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      Topics of the day:
      
        1. Ru Paul [Was Re: Poll: Ritchie: Immie wannabe & childish,              or
           whiney voiced punk] (2)
        2. Ru Paul [Was Re: Poll: Ritchie: Immie wannabe.. (2)
        3. Seaon 3 DVDs (7)
        4. Ru Paul [Was Re: Poll: Ritchie: Immie wannabe & childish, or whiney voiced
           punk]
        5. See ya. (10)
        6. Seaon 3 DVDs (Commentary Spoiler)
        7. A warning  ( was Re: See ya.)
      
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      Date:    Wed, 27 Aug 2003 16:13:08 -1000
      From:    MacWestie <mac.westie@verizon.net>
      Subject: Re: Ru Paul [Was Re: Poll: Ritchie: Immie wannabe & childish,
               or whiney voiced punk]
      
      Shawn--
      >>>Clearly you believe the fact you are a lawyer is "unfortunate" for me.
      Those were your words, and they constitute a threat.>>>
      
      I don't bother w/ anything as pansy-assed as a "threat."  Striking w/o
      warning is much more fun.
      
      
      > Wendy(It's so sad to realize at this late date that none of the men on
      List have ever been able to understand anything I wrote.)
      
      There are MEN on this list?  For real--or is that just someone's subjective
      opinion?
      
      Nina
      mac.westie@verizon.net
      
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      Date:    Wed, 27 Aug 2003 19:41:13 -0700
      From:    Jen Allen <jen@jendaveallen.com>
      Subject: Re: Ru Paul [Was Re: Poll: Ritchie: Immie wannabe..
      
      Shawn wrote:
      >
      > Partly from anecdotal evidence, and partly because I find it hard to
      > believe it isn't so.
      
      Oooo! Now *there's* a logical argument! I can't believe that it's not
      true, therefore, it must be true. QED!
      
      Wow. Logic has sure changed since I studied it in college & grad school.
      I thought you had to use facts and stuff.
      
      Silly me.
      
      Jen (must be because I'm a girl)(we communicate differently you
      know)(which I'm rather greatful for after reading this thread, I must
      say...)
      
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      Date:    Wed, 27 Aug 2003 20:02:44 -0700
      From:    Sheeza Dame <sheeza@sbcglobal.net>
      Subject: Re: Seaon 3 DVDs
      
      > But what happens if Best Buy does what they did for Season 2 ?
      > I did it for season 2, and through my greed, ended up buying another set
      from Best Buy because of the extras available.
      > I'm waiting this time around.
      >
      > Sheeza
      
      I actually didn't give much thought to the Best Buy extras. I didn't figure
      they were really worth waiting and running around from store to store to
      find. It's worth more to me to have them just show up on my doorstep. And,
      I figure that if by some chance there's something spectacular on those
      special disks, I'll see it somewhere, either at a fan gathering or via a
      taped copy.
      
      ~ Becky
      
      
      
      OK, I'll admit some greed on my part.  I was able to pick up a set easily because I wanted the extra footage.
      
      For me, I think it was worth having an extra set I now need to unload, even with the glitch in Epitaph for Tommy.
      
      I'm surprised nobody, to my knowledge, that is, has discussed the extra footage.  There was a section in it significant enough to me to make me call a fellow fan long distance so she could hear what I heard and to see if it had the same impact on her as well.
      
      I'm waiting this time around...just to see if there ends up being three versions of season three as there was of season two.
      
