HIGHLA-L Digest - 16 Jul 2003 to 17 Jul 2003 (#2003-158)
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Topics of the day:
1. Homeland (6)
2. Brothers in Arms
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Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 06:35:33 -0700
From: FKMel <sgt_buck_frobisher@yahoo.com>
Subject: Homeland
I have to say I really liked this ep even if there are
some canon flaws, like Glenfinnan not being in MacLeod
lands in RL....I can overlook that stuff because it's
a fantasy universe. It seems that AP did a good job
directing the ep.
I recognized that song they played....it's the one
from Endgame. It's a lovely piece but what's the name?
I don't know what it's called.
I really did feel sorry for Duncan in the first couple
of flashback scenes. Just out of curiosity, why would
the death be ruled a suicide if she didn't actually
jump? Dunan would have been upset and grieving, but
couldn't he have still told them what happened?
Is Deliverance the only place Rachael shows up again?
Too bad Mac and Joe will end up angry at each other
after today....but it's pretty understandable I guess
and they *did* make up eventually.
Mel, who now realizes that Ian's sword and Connor's
sword *were* different...but Connor's looked somewhat
like a cheftain's sword to me. But maybe it wasn't.
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Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 17:50:11 +0100
From: Jette Goldie <jette@blueyonder.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Homeland
>
> I recognized that song they played....it's the one
> from Endgame. It's a lovely piece but what's the name?
> I don't know what it's called.
>
"Bonny Portmore" - it's actually an Irish song about
a tree.
>
> Is Deliverance the only place Rachael shows up again?
No. She sticks around in Paris long enough to appear
in the next ep.
Jette
"Work for Peace and remain Fiercely Loving" - Jim Byrnes
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Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 08:59:57 -1000
From: MacWestie <mac.westie@verizon.net>
Subject: Re: Homeland
Mel--
> I have to say I really liked this ep even if there are
> some canon flaws, like Glenfinnan not being in MacLeod
> lands in RL....I can overlook that stuff because it's
> a fantasy universe. It seems that AP did a good job
> directing the ep.
The bugs should have gotten a credit. Also--Debra's enormo curly red wig.
The final fight & Q were kinda lame. Best part is shouting out "Canada!" or
"Scotland!" throughout the ep for each scene. (Brown landscape, rain, &
ONLY Jim Byrnes & AP in the shot--Scotland; green & buggy--Canada.)
> I recognized that song they played....it's the one
> from Endgame. It's a lovely piece but what's the name?
> I don't know what it's called.
Ancient folk song--Bonny Portmore. They used the Loreena McKennitt version
in HL3 but couldn't afford it for the series, so they had Roger Bellon play
around w/ the tune & Laura Creamer sing it; the series version is more
pleasing than LS's version, in my opinion.
Jette--
>>>"Bonny Portmore" - it's actually an Irish song about
a tree.>>>
But a very BIG tree. Oddly enough, Michael Hoppe's "Homeland" (on his CD of
the same name) would have been the perfect song for this ep.
Nina
mac.westie@verizon.net
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Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 15:11:26 -0400
From: L Cameron-Norfleet <cgliser@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: Homeland
>Jette--
>>>>"Bonny Portmore" - it's actually an Irish song about
>a tree.>>>
Nina:
>But a very BIG tree.
Not JUST a big tree, though. The song is about the Portmore Oak,
which was one of the last old growth trees left in Ireland and was
cut down (along with the rest of them) to build English ships (for
the navy) and houses for the nobility.
Liser
--
Lisa Cameron-Norfleet ** cgliser@earthlink.net
--
The difference between truth and fiction: fiction has to make sense
--Mark Twain
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Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 13:52:21 -0700
From: "R. Shelton" <rshelton2@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: Homeland
At 03:11 PM -0400 7/17/03, L Cameron-Norfleet wrote:
>Not JUST a big tree, though. The song is about the Portmore Oak,
>which was one of the last old growth trees left in Ireland and was
>cut down (along with the rest of them) to build English ships (for
>the navy) and houses for the nobility.
Thank you, Lisa!
This has been bugging me since this morning. I knew the tree had
significance in Irish history, but didn't remember the info, which
I'm sure I originally learned here. :)
At 06:35 AM -0700 7/17/03, FKMel wrote:
>I really did feel sorry for Duncan in the first couple of flashback
>scenes. Just out of curiosity, why would the death be ruled a
>suicide if she didn't actually jump? Dunan would have been upset and
>grieving, but couldn't he have still told them what happened?
Good question. Was it because that was her original intent? Duncan
could've just said the cliff gave way; I wonder why he didn't if it
was so important?
Even if they weren't supposed to be up on that cliff together,
couldn't he have come up with something, even if he had to say they
were meeting secretly? I haven't seen Homeland in a while, but Duncan
had to tell everyone & would've been 'first to find the body', I
think.
Rachel (behind on my tape viewing) (were the writers just going for
the total angst?)
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Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 15:28:42 -0700
From: FKMel <sgt_buck_frobisher@yahoo.com>
Subject: Brothers in Arms
I've kinda been waiting for this ep a while and anyway
my one big question is "Why didn't Duncan tell Charlie
earlier?" I don't get why he waited until it was too
late.
I can really see the emotion in Joe's face at the
end...and I'm glad that Duncan was able to make peace
with him later on.
Mel
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Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 14:50:31 -1000
From: MacWestie <mac.westie@verizon.net>
Subject: Re: Homeland
Liser--
> >Not JUST a big tree, though. The song is about the Portmore Oak,
> >which was one of the last old growth trees left in Ireland and was
> >cut down (along with the rest of them) to build English ships (for
> >the navy) and houses for the nobility.
Yes, but the song, while lovely, has precious little application to this
episode or to the franchise, either in origin or lyric. I think the story
goes that Bill Panzer liked it, so....
Rachel--
> Good question. Was it because that was her original intent? Duncan
> could've just said the cliff gave way; I wonder why he didn't if it
> was so important?
> Even if they weren't supposed to be up on that cliff together,
> couldn't he have come up with something, even if he had to say they
> were meeting secretly? I haven't seen Homeland in a while, but Duncan
> had to tell everyone & would've been 'first to find the body', I
> think.
Debra was distraught when the scene began, so possibly other folk
snoticed--maybe she had talked of suicide publicly. She seemed somewhat
less than stable overall. If it had gotten around the village that Duncan
wasn't going to marry her after all.... Plotwise, the point was to give
Duncan a reason to search hither & yon for her grave & look sad but yummy on
horseback; had she been buried normally & on sacred ground, then her grave
would have been as simple to find as those of Duncan's parents.
Nina
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