tirade about spending his entire existence
      fighting other Immortals, surviving by killing others who have no value
      for life, and if the Watchers make their rules more important than a
      human life, they become like the ones he has fought. At that point, Jack
      finds out that his son (the Watcher who was killed by Galati) has been
      found dead. He is stunned and grief-struck and as far as he is concerned
      the trial is over, and he blames Joe for his son’s death. The jury finds
      Joe guilty, but as Duncan and Joe are taken back to the playroom, Duncan
      takes both guards out, but Joe refuses to escape with him.
      
      Duncan is amazed, but Joe says he knew the risks when he broke the
      rules, that he’s guilty and that he believes in the oath he had taken.
      Duncan is desperate, and when Joe won’t listen to reason, he tries to
      force him, but Joe won’t hear of it. Duncan leaves, looking stunned.
      
      We later see him pacing on the street, with Methos leaning up against a
      car nearby. Duncan is cursing Joe for “going down without a word,” and
      gesticulating as he argues against the impracticality of Duncan staying
      and dying with him. Methos calmly agrees, and suggests that Duncan take
      a vacation. But Duncan still paces and rails about how they did their
      best, and if Joe wants to be a martyr then let him, that there’s nothing
      else to do, that Duncan is not going back for him, (Methos: “No, it
      wouldn’t be sensible.”) but it is clear that Duncan has not convinced
      himself with his own arguments.
      
      At or dawn, Joe is led out to be shot. Jack tells Joe it’s not his
      choice, that it’s a question of principle. “Principle’s not going to
      give the order to shoot, Jack,” Joe replies. “You are.” But Jack can’t
      bring himself to do it, or even to watch, so he leaves, and his minion
      seems to take pleasure in preparing to shoot Joe. (Joe: “Alright,
      Charlie. Move your ass. I’ve got an appointment to keep!”) Joe crosses
      himself, but before the trigger is pulled, Jacob Galati, standing on the
      wall, mows them all down with an automatic rifle, including Joe.
      
      Duncan drives up to the chateau and finds the guard at the gate dead,
      then feels an Immortal as a motorcycle goes speeding by. Duncan finds
      the scene of all the dead Watchers, and feels for Joe’s pulse, calling
      his name.
      
      MY COMMENTS: You know, I liked the idea of this episode, but I wasn’t
      sold on the execution of it. It was chock full of clips from previous
      episodes, which always makes me feel a little cheated since it cuts way
      back on the original material. I liked seeing lots of Joe, and the
      scenes between Duncan and Methos each had a little ‘oomph’ to it, a kind
      of snapping energy that made them sharp and memorable.
      
      I loved the notion of Adam Pierson giving an impassioned speech about a
      secret journal of one of Methos’ watchers, and I caught the irony and
      humor of it, but it seemed to cross a little too far over into camp for
      the gravity of the moment (“I say, let friendship thrive!”) and seemed
      too much like a gimmick, especially when it made no difference at all.
      
      The Watcher hierarchy came across as mean-spirited and paranoid
      (although with them dying like flies, they apparently had some reason
      for paranoia). Jack Shapiro, in particular, was annoyingly
      self-righteous, even before his own son turned up murdered. I think it
      would have played better, and Joe's willing martyrdom would have been
      more believable, if we had seen a couple of more sympathetic Watchers as
      well as a more reasoned argument of the Watcher's case against Joe that
      at least acknowledged good intentions.
      
      Certainly, they managed to keep the tension going all the way to the
      end, although it was a little bewildering when Duncan said he would
      accept the same fate as Joe if they gave him a trial of his peers, but
      then leaves him to his martyrdom. It seemed like breaking faith, but
      however much weight you give promises, for Duncan to willingly die,
      especially at the hands of the Watchers, especially for something he
      feels no guilt for, especially after he tried so hard to get Joe to
      leave with him… it may have felt uncharacteristic, but to have done
      otherwise would have been monumentally stupid, and Duncan’s not stupid.
      
      So, while I liked the plot, and I liked the many of the original scenes,
      my enjoyment was frustrated by all the flashbacks and by what was for me
      an overuse of all the “filmic” devices that both Peter and Jim admired.
      
