HIGHLA-L Digest - 1 Jul 2003 to 2 Jul 2003 - Special issue (#2003-128)
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There are 19 messages totalling 827 lines in this issue.
Topics in this special issue:
1. Vendetta
2. Swords was Re: HL In The News (8)
3. Potato Gun
4. (Has some OT in it) Highlander in the news (3)
5. They Also Serve
6. Bi-Monthly Reminder
7. Question
8. Highlander in the news (3)
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Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2003 19:15:31 -0700
From: FKMel <sgt_buck_frobisher@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Vendetta
> Oodles. Lots in season 6 (something NOT to look
> forward to).
Yeah not only is there no Richie but lots of stinker
eps I hear.
Are there really all that many eps like that where he
doesn't even get into a swordfight during the ep?
>
>
>Which reminds me--can Immies ever lose weight, &
> keep it off? Wouldn't the
> fat cells just regenerate?
>
> Reminds me of something I saw that went "Brain cells
come and brain cells go but fat cells live forever."
Hmm wonder if that's a yes....LOL
Mel (I think maybe they can....they can work out and
build muscle mass...or at least get in shape...I know
that's different from losing weight but they're along
the same lines at least aren't they?)
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Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2003 19:27:10 -0700
From: FKMel <sgt_buck_frobisher@yahoo.com>
Subject: Swords was Re: HL In The News
Since this came up, I heard that it's not legal in
some places to keep a sword sharpened. How do you
think a modern day Immie would get around that? Mac's
always got his "I'm an antique dealer" cover I
suppose...and some of the kimmies probably wouldn't
give a care...but besides not getting traffic tickets
and keeping the sword stashed away where nobody will
see it, anyone got any thoughts?
It can't be easy being a modern day Immie. You can't
carry a sword in public anymore and travel's gotta be
heck. The sword can be checked in the luggage (they're
certainly not gonna need it in a crowded vehicle or
station)but I wouldn't wanna be around Mac if he lost
his bags. Yikes. And what would happen if a group were
traveling together?
Mel (and even I don't get how anyone could hide a
sword in one of those tight outfits some of the female
immies (IE Annie Devlin) wear.)
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Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2003 19:31:54 -0700
From: FKMel <sgt_buck_frobisher@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Potato Gun
I hear those guns can be dangerous, just like any gun.
There was an article in the local paper last Tuesday
about a kid who was blinded because he looked when the
thing didn't fire. (And it was live frog
inside...eeewww) They need to learn not to point it at
themselves or others I think.
My first thought with all those jokes was for some
reason Kenny. I could just see him using the old "It
doesn't work, it's broke, could you take a look?"
line, then it fires and while they're writhing around
blinded, whack. But of course Kenny'd just use a real
gun...
Mel (that *would* be scary...a miniature Xavier St
Cloud (he was having his mercinaries shoot his targers
in UH)running around....yikes.)
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Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2003 19:34:49 -0700
From: mama bear <parisrose_2@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: (Has some OT in it) Highlander in the news
:
In a message dated 7/1/2003 12:47:19 PM Pacific Standard Time,
Bizarro7@aol.com writes:
> So Billie Lee. If your officers are required to fire the Potato Guns into a
> rioting mob, must they be seasoned with Pepper Spray? Will Salt and Butter
> follow?
Is there not a book entitled:" Potatoes Not Prozac?"
While we will never know what the young man was thinking and feeling when he lost control, it is unfortunate he was not able to access a support system or be able to connect with anyone who could get him help. The list-sibs here have been an excellant support.
Parisrose (who is also an RN and former Unit Director of a big ICU. Never had real problems with our mentally ill patients or even with inmates, but the security and corrections people could be a challenge - negotiate with the negotiators, indeed)
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Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2003 19:38:54 -0700
From: FKMel <sgt_buck_frobisher@yahoo.com>
Subject: They Also Serve
I think this ep is kind of important because the stuff
comes back to haunt everyone later in Judgement Day,
One Second to Midnight and End of Innocence.
I think Mac's right about the gray areas....right and
wrong aren't always clear-cut.
I sometimes tend to overlook Joe's stuff because even
though he was helping him by giving him info on other
immies, it's not like he's disabling Mac's enemies or
leading him to them or really doing anything to give
him an unfair advantage like Roberta Luce was. But I
do see his dilemma about his friendship with Mac. And
about the other rule of getting too close to his
immie. (why was that? Too big a risk of alliances
forming and unfair advantages and stuff like that?)
Questions: Was The Colonel the only ep he flat-out
interfered in? Or were there others like that one? (as
opposed to all those eps involving help in the form of
giving chronicle info.)
