HIGHLA-L Digest - 20 Jul 2003 to 21 Jul 2003 (#2003-162)
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Topics of the day:
1. HL DVD sets??? (6)
2. Leader of the Pack
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Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2003 19:55:10 -0700
From: FKMel <sgt_buck_frobisher@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: HL DVD sets???
Tchotchkes
Whats? I've never heard that word before. And I'm
usually good at figuring out big words, too.
I can't afford a DVD player and even if I could, the
DVD's would be out of my range. So...I have to stick
with taping off TNN, cuts, annoying onscreen ads and
all. Wouldn't mind having them without the ads, but
I'll take what I can get.
Mel, who hopes they don't pull anymore skips on her
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Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2003 23:32:52 -0400
From: Wendy Tillis <immortals_incorporated@cox.net>
Subject: Re: HL DVD sets???
Nina wrote:
>Yes, I'm slow, but I just got around to actually watching the HL season 1
>DVD set that I bought ages ago. And I am vastly disappointed. There's
>really not much there, is there?
My guess would be that there are two factors at work. First, the urge to get Season 1 *out* while there is still some hope that people will buy the darned things and 2) the probably lack of extra "stuff" available for Season 1. Do TV shows automatically keep "extra" footage after an episode is shot? Were people thinking "director's cut" or "DVD extra" in 1992? As for commentaries- yeah I guess some would be nice but, personally, I couldn't care less about what the art director thinks of a scene or how hard it was to find new locations to use in Vancouver. As for hearing the actors talk about episodes..I've heard them at conventions and they frequently have nothing of any import to say. It was a job..they said the lines..they started learning next week's lines.
>And, is season 3 scheduled to come out anytime soon? Or, will the
>original crop of fans die of old age before the series is fully available
>on DVD? If they're gonna be bare-bones, then why the wait?
I think I read on alt.tv.highlander that the next sets will follow at a very reasonable pace. Donna (Gillian?)(I *do* know which is which but they were both posting about this) is going over the extra footage that is available with the intention of adding as much "new" stuff as possible. I don't remember anything about additional commentary. I do know they aren't "updating" the Watcher's Chronicles with "new" information about what has happened to the Immortals since last we saw them - as the Series is a complete work that shouldn't be meddled with. They think (rightly, I think) that making up new events is akin to fanfic and is best left to fans (if such things much be written at all)(And *no* I do not want to start another round of "Fanfic is Evil" versus "Fanfic is A God Given Right")(We just did that.)(Move along....move along)
It will be interesting to see what they do with the later seasons that had fewer episode. In the past, with the VHS sets, they padded the set with the blooper reel or "making of" footage. But they have already used all of that in the Season One dvds. I certainly hope they lower the price on the sets that have fewer discs.
I'm trying not to but the blasted things but my resistance to Highlander merchandise has always been weak.
Wendy(How is the price of dvd sets set anyway?)(Star Trek Deep Space 9 sets cost $100.)("Buffy sets cost $50)(Babylon 5 sets cost $75.)(Friends cost $30.)(All for 22 episodes and a few extras.)(Why???)
Fairy Killer
jjswbt@cox.net
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Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2003 23:40:32 -0400
From: Becky Doland <becky@beckyjo.com>
Subject: Re: HL DVD sets???
> So, at least BP has someone to talk to. And we get a bit of AP--lovely.
And
> some lost scenes--cool. Plus scripts & photos. I'll wait a bit &
probably
> get the S2 set off ebay, or maybe from Best Buy.com (currently $60).
>
deepdiscountdvd.com has it for $54, and free shipping. That's the best deal
I've seen so far.
~ Becky
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Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2003 01:46:34 -0700
From: "R. Shelton" <rshelton2@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: HL DVD sets???
At 11:32 PM -0400 7/20/03, Wendy Tillis wrote:
>It will be interesting to see what they do with the later seasons
>that had fewer episode. In the past, with the VHS sets, they padded
>the set with the blooper reel or "making of" footage. But they have
>already used all of that in the Season One dvds. I certainly hope
>they lower the price on the sets that have fewer discs.
I agree; it would be nice if they lowered the price or possibly
combined a couple seasons. That's probably unlikely, but you never
know. I read Gillian posted that she was involved in "culling
through all the HL footage in storage from Highlander, to find the
best alternate takes and unused scenes to include on the DVD sets for
seasons 3-6."
>I'm trying not to but the blasted things but my resistance to
>Highlander merchandise has always been weak.
Ditto on that! :) I have to wait as money's too tight right now, but
it'll sure be nice to eventually replace all the bulky VHS sets with
DVDs.
>Wendy(How is the price of dvd sets set anyway?)
I've seen a few different posts here with varying prices. I looked
up S1 at Amazon & they want $76.49, with 'new & used' ones starting
at $55.99.
They're selling HL S2 also - as 'not yet released' for $67.49 (what
the hell's wrong with $77, $56 & $68?)(I'm tired of this $.99 crap),
with a release date of July 29.
>(Star Trek Deep Space 9 sets cost $100.)("Buffy sets cost
>$50)(Babylon 5 sets cost $75.)(Friends cost $30.)(All for 22
>episodes and a few extras.)(Why???)