      MacGeorge
      All episode commentaries at:
      http://www.wordsmiths.net/MacGeorge/episodes/indexframeset.htm
      
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      Date:    Sun, 22 Aug 2004 09:04:25 -0400
      From:    virginia foster <vfoster_042@bellsouth.net>
      Subject: sad news: Claire Maier
      
      I'm sorry to be the bringer of bad news but while many of the new folks
      here never knew Claire, I know lots of the "old-timers" did.  I had not
      talked to Claire in years, despite living in the same city and did not
      even know she was in the hospital.  :(
      
      Permission is given from Monique to pass this along to other Highlander
      forums. Especially ones that Claire had been involved with.
      
      Thanks,
      virginia
      
      
      
      Claire Maier passed away Friday morning August 20th after a week-long
      hospital stay.  Cause of death was renal failure.  She was 48 years old.  Her
      remains will be cremated in accordance to her wishes.
      
      An informal memorial service will be held within the next ten days or so on
      the campus of Emory University in Atlanta. If you wish to attend, please get
      in touch with Monique Alexander at 404-289-8162 or Monique6ft@aol.com
      for the exact date & time.
      
      vfoster_042@bellsouth.net
      ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
      "I see in your eyes the same fear that would take the heart of me.
      A day may come when the courage of men fail,
      when we forsake our friends and break all the bonds of fellowship,
      but it is not this day.  This day we fight!"   Aragorn, Return of the King
      
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      Date:    Sun, 22 Aug 2004 09:27:01 -0400
      From:    Sandy Fields <diamonique@comcast.net>
      Subject: Re: sad news: Claire Maier
      
      Oh my.  This is sad news indeed.  Claire was a much loved and very
      important member of our HL family.
      
      -- Sandy
      
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      Date:    Sun, 22 Aug 2004 14:48:51 +0100
      From:    "a.j.mosby" <a.j.mosby@btinternet.com>
      Subject: Re: sad news: Claire Maier
      
      Very sad news.
      
      But in some distant reality, I have no doubt Fitz and Connor are already
      exchanging anecdotes with her.  ;)
      
      She will be missed.
      John
      
      ----- Original Message -----
      From: "Sandy Fields" <diamonique@COMCAST.NET>
      To: <HIGHLA-L@LISTS.PSU.EDU>
      Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2004 2:27 PM
      Subject: Re: [HL] sad news: Claire Maier
      
      
      > Oh my.  This is sad news indeed.  Claire was a much loved and very
      > important member of our HL family.
      >
      > -- Sandy
      
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      Date:    Sun, 22 Aug 2004 09:49:46 EDT
      From:    Degruy@aol.com
      Subject: Re: sad news: Claire Maier
      
      I had not seen her in years myself even though I live in the same  town.
      
      We never did get along that well but she was a fan to be reckoned  with.
      
      Edward  deGruy
      Student of  Humanity
      @}----------
      
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      Date:    Sun, 22 Aug 2004 09:58:01 EDT
      From:    Billie Lee Williams <McCelt2003@aol.com>
      Subject: Re: sad news: Claire Maier
      
      I did not know Claire myself, but the passing of any Listmember, on any List,
      feels like the loss of a family member, doesn't it?
      
      There have been losses on several lists (Forever Knight, for example) that I
      am on the past couple of years, this year included.
      
      We are not immortal like Duncan--but in other ways (our kids, families, and
      depending on our personal belief systems, don't wanna go their and rile anybody
      up <ggggg>).
      
      My condolences to anyone who was friends with Claire and to her family.  I
      shall hold good thoughts for all.
      
      Forever Peace,
      Billie-Lee
      mccelt2003@aol.com
      "Oh Master grant that I may never seek so much to be consoled as to console."
      Saint Francis
      
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      Date:    Sun, 22 Aug 2004 09:58:47 -0400
      From:    Dotiran@aol.com
      Subject: Re: sad news: Claire Maier
      
      I am very sorry to hear of this. I had known she was sick and had written her last year. Formidable memory she had. And very feisty. Thank you for letting us know.
      
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      Date:    Sun, 22 Aug 2004 16:07:10 +0200
      From:    T'Mar <tmar@sifl.iid.co.za>
      Subject: Re: sad news: Claire Maier
      
      This is truly sad. I did not have much to do with Claire, but always
      looked forward to her sharp, interesting, informative posts. I had
      been wondering where she was for a few months.
      
      Claire, you will be missed. Say hi to Kip for us.
      
      - Marina.
      