      
      
      Sheeza
      
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      Date:    Wed, 27 Aug 2003 23:26:03 EDT
      From:    Highlandmg@aol.com
      Subject: Re: Seaon 3 DVDs
      
      Hi
      
      I had bought a new lap top a week before season two came out. It has a dvd
      player I watched Ept for Tommy on it and had the same problem. When I put it in
      my dvd player it worked perfect
      
      
      Mary
      
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      Date:    Thu, 28 Aug 2003 06:09:27 +0100
      From:    "John Mosby (Home)" <a.j.mosby@btinternet.com>
      Subject: Re: Ru Paul [Was Re: Poll: Ritchie: Immie wannabe & childish,
               or whiney voiced punk]
      
      > There are MEN on this list?  For real--or is that just someone's
      subjective
      > opinion?
      >
      > Nina
      > mac.westie@verizon.net
      
      
      Yup. Last time I checked there were no complaints.
      John
      
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      Date:    Thu, 28 Aug 2003 07:12:52 -0400
      From:    Heidi <heidi@bronze.lcs.mit.edu>
      Subject: Re: Seaon 3 DVDs
      
        From: Sheeza Dame <sheeza@sbcglobal.net>
        I'm waiting this time around...just to see if there ends up being
        three versions of season three as there was of season two.
      
      What's the third version of season 2? There's the regular set and
      the Best Buy one with the extra AP/AV/SK interivew. Was the one
      from the HL Store different from those? As for waiting, I'm doing
      the same. While deepdiscountdvd has a good price, I think that's
      their typical price so not likely to change. I did check the
      Best Buy site to see what their price was and it was much higher
      then what they charge for Season1 and S2. It seemed a bit odd
      but I've seen them have `retail list price' for things that won't
      be out for awhile and then drop the price to typical `cheap BB
      price' once it gets closer to the actual release. Kindof a strange
      way to do it but I wouldn't be suprised if they do the same for HL.
      
      =}{=
      
      (heidi@bronze.lcs.mit.edu)
      
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      Date:    Thu, 28 Aug 2003 09:39:28 EDT
      From:    Highlandmg@aol.com
      Subject: Re: Seaon 3 DVDs
      
      Hi
      
      I ordered my season 2 highlander dvd a while before they were released. I
      then heard the Best Buy was adding an extra. I canceled my deep discount order.
      Best Buy always lists the lists price. You should know a least two weeks before
      hand if Best Buy has extra's. I am just going to wait I paid 49.99 at best
      buy the cheapest anywhere I got them the day they were on shelves but I found
      out some Best Buys had them on selves a week before.
      
      Mary
      
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      Date:    Thu, 28 Aug 2003 14:32:03 +0000
      From:    beccaelizabeth <r.day@netcom.co.uk>
      Subject: Re: Seaon 3 DVDs
      
      Sheeza Dame wrote:
      > I'm surprised nobody, to my knowledge, that is, has discussed the extra
      footage.  There was a section in it significant enough to me to make me call a
      fellow fan long distance so she could hear what I heard and to see if it had the
      same impact on her as well.
      >
      
      couldnt get hold of that version, not being in America, let alone near a
      relevant store.
      Transcribe?  Point towards transcription?  tell?
      beccaelizabeth
      http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Delphi/4212/
      
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      Date:    Thu, 28 Aug 2003 10:16:22 -0500
      From:    Shawn <core@enodev.com>
      Subject: Re: Ru Paul [Was Re: Poll: Ritchie: Immie wannabe..
      
      On Wed, 2003-08-27 at 21:41, Jen Allen wrote:
      > Shawn wrote:
      > >
      > > Partly from anecdotal evidence, and partly because I find it hard to
      > > believe it isn't so.
      > Oooo! Now *there's* a logical argument! I can't believe that it's not
      > true, therefore, it must be true. QED!
      
      Well, it's true that I think so, but I understand that what I think is
      true may not be so.
      
      I think shit stinks. Do you? I don't know, but I bet you do. Oh, but I
      guess I may be wrong to think you flush your toilet, as that assumes you
      think shit should be flushed due to it smelling bad.
      
      > Wow. Logic has sure changed since I studied it in college & grad school.
      > I thought you had to use facts and stuff.
      
      No, it hasn't. You have just forgotten the difference between arguing
      about fact, and arguing about whether an opinion, or, estimation is
      logical.
      
      > Silly me.
      
      Yes, silly you.
      
      > Jen (must be because I'm a girl)(we communicate differently you
      > know)(which I'm rather greatful for after reading this thread, I must
      > say...)
      
      I'm glad I don't speak with you on a regular basis.
      
