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      Topics of the day:
      
        1. Bi-Monthly Reminder
        2. Achangel
        3. Sins of the Father
        4. Archangel - yet again
      
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      Date:    Mon, 15 Sep 2003 23:50:01 -0500
      From:    Debra Douglass <ddoug@catrio.org>
      Subject: Bi-Monthly Reminder
      
                (updated 8/1/00)    HIGHLA-L Bi-Monthly Reminders
      
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      Date:    Tue, 16 Sep 2003 07:04:26 +0200
      From:    T'Mar <tmar@sifl.iid.co.za>
      Subject: Re: Achangel
      
      >One movie was enough - but no, they had to make 3, plus
      >the animated, plus the computer game(s).
      
      Oh. Actually, I agree with that. The first one tells the
      story quite sufficiently.
      
      The kids I teach all complained after Reloaded, "I didn't like
      the ending." I always reply, "That's because it doesn't end,
      it just *stops*." <g>
      
      >Actually even the first movie - the story could have been
      >told in half the time..... you could practically see them
      >looking for ways to stretch it out.
      
      I didn't mind that - so we had some extra shootouts and
      kung fu scenes. You can *never* have too much kung fu in
      a movie! :)
      
      >And yes, I *did* understand it - the first comment you usually
      >get from folks when you say "didn't care for it" is "that's
      >because you didn't understand it - it's *deep*"  - no, it's not
      >it's very basic, very simplistic philosophy, not hard to understand
      >at all.
      
      I actually do the film with Grade 7 kids for film study, and there
      are lots of nice cinematic devices to watch for, and literary
      references to explain, but you're right... it's not hard to
      understand. But there IS a lot in it visually and referentially,
      I felt.
      
      - Marina.
      
      \\          "I'm naming all the stars."         ||>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  //
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      Date:    Tue, 16 Sep 2003 09:18:37 -0400
      From:    Wendy Tillis <jjswbt@cox.net>
      Subject: Sins of the Father
      
      Of all the spin-girls we saw, I actually liked Alex Raven the best (not that I loved her.)(I just liked her best). She was old enough to have had interesting flashbacks. She looked capable of kicking ass if necessary. She looked as good as, or better than,  Duncan ever did in a wet t-shirt. (How funny is it that "Spike" - a network for *men* fuzzed out the wet Quickening shots?) Maybe I'm just easier on her since she was first and my tolerance faded as the season went on.
      
      I liked the fact that little Polish Max had an English accent. ..and that he grew into a distinguished British actor with a bad Polish accent.  (Why do old British actors so often end up playing Eastern Europeans or Nazis?)
      
      Alex's "Mercy, my ass" seemed an unlikely statement given the time period but, my, didn't she look nice in her underwear? (And wasn't that Immortal pitiful?)(Begging for mercy after killing Alex's lover?)
      
      Duncan looked nice in this one- the beige wardrobe hadn't become annoying yet.  It was nice to see him out in the sunshine without a trenchcoat at last. Of course the ugly green Rover was just that...ugly. And the very short hair isn't becoming (not on Duncan and not on Adrian)
      
      Wendy(Was Alex the only spin-girl Duncan didn't bed?)(Or did he when we weren't looking?)
      
      
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      Date:    Tue, 16 Sep 2003 12:46:22 -0500
      From:    "Spear, Kathy--SJA" <Kathy.Spear@hood.army.mil>
      Subject: Re: Archangel - yet again
      
      did not like the show down between duncan & richie    made duncan seem crazy
      and the mentor killing his student??
      
      
      -----Original Message-----
      From: Sandy Fields [mailto:diamonique@COMCAST.NET]
      Sent: Friday, September 12, 2003 2:03 PM
      To: HIGHLA-L@LISTS.PSU.EDU
      Subject: Re: Archangel - yet again
      
      
      At 02:24 PM 09/12/2003 -0400, Wendy Tillis wrote:
      >If I were king <eg> ...er...the writer, and I knew that  1)  there might
      >not be a Season 6 and 2)  that TPTB wanted to remove Richie whether or not
      >there was a Season 6, I would have spent Season 5 building up to a Duncan
      >/Richie showdown.
      
      I love this!  This would have made for some really good heart-wrenching HL
      action.
      
      -- Sandy (Why didn't Kirk, Spock, et al know about the big bad alien thing
      that attacked Earth?)
      
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