      \\ "I think somewhere on the road to reality, ||>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  //
      //    you took a left turn." - Nowhere Man    || R I C H I E >>  \\
      \\=============tmar@sifl.iid.co.za============||>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  //
      //===Chief Flag Waver and Defender of Richie==||                 \\
      
      "What about the fact they thought we were gay?"
      "Adds mystery." - Wesley and Angel; "Expecting" (Angel)
      
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      Date:    Sun, 22 Aug 2004 10:26:06 EDT
      From:    Highlandmg@aol.com
      Subject: Re: sad news: Claire Maier
      
      Claire ohh wow we were talking about her last week on Alt bb. I am so sorry
      to hear this. Meeting claire on line and in person was a privilege. She was
      indeed a special person.
      
      Mary
      
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      Date:    Sun, 22 Aug 2004 10:27:42 -0500
      From:    Ginny <RED57@aol.com>
      Subject: Re: sad news: Claire Maier
      
      virginia foster wrote on 8/22/2004, 8:04 AM:
      
       > I'm sorry to be the bringer of bad news but while many of the new folks
       > here never knew Claire, I know lots of the "old-timers" did.  I had not
       > talked to Claire in years, despite living in the same city and did not
       > even know she was in the hospital.  :(
       >
       > Permission is given from Monique to pass this along to other Highlander
       > forums. Especially ones that Claire had been involved with.
       >
       > Thanks,
       > virginia
      
      Claire ran the trivia quiz chats on AOL for a long time; no one else had
      her memory for detail and I think she did a lot of it without notes. She
      was also a very downright and knowledgeable person who was serious about
      her Highlander fan activities. Even though it was very difficult for
      her, she managed to attend cons and fan events in distant cities - she
      was at Gathering I in Denver and also at the "Highlander Merchandise
      Garage Sale" in the far southwest suburbs of Chicago. There may have
      been others she attended, but those were the ones that I also attended.
      I was glad to get the chance to meet her face to face.
      
      This is not only a sad loss to Highlander fandom, but to science as
      well, because her work in her chosen field has been cut short.
      
      It would be nice to be able to attend a memorial, but I have a feeling
      she won't be there: she'll be off trying to rein in Kip and asking
      Werner Stocker about long-forgotten details of his preparation to play
      Darius.
      
      She will be missed.
      
      --
      Ginny
      RED57@aol.com
      Fresh out of .sig lines
      
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      Date:    Sun, 22 Aug 2004 11:54:55 -0400
      From:    Wendy Tillis <immortals_incorporated@cox.net>
      Subject: Re: sad news: Claire Maier
      
      Oh dear. How incredibly sad.  I've thought of Claire often over the years and wondered where and how she was.
      
      Wendy(Somewhere Kip and Claire are duct-taping couch pillows together in preparation of mounting a spirited defense of the realm.)
      
      
      
      Immortals Inc.
      immortals_incorporated@cox.net
      "Weasels for Eternity"
      
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      Date:    Sun, 22 Aug 2004 18:15:46 GMT
      From:    "toujoursenbluejeans@juno.com" <toujoursenbluejeans@juno.com>
      Subject: Re: sad news: Claire Maier
      
      I remember Claire from when I first joined Highla-L.......having asked the inevitable newbie Kalas throat question, Claire replied in such a way that I was convinced that she was one of TPTB.
      
      I never knew Kip at all , but heard so many stories I feel like I knew him a little......I can imagine Kip and Claire duct taping pillows.
      
      My sympathy to all her family and friends.
      
      Dawn
      
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      Date:    Sun, 22 Aug 2004 09:27:37 -1000
      From:    MacWestie <mac.westie@verizon.net>
      Subject: Re: sad news: Claire Maier
      
      Agree w/ them or not, her posts were always must-reads.
      