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      Date:    Thu, 28 Aug 2003 11:17:58 -0400
      From:    Judy Schneider <judyas77@hotmail.com>
      Subject: Re: Seaon 3 DVDs
      
      >Sheeza Dame wrote:
      > > I'm surprised nobody, to my knowledge, that is, has discussed the extra
      >footage.  There was a section in it significant enough to me to make me
      >call a
      >fellow fan long distance so she could hear what I heard and to see if it
      >had the
      >same impact on her as well.
      > >
      >
      Well, I haven't watched all the DVDs yet, but I've been seriously
      underwhelmed by the Director's comments and the alleged extra footage.
      Specific complaints:
      
      - whoever "directs" Bill Davis' comments needs to practice more. Angles
      shift from tight closeups, so we lose his chin and the top of his head, to
      side shots to shots that are slightly further away. (This is also especially
      noticeable in the Best of Highlander videos. Horrendous directing.) ("Get a
      really tight shot on this one, Ted. I want to be able to count the pores on
      his nose!")
      
      - Bill Davis' comments are usually not worth the electrons they use up. One
      (from the first season) was a complaint about a contract issue with a French
      guest star. This season he hasn't added much. He also does not appear to be
      comfortable in front of the camera, and I feel uncomfortable watching him be
      uncomfortable. David Abramowitz is much better, but there isn't very much of
      him.
      
      - I was highly amused at the segment when you could clearly hear the beeping
      of a truck backing up behind Bill's comments (they are filmed outside,
      obviously).
      
      - One of the extra bits was how they had to shoot 3 takes before they got
      one where you couldn't see the outline of Adrian's wireless mike under his
      clothes. Sorry, but that just didn't add much for me. Another one was "this
      is why we didn't shoot in the elevator while it was moving. It's too noisy".
      
      - Some episodes allegedly have video and/or audio commentary (haven't tried
      them yet), but so far it's darned few.
      
      - The extra scenes, at least on my set, have an icon that looks like a
      quickening icon ... lightening. Who knew they were extra bits??
      
      I like the DVDs for the episodes, but the alleged extras are not worth much,
      at least so far, IMNSHO.
      
      Judy, the Chocolate Slayer   judyas77@hotmail.com
        "I never met a chocolate I didn't like"--Deanna Troi
      
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      Date:    Thu, 28 Aug 2003 10:18:10 -0500
      From:    Shawn <core@enodev.com>
      Subject: Re: Ru Paul [Was Re: Poll: Ritchie: Immie wannabe & childish,
               or whiney voiced punk]
      
      On Wed, 2003-08-27 at 20:06, Wendy Tillis wrote:
      >  Shawn wrote:
      > >Of my grammar/spelling mistakes pointed out, none of them change the
      > >meaning of any point I was trying to make.
      >
      > Yur rite, eye think wee all undrstuud wat u wer taakin about.
      
      You little bitch. What part of the email you're responding to is meant
      to be insulting? Why are you then being insulting?
      
      > >It's probably more a gender communication issue. It's no joke, women
      > >communicate differently than men.
      >
      > Gods, I love that sexy "man logic". Makes me feel all safe and girlish.
      
      Better than bitch logic.
      
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      Date:    Thu, 28 Aug 2003 10:19:46 -0500
      From:    Shawn <core@enodev.com>
      Subject: See ya.
      
      I'm soooo sick of all the bitchy fucked up man haters, I'm DEFINITELY
      not resubscribing.
      
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      Date:    Thu, 28 Aug 2003 11:37:27 -0400
      From:    Sandy Fields <diamonique@comcast.net>
      Subject: Re: See ya.
      
      At 10:19 AM 08/28/2003 -0500, Shawn wrote:
      >I'm soooo sick of all the bitchy fucked up man haters, I'm DEFINITELY
      >not resubscribing.
      
      Well!  That was refreshing!
      
      -- Sandy (how old did he say he is?)
      