Good question! What annoying, wildly varying prices they're charging
for all these TV series DVDs! They want about $75 for LFN S1, which
was just released also. Again, this is all at Amazon.
I haven't looked, but is there a market for used tape sets in very
good condition? Probably eBay? I may hassle selling my tape sets to
help pay for the DVDs...otherwise it could be a long wait for me.
Rachel
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Rachel Shelton *
rshelton2@earthlink.net
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Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2003 16:12:45 EDT
From: Kln73@aol.com
Subject: Re: HL DVD sets???
<<> Tchotchkes
>
> Whats? I've never heard that word before. And I'm
> usually good at figuring out big words, too.>>
Think Chachi on Happy Days and say chach-keys. It means the same thing as
knick knacks.
Kristi
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Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2003 15:34:59 -0700
From: FKMel <sgt_buck_frobisher@yahoo.com>
Subject: Leader of the Pack
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From: "knightangel314" <sgt_buck_frobisher@y...>
Date: Mon Jul 21, 2003 3:18 pm
Subject: Re: Today's ep: Leader of the Pack
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I totally agree, Quinn.
Fru Lady, can we pretty please have some frus? I gotta
see the
underwear scene again! Even if it was already posted.
Yum!
All in all, a most excellent adventure. All this, and
the underwear,
bare chest, loose hair, and a romp with the duchess to
boot! Darn
better than chocolate-- even the rich Austrian stuff
my friend in
Vienna sent, that I was munching during the show. LOL
>
> Quinn, well pleased and satisfied.
My comments, as posted to Holyground forum:
>
I think I'm going to add this one to my 'favorite eps'
list, even
though I was in tears or close to tears during a large
part of it.
(the flashback scenes were sooo sad....*sob* I gotta
feel sorry for
Mac. Twice now he's moved on from what happened only
to have the
wounds ripped open again. Maybe now, he can move on
finally.
I think it said a lot about Mac with him deciding not
to exact
revenge. It's natural to want closure and justice, to
want the
responsibe party to pay, but Mac could also see that
Mark had changed
and was wise enough to let the kid have what he and
Tessa had so
desperately wanted.
I love Stan's acting in here...I could really see the
rage and anger
in his eyes and on his face. And Richie, too, was wise
enough (no
doubt due to Mac and Tessa's influence) to let Mark
go.
I kept thinking back to 'Take Back the Night' and the
lesson that was
passed between Mac and Cierdwyn....'revenge never
solves anything'.
Mac knew that getting his revenge wouldn't change or
undo anything,
and showed mercy even though there wasn't true
justice.
The only part I didn't like was that Quickening...Can
we say 'Hokey'?
LOL. Gotta love Mac's quip though. "Should have bought
earthquake
insurance."
And how about that yummmy view of Duncan in his undies
and robe?
Yummmmmmm! pantpantpant me-YOW!
Ok, I'll go throw cold water on myself before I
overheat. But you
gotta admit that was some view, eh ladies?
Overall, a rather good, well acted ep, despite the
Quickening. And
Mac's got some great lines, too.('nice flea collar.'
Love it.)
Question: Why didn't Mac make any effort to call the
police and
ambulance? I know that he probably knew there was no
hope, but I'd
want to know that everything that could have been done
to try and
save her had been done.
Richie's lucky that they didn't have DNA testing
yet....they may have
found that there were actually TWO blood types and
then things
would've gotten even more confusing.
Besides Darkness, Gathering and the ep with the
pigeons (Avenging
Angel?) where were the Tessa flashbacks from? I didn't
recognize some
of them. Was it stuff that was cut for time
considerations?
Mel, who knows that AP had rotties until his ex got
them and wonders
if any of those were his rotties
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Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2003 12:41:24 -1000
From: MacWestie <mac.westie@verizon.net>
Subject: Re: HL DVD sets???
Wendy--
>>> My guess would be that there are two factors at work. First, the urge to
get Season 1 *out* while there is still some hope that people will buy the
darned things and 2) the probably lack of extra "stuff" available for Season
1. Do TV shows automatically keep "extra" footage after an episode is shot?
Were people thinking "director's cut" or "DVD extra" in 1992? >>>
Well, if anyone was, it would have been DPP. After all, they were "forced"
to put out corrected/expanded versions of each & every HL film. I expect
they saw the whole euro minute thing as a godsend, as it was a great boon to
sales of their HL video sets. Now, they get to do it all over again on DVD.
I just wish they were making it worthwhile _aside_ from changing formats; S1
isn't, & S2 looks iffy. As for delays, the series ended 5 years ago, & the
season 2 set is coming out this month. Other shows seem able to put out
quality DVDs a lot more promptly.
>>>As for commentaries- yeah I guess some would be nice but, personally, I
couldn't care less about what the art director thinks of a scene or how hard
it was to find new locations to use in Vancouver. As for hearing the actors
talk about episodes..I've heard them at conventions and they frequently have
nothing of any import to say. It was a job..they said the lines..they
started learning next week's lines.>>>
It's not so much that BP was the ONLY one talking on the S1 DVDs, as he did
it so poorly & had nothing of note to say. However, the box touts
"Interviews"; the implication is something more than 22 monologue snippets
from the same guy. I do hope the rest of the sets give us more & better
than that.
Nina (5 years ago....that CAN'T be right)
mac.westie@verizon.net
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