      Nina
      mac.westie@verizon.net
      
      
      ----- Original Message -----
      From: "virginia foster" <vfoster_042@bellsouth.net>
      To: <HIGHLA-L@LISTS.PSU.EDU>
      Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2004 3:04 AM
      Subject: sad news: Claire Maier
      
      
      > I'm sorry to be the bringer of bad news but while many of the new folks
      > here never knew Claire, I know lots of the "old-timers" did.  I had not
      > talked to Claire in years, despite living in the same city and did not
      > even know she was in the hospital.  :(
      >
      > Permission is given from Monique to pass this along to other Highlander
      > forums. Especially ones that Claire had been involved with.
      >
      > Thanks,
      > virginia
      >
      >
      >
      > Claire Maier passed away Friday morning August 20th after a week-long
      > hospital stay.  Cause of death was renal failure.  She was 48 years old.
      Her
      > remains will be cremated in accordance to her wishes.
      >
      > An informal memorial service will be held within the next ten days or so
      on
      > the campus of Emory University in Atlanta. If you wish to attend, please
      get
      > in touch with Monique Alexander at 404-289-8162 or Monique6ft@aol.com
      > for the exact date & time.
      >
      > vfoster_042@bellsouth.net
      > --------------------------------------------------------------------------
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      > "I see in your eyes the same fear that would take the heart of me.
      > A day may come when the courage of men fail,
      > when we forsake our friends and break all the bonds of fellowship,
      > but it is not this day.  This day we fight!"   Aragorn, Return of the King
      >
      
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      Date:    Sun, 22 Aug 2004 15:30:36 -0400
      From:    Julie Beamer <jbeamer@infionline.net>
      Subject: Re: sad news: Claire Maier
      
      I was fortunate enough to meet Claire at an early HL convention.  If
      anyone has an address where condolences can be sent to her family,
      please let me know.
      
      Let us have a moment of silence on the Geezer Porch for our dear friend
      Claire.
      
      Julie
      Founding Geezer
      --
      jbeamer@infionline.net
      
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      Date:    Sun, 22 Aug 2004 12:56:38 -0700
      From:    "R. Shelton" <rshelton2@earthlink.net>
      Subject: Re: sad news: Claire Maier
      
      At 11:54 AM -0400 8/22/04, Wendy Tillis wrote:
      >Oh dear. How incredibly sad.  I've thought of Claire often over the
      >years and wondered where and how she was.
      
      Me too.  :(   Claire was one of the first ones to email me privately
      with assistance with all the 'list 'net' stuff when I first joined
      this list and was learning to use my computer. She will be missed &
      my sympathies go out to her family & RL friends.
      
      >Wendy(Somewhere Kip and Claire are duct-taping couch pillows
      >together in preparation of mounting a spirited defense of the realm.)
      
      No doubt about it, And as John mentioned, she's probably already
      exchanging tall tales & drinking ale with Fitz & Connor.   :)
      
      Rachel
      --
      Rachel Shelton
      rshelton2@earthlink.net
           @}->->->-
      
      The universe is full of magical things patiently waiting for our wits
      to grow sharper. - Eden Phillpotts
      
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      Date:    Sun, 22 Aug 2004 16:21:34 -0700
      From:    Danni Bfuss <bfuss@cablerocket.com>
      Subject: Re: sad news: Claire Maier
      
      I don't know what to say.................. She was one of the first
      people to help me w/ the things on "list". She was one of the first ones
      to email me when Les was found dead on 28 Dec 99.
      Deity, I am at a lose for words.
      
      I hope Kip and Claire are getting all the pillows and duct ready for the
      best defense of Summerland.
       As she wills, so mote it be.
      
      Danni
      
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      Date:    Sun, 22 Aug 2004 19:48:32 -0400
      From:    Sandy Fields <diamonique@comcast.net>
      Subject: Re: sad news: Claire Maier
      
      I've been gone all day, and I just read through all the posts in
      remembrance of Claire.  I can think of nothing more fitting.  I'm sure
      she'd be pleased.
      
      Waving a blue feather for Claire... one of the original DFWs.
      
      -- Sandy
      
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      Date:    Sun, 22 Aug 2004 19:35:08 -0500
      From:    Kamil <kamilaa@gmail.com>
      Subject: Re: sad news: Claire Maier
      
      On Sun, 22 Aug 2004 19:48:32 -0400, Sandy Fields <diamonique@comcast.net> wrote:
      > I've been gone all day, and I just read through all the posts in
      > remembrance of Claire.  I can think of nothing more fitting.  I'm sure
      > she'd be pleased.
      
      I'm sure she would be. Like so many others, I remember Claire as one
      of the first people to make me welcome in Highlander fandom.
      
      She'll be missed by many people.
      
      Kamil
      
      > Waving a blue feather for Claire... one of the original DFWs.
      
      --
      
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