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      Date:    Thu, 28 Aug 2003 12:21:39 EDT
      From:    Dotiran@aol.com
      Subject: Re: Seaon 3 DVDs
      
      In a message dated 8/28/2003 9:33:15 AM US Eastern Standard Time,
      r.day@netcom.co.uk writes:
      
      > There was a section in it significant enough to me to make me call a
      > fellow fan long distance so she could hear what I heard and to see if it had
      > the
      > same impact on her as well.
      >
      
      And so are we going to hear what that was? Or must we live in suspense?
      
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      Date:    Thu, 28 Aug 2003 10:49:35 -0700
      From:    Sheeza Dame <sheeza@sbcglobal.net>
      Subject: Re: Seaon 3 DVDs (Commentary Spoiler)
      
      Dotiran@aol.com wrote:In a message dated 8/28/2003 9:33:15 AM US Eastern Standard Time,
      r.day@netcom.co.uk writes:
      
      > There was a section in it significant enough to me to make me call a
      > fellow fan long distance so she could hear what I heard and to see if it had
      > the
      > same impact on her as well.
      >
      
      And so are we going to hear what that was? Or must we live in suspense?
      
      
      
      My apologies...at work and slightly ailing with my husband's leftover stomach 'thing'.
      
      
      
      I've not been in the HL fandom as long as some, but for as long as I *have* been, it seemed that AP made the distinction between himself and Duncan MacLeod crystal clear.
      
      What I heard in the commentary on the Best Buy set, he was discussing Studies in Light and how meaningful the episode was.  While he was talking, he switched from speaking about Duncan and referring to him as 'he', to speaking about himself and saying ' I '.  From "he loved Linda," to "I loved Linda," sort of thing.
      
      
      
      And yeah, it was enough for me to call someone who'd been around alot longer and get her opinion on it.
      
      
      
      It seemed to stand out very clearly to me, but was waiting to see if anyone else would comment on this.
      
      I liked the interviews with Stan Kirsch and Alexandra Vandernoot and thought it was worth the expense and hassle of going to Best Buy.
      
      
      
      Sheeza
      
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      Date:    Thu, 28 Aug 2003 14:47:47 -0400
      From:    Wendy Tillis <immortals_incorporated@cox.net>
      Subject: Re: See ya.
      
       Shawn wrote:
      >I'm soooo sick of all the bitchy f****d up man haters, I'm DEFINITELY
      >not resubscribing.
      
      And he thought *Richie* was annoying???
      
      Sheesh!
      
      Wendy( I think we need more little paper umbrellas for the frosty fruit drinks.)(Who's in charge of procurement?)
      Immortals Inc.
      immortals_incorporated@cox.net
      "Weasels for Eternity"
      
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      Date:    Thu, 28 Aug 2003 12:03:57 -0700
      From:    Becky Doland <becky@beckyjo.com>
      Subject: Re: See ya.
      
      > Wendy( I think we need more little paper umbrellas for
      > the frosty fruit drinks.)(Who's in charge of
      > procurement?)
      
      
      what, no little swords?
      
      ~ Becky
      
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      Date:    Thu, 28 Aug 2003 08:14:55 -1000
      From:    MacWestie <mac.westie@verizon.net>
      Subject: Re: See ya.
      
      dearest Shawn--
      > I'm soooo sick of all the bitchy fucked up man haters
      
      There are CANADIANS on the list?
      
      Nina (you should see what he sends out privately....)
      mac.westie@verizon.net
      
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      Date:    Thu, 28 Aug 2003 15:12:57 -0400
      From:    Wendy Tillis <immortals_incorporated@cox.net>
      Subject: A warning  ( was Re: See ya.)
      
       Shawn wrote:
      
      <blah, blah, blah>
      
      It seems that Shawn sent out a little parting message to a number of Listees. It comes from a different email address (he is apparently smart enough to use false ID) and has a picture attached. The one sent to me had "Duncan and Methos" as a subject line. The picture is graphic and shouldn't be viewed by children.
      
      Wendy(No, I can't prove it was Shawn.)(But, yes, it was Shawn)(If the picture is of Shawn, he needs to use more lubrication.)
      
