HIGHLA-L Digest - 7 Aug 2003 to 8 Aug 2003 (#2003-180)

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      Topics of the day:
      
        1. HL Season 2 sets? (9)
        2. Suicide and immortality? (5)
        3. HL Moments (3)
      
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      Date:    Thu, 7 Aug 2003 23:37:10 -0700
      From:    Gregory Mate <gmate@rogers.com>
      Subject: Re: HL Season 2 sets?
      
      Today I am the proud owner of the season 2 DVD's.  Not the Best Buy ones
      (didn't feel like driving nearly 1 hour round trip to save $5 and get a few
      extra interviews) so I picked up the 8 DVD Anchor Bay set from Futureshop
      ($80 cdn + tax, works out to about $60 US with the exchange so I'm
      happy).  Got the cheesy medallion, $5 coupon for HL Store junk, chance to
      win the T-Bird (I'm about as likely to win anything in a contest as to
      stick myself with a knife and wake up an Immortal), and of course the
      DVD's.  They didn't have Season 1 in, or I would have bought it as well.
      
      Wendy:
      >Come on, you know you are going to shell out the $5.95 for the little
      >display plaque to put the medallion in and to get the free "special
      >edition" first season medallion, too. All the really dedicated and cool
      >fans will have one.
      
      Not a chance.  I'm going to collect all the medallions, carry them with me
      and lord them over anyone who doesn't have them.  I already feel superior
      just having one!
      
      ....Greg....
      gmate@rogers.com
      He Who Now Has Season 2 VHS Tapes For Sale (e-mail me if interested)
      
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      Date:    Fri, 8 Aug 2003 09:17:48 -0400
      From:    Wendy Tillis <immortals_incorporated@cox.net>
      Subject: Re: HL Season 2 sets?
      
      Me:
      >>Come on, you know you are going to shell out the $5.95 for the little
      >>display plaque to put the medallion in and to get the free "special
      >>edition" first season medallion, too. All the really dedicated and cool
      >>fans will have one.
      
      Greg:
      >Not a chance.  I'm going to collect all the medallions, carry them with me
      >and lord them over anyone who doesn't have them.  I already feel superior
      >just having one!
      
      Ha! But you'll never have the Season One medallion unless you buy the crappy medallion holder! Those of us with the rare and magical Season One medallion will lord it over all you peons with your pitiful, incomplete sets!!!
      
      Greg:
      >He Who Now Has Season 2 VHS Tapes For Sale (e-mail me if interested)
      
      As do we all <eg>
      
      Wendy (Can you say "glut on the market"?)
      Immortals Inc.
      immortals_incorporated@cox.net
      "Weasels for Eternity"
      
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      Date:    Fri, 8 Aug 2003 08:44:34 -0400
      From:    Becky Doland <becky@beckyjo.com>
      Subject: Suicide and immortality?
      
      When Greg said:
      (I'm about as likely to win anything in a contest as to
      > stick myself with a knife and wake up an Immortal)
      
      It made me wonder.  Is there anywhere in canon (or anywhere else for that
      matter) where an immie is 'born' as a result of a suicide?
      
      Geez, wouldn't that be the ultimate bummer - resolved to end it all, only to
      discover that you can't.
      
      ~ Becky
      
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      Date:    Fri, 8 Aug 2003 10:12:15 -0400
      From:    Wendy Tillis <immortals_incorporated@cox.net>
      Subject: Re: Suicide and immortality?
      
       Becky wrote:
      >It made me wonder.  Is there anywhere in canon (or anywhere else for that
      >matter) where an immie is 'born' as a result of a suicide?
      
      Michael Moore was a suicide according to the Watchers Chronicle.  Unable to kill himself permanently, he became the evil Quentin Barnes in his spare time.
      
      >Geez, wouldn't that be the ultimate bummer - resolved to end it all, only
      >to discover that you can't.
      
      Already depressed (or hopeless)(or crazy) enough to commit suicide, discovering you were Immortal could push you further around the bend.  I doubt such Immortals would last long (Quentin Barnes got himself hung in short order).
      
      OTOH, perhaps some people wake up from their ultimately unsuccessful suicide attempt and feel better. Life is suddenly a lot more interesting than they thought.
      
      Wendy(Does *how* you commit suicide matter?)(Is an overdose of sleeping pills "violent" enough?)(Poison?)(Poison only if it hurts a lot?)(How about carbon monoxide?)
      Immortals Inc.
      immortals_incorporated@cox.net
      "Weasels for Eternity"
      
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      Date:    Fri, 8 Aug 2003 10:32:31 -0500
      From:    Vicki Farmer <vickita1961@netscape.net>
      Subject: Re: HL Season 2 sets?
      
      Wendy Tillis wrote:
      
      > Greg:
      >
      >>He Who Now Has Season 2 VHS Tapes For Sale (e-mail me if interested)
      >
      >
      > As do we all <eg>
      >
      > Wendy (Can you say "glut on the market"?)
      