How did Roberta Luce died? I checked the chronicles to
see if she got booted afterward but it said she died.
Just not how she died.
Mel (Am I making any sense at all?...lol)
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Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2003 21:56:31 -0500
From: Keith Petersen <petersenkeith@wat.midco.net>
Subject: Re: Swords was Re: HL In The News
They'd just hide them in Katana Space. :)
> Since this came up, I heard that it's not legal in
> some places to keep a sword sharpened. How do you
> think a modern day Immie would get around that?
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Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2003 20:01:42 -0700
From: Pat Lawson <plawson@webleyweb.com>
Subject: Re: Swords was Re: HL In The News
you wrote:
>Since this came up, I heard that it's not legal in
>some places to keep a sword sharpened. How do you
>think a modern day Immie would get around that?
They'd ignore the stupid law. :)
>Mac's always got his "I'm an antique dealer" cover I
>suppose...and some of the kimmies probably wouldn't
>give a care...but besides not getting traffic tickets
>and keeping the sword stashed away where nobody will
>see it, anyone got any thoughts?
Wouldn't be only the kmmies that wouldn't care. Would you if your head
were at risk?
>It can't be easy being a modern day Immie. You can't
>carry a sword in public anymore and travel's gotta be
>heck. The sword can be checked in the luggage (they're
>certainly not gonna need it in a crowded vehicle or
>station)but I wouldn't wanna be around Mac if he lost
>his bags.
Chartered plane. Would you want to risk your 200 y.o. katana to baggage
screeners? Have you seen the news reports about theft complaints?
Pat
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Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2003 21:22:04 -0700
From: FKMel <sgt_buck_frobisher@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Swords was Re: HL In The News
I should never ask these kinds of questions this late
at night. It's really not that hard even if you do get
arrested. Most Immies (well, a large number of
them....there are probably lots of exceptions) are
probably loaded. You just bail yourself out, pack your
stuff and go somewhere else to start over. No big
deal.
Mel, who agrees totally with the charter plane idea. I
guess a pilot's license could come in handy for an
Immie as long as there are no beheadings on the
tarmac....
Mel
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Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2003 21:53:39 -0700
From: "R. Shelton" <rshelton2@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: Swords was Re: HL In The News
At 09:22 PM -0700 7/1/03, FKMel wrote:
>I should never ask these kinds of questions this late at night. It's
>really not that hard even if you do get arrested.
No, this is a very valid point, Mel. Modern day Immies certainly have
to jump through more hoops to lug a sword around than their
predecessors. And not all are smart enough to be/stay rich.
>his bags. Yikes. And what would happen if a group were traveling together?
I don't think this happened much. Seems like lots of immies were kind
of loners; goes with the territory. I don't know if I remember what
the highest count of immies in one place was - was it Double
Eagle.... help! I know someone remembers (ZK? Wendy? Bueller?) <g>
>Mel (and even I don't get how anyone could hide a sword in one of
>those tight outfits some of the female immies (IE Annie Devlin)
>wear.)
Adrian's most famous con answers (like when DM was wearing the blue
blazer) for this was "Katana space" and "Danny, the prop guy!" The
series gets somewhat better about this aspect as the season's
continue.
Rachel
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Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2003 22:41:08 -0700
From: FKMel <sgt_buck_frobisher@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Swords was Re: HL In The News
Even harder: New identities. It's easy enough to go to
a forger and get a new identity created for you, but
how do you get it loaded into computers and stuff? I
think I see why Mac usually runs his own
buisnesses....I'd hate to have to try and come up with
medical records and stuff like that (credit info might
not be that hard) to get a job working for someone.
I'd much rather run my own buisness. And like someone
else said, being an antique dealer is an easy to get
rid of accumulations of stuff over the centuries.
Mel
> No, this is a very valid point, Mel. Modern day
> Immies certainly have
> to jump through more hoops to lug a sword around
> than their
> predecessors. And not all are smart enough to
> be/stay rich.
>
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Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2003 22:55:30 -0700
From: FKMel <sgt_buck_frobisher@yahoo.com>
Subject: Question
Why did HL:TS finally stop production? Actors wanting
to move on? Bad ratings?
I think I can see what a season 7 wouldn've done...it
would have probably just gotten even worse if it was
already going downhill in season 6.
Mel
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Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2003 09:13:32 +0100
From: "John Mosby (Home)" <a.j.mosby@btinternet.com>
Subject: Re: Highlander in the news
> Unless Joss has been whispering that sort of thing in your ear recently,
> then I think your breezy summation of