      Immortals Inc.
      immortals_incorporated@cox.net
      "Weasels for Eternity"
      
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      Date:    Thu, 28 Aug 2003 15:18:00 -0400
      From:    Wendy Tillis <immortals_incorporated@cox.net>
      Subject: Re: See ya.
      
      Me:
      >>( I think we need more little paper umbrellas for
      >> the frosty fruit drinks.)(Who's in charge of
      >> procurement?)
      >
      Becky asks:
      >what, no little swords?
      
      No, too many peole were losing eyes.
      
      Wendy(Sales of eye patches went sky high)
      
      
      Immortals Inc.
      immortals_incorporated@cox.net
      "Weasels for Eternity"
      
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      Date:    Thu, 28 Aug 2003 21:51:20 +0200
      From:    T'Mar <tmar@sifl.iid.co.za>
      Subject: Re: See ya.
      
      Nina wrote:
      >There are CANADIANS on the list?
      
      No, no, don't bring up the Canadians! That way lies madness!
      
      >(you should see what he sends out privately....)
      
      Oooh, can I see?
      
      You know, for all the fights we've had on this list, it's never
      once occurred to me to send out rude pictures.
      
      The man obviously had no stomach for debate. If he'd had any wit, he'd
      have constructed himself a nice bunker and duct-taped some pillows
      to himself...
      
      - Marina. (Joining Wendy for a fruity drink, complete with decorative
      swords.)
      
      \\  "You've heard it said that living well is  ||>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  //
      //   the best revenge? Au contraire - living   || R I C H I E >>  \\
      \\   forever is the best revenge." - Lacroix   ||>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  //
      //=====Marina Bailey====tmar@sifl.iid.co.za====||                 \\
      \\=============Chief Flag Waver and Defender of Richie============//
      
      Discussing Voyager:
      Me: What happened to Seven?
      My brother: She stumbled into a plot device.
      
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      Date:    Thu, 28 Aug 2003 23:51:59 +0100
      From:    "John Mosby (Home)" <a.j.mosby@btinternet.com>
      Subject: Re: See ya.
      
      No f-ed up man haters here.
      
      Some subscribers hate everyone, some hate no-one, but trust me if ther e
      were any specific man-haters here, I'd know about it.
      
      John
      
      
      
      
      
      ----- Original Message -----
      From: "Shawn" <core@enodev.com>
      To: <HIGHLA-L@LISTS.PSU.EDU>
      Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2003 4:19 PM
      Subject: [HL] See ya.
      
      
      > I'm soooo sick of all the bitchy fucked up man haters, I'm DEFINITELY
      > not resubscribing.
      
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      Date:    Thu, 28 Aug 2003 19:21:53 -0400
      From:    Pgannon <pgannon@optonline.net>
      Subject: Re: See ya.
      
      Sandy - whatever his age, he was too young.....LOL
      Peggie  ;-P
      ----- Original Message -----
      From: "Sandy Fields" <diamonique@comcast.net>
      To: <HIGHLA-L@LISTS.PSU.EDU>
      Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2003 11:37 AM
      Subject: Re: See ya.
      
      
      > At 10:19 AM 08/28/2003 -0500, Shawn wrote:
      > >I'm soooo sick of all the bitchy fucked up man haters, I'm DEFINITELY
      > >not resubscribing.
      >
      > Well!  That was refreshing!
      >
      > -- Sandy (how old did he say he is?)
      
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      Date:    Thu, 28 Aug 2003 17:42:20 -0700
      From:    Pat Lawson <plawson@webleyweb.com>
      Subject: Re: See ya.
      
      Wendy wrote:
      
      >  Shawn wrote:
      > >I'm soooo sick of all the bitchy f****d up man haters, I'm DEFINITELY
      > >not resubscribing.
      >
      >And he thought *Richie* was annoying???
      
      It's coming up on Sept. and back to school time.   I kinda miss the annual
      running-of-the-freshmen-bunnies.   Guess they're too busy downloading music
      & movies  these days.
      
         Pat
      
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