      You know, I've been thinking about trying to find a place to donate
      mine.  The local hospital library, a shelter for teens, _someplace_.
      
      'Cause yeah, I don't expect to be able to sell them for much (if at
      all), and it's a hassle, and I'd rather just give them to somebody who
      might still make good use of them...
      
      Vicki F.
      
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      Date:    Fri, 8 Aug 2003 09:22:58 -0700
      From:    FKMel <sgt_buck_frobisher@yahoo.com>
      Subject: HL Moments
      
      I was watching Hollywood Squares on Game Show Network
      this morning, and one of the bonus prizes at the end
      was a barge cruise in Paris. The contestant ended up
      picking it but didn't win....anyway, I sat there
      thinking "Is there a way to stop off and pay Mac a
      visit?" LOL. Of course, if there was, I'd end up
      saying "just go on and I'll stay here...pick me up if
      you come back this way." ROFL. They showed the barge
      btw and it was different colors than Mac's but it
      still reminded me of the HL one (ones really).
      
      It was a Halloween week ep and I also couldn't help
      laughing a bit at Anthony Stewart Head, who showed up
      in a Robin Hood costume. At one point, he had a fake
      arrow sticking out of his chest and I couldn't watch
      without thinking "Immortal! he's an immortal!" LOLOL.
      
      You know, I still find myself pondering whether those
      two shows' Watchers have any connections at all....I
      know they're different...Buffy Watchers do get
      involved...but I can't help pondering LOL. Maybe it's
      a special secret division that's got different rules
      than the main Watcher corps.
      
      I know, I have too much time on my hands.
      
      Mel, who'd heard of houseboats but had no idea people
      lived on barges like Macs until HL
      
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      Date:    Fri, 8 Aug 2003 09:25:50 -0700
      From:    FKMel <sgt_buck_frobisher@yahoo.com>
      Subject: HL Moments
      
      Oops, forgot one small detail that probably means
      "no"....Only HL Watchers have tattoos.
      
      Mel (okay, I'll be quiet now)
      
      
      You know, I still find myself pondering whether those
      two shows' Watchers have any connections at all....I
      know they're different...Buffy Watchers do get
      involved...but I can't help pondering LOL. Maybe it's
      a special secret division that's got different rules
      than the main Watcher corps.
      
      
      
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      Date:    Fri, 8 Aug 2003 10:05:35 -1000
      From:    MacWestie <mac.westie@verizon.net>
      Subject: Re: Suicide and immortality?
      
      Wendy--
      >>> Michael Moore was a suicide according to the Watchers Chronicle.  Unable
      to kill himself permanently, he became the evil Quentin Barnes in his spare
      time.>>>
      
      And it fits--he was totally ineffectual as a good guy.  At the end, he
      begged DM to finish the job he started.
      
      No other suicides-turned-Immie in the series that I ever noticed.  (Felicia
      pretended to end her mortal life by jumping off that building, but in fact
      she was raped & killed by highwaymen in the 1700's, per the WCD.)  Danny
      Cimoli "suicided" twice nightly (3 shows on Saturday) as his circus act.  At
      the other end of things, the Hermit in DM's Archangel flashback beheaded
      himself--whether to pass on his Chosen One mantle to DM via the Q, or just
      because he was nutso.  In Endgame, Connor did much the same on that rooftop.
      Probably, a lot of disenchanted Immies viewed combat as a handy way
      out--Brian Cullen in Courage comes to mind, though he certainly made DM pay
      the physical & emotional price for ending his life for him.  Also, Warren
      Cochrane clearly preferred not to continue living w/ what he'd done.  I'm
      sure there are others.  Forcing one's friend to do the deed is a
      particularly unpleasant form of assisted suicide, I think; go find a
      stranger Immie & let _him_ put you out of your misery.
      
      
      >>> OTOH, perhaps some people wake up from their ultimately unsuccessful
      suicide attempt and feel better. Life is suddenly a lot more interesting
      than they thought.>>>
      
      Sounds like Methos.  Now, THAT would be ironic.
      
      Nina
      mac.westie@verizon.net
      
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      Date:    Fri, 8 Aug 2003 17:27:39 -0700
      From:    Gregory Mate <gmate@rogers.com>
      Subject: Re: HL Moments
      
      FKMel:
      
      >You know, I still find myself pondering whether those
      >two shows' Watchers have any connections at all....I
      >know they're different...Buffy Watchers do get
      >involved...but I can't help pondering LOL. Maybe it's
      >a special secret division that's got different rules
      >than the main Watcher corps.
      
      Nope, two totally different entities.  Although once a year at a secret
      location they have special competitions, sort of like the old Battle of the
      Network Stars.  Only reason the HL Watchers have the tattoos is that
      they've won every year running.
      
      ....Greg....
      gmate@rogers.com
      He Who Hopes The Season Five Cheesy Medallion Has A Picture Of Duncan
      Taking Richie's Quickening
      
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      Date:    Fri, 8 Aug 2003 17:42:15 -0700
      From:    Gregory Mate <gmate@rogers.com>
      Subject: Re: HL Season 2 sets?
      
      Wendy:
      
      >Ha! But you'll never have the Season One medallion unless you buy the
      >crappy medallion holder! Those of us with the rare and magical Season One
      >medallion will lord it over all you peons with your pitiful, incomplete sets!!!
      
      Oh those manipulative marketers!  I thought the Season One DVD's came with
      Medallion #1.
      
      Feh.  Now I have to play catch-up with you.
      
      ....Greg....
      gmate@rogers.com
      He Who Is Filling Out The Order Form Right Now
      
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      Date:    Fri, 8 Aug 2003 17:47:09 -0700
      From:    Gregory Mate <gmate@rogers.com>
      Subject: Re: HL Season 2 sets?
      
      Vicki:
      
      >'Cause yeah, I don't expect to be able to sell them for much (if at
      >all), and it's a hassle, and I'd rather just give them to somebody who
      >might still make good use of them...
      
      Yes, share them with the masses who have never heard of
      Highlander!  Proselytize to the great unwashed!  Ahhhh...I'm feeling
      charitable now!
      
      
      ....Greg....
      gmate@rogers.com
      He Who Is Looking Into Setting Up Highlander Rallies
      
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      Date:    Fri, 8 Aug 2003 17:55:30 -0700
      From:    Gregory Mate <gmate@rogers.com>
      Subject: Re: Suicide and immortality?
      
      Nina:
      
      >sure there are others.  Forcing one's friend to do the deed is a
      >particularly unpleasant form of assisted suicide, I think; go find a
      >stranger Immie & let _him_ put you out of your misery.
      
      Don't forget Mikey putting his neck across the railroad tracks in the
      tunnel.  At least he didn't make an unwilling Immortal do something s/he
      would regret (Richie, for example).
      
      ....Greg....
      gmate@rogers.com
      He Who Really Wonders If Richie Didn't Have A Death Wish In "Archangel"
      
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      Date:    Fri, 8 Aug 2003 15:20:57 -0700
      From:    FKMel <sgt_buck_frobisher@yahoo.com>
      Subject: Re: Suicide and immortality?
      
      :: Cue rant by Marina....that is, if you're still
      around here somewhere. ::
      
      Mel, who doesn't think she's gonna like Archangel a
      lot...she's already testing the waters of the River
      Denial re Richie and deep in the river re Connor.
      >
      > ....Greg....
      > gmate@rogers.com
      > He Who Really Wonders If Richie Didn't Have A Death
      > Wish In "Archangel"
      
      
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      Date:    Fri, 8 Aug 2003 23:23:49 +0100
      From:    Jette Goldie <jette@blueyonder.co.uk>
      Subject: Re: HL Season 2 sets?
      
      > Greg:
      > >He Who Now Has Season 2 VHS Tapes For Sale (e-mail me if interested)
      >
      > As do we all <eg>
      >
      > Wendy (Can you say "glut on the market"?)
      
      
      So, send them to the local charity (thrift?) shop where someone
      will be happy to sell them, someone else will be happy to buy them
      and HL may gain another Fan!  (you know there have to be Fans
      who couldn't afford to buy them from the HL store!)
      
      Jette
      "Work for Peace and remain Fiercely Loving" - Jim Byrnes
      jette@blueyonder.co.uk
      http://www.jette.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/
      
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      Date:    Fri, 8 Aug 2003 17:28:10 -0500
      From:    Vicki Farmer <vickita1961@netscape.net>
      Subject: Re: HL Season 2 sets?
      
      Gregory Mate wrote:
      
      > Yes, share them with the masses who have never heard of
      > Highlander!  Proselytize to the great unwashed!
      
      'zackly.
      
      Vicki
      Ulterior Motives R Us
      
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      Date:    Fri, 8 Aug 2003 18:39:34 EDT
      From:    Highlandmg@aol.com
      Subject: Re: HL Season 2 sets?
      
      Hi
      
      Donate any unwanted tapes or dvd;s to veteran's hospital not worth trying to
      sell them.  You can try public library.
      '
      
      
      Mary
      
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      Date:    Fri, 8 Aug 2003 13:18:32 -1000
      From:    MacWestie <mac.westie@verizon.net>
      Subject: Re: HL Season 2 sets?
      
      > > Wendy (Can you say "glut on the market"?)
      
      Just hold them for 6 months or a year.  HL S1 tape sets were all but
      worthless on ebay after the DVD set came out.  Now, they're suddenly selling
      nicely again.
      
      Nina (be bold & sell your S3 sets NOW)
      mac.westie@verizon.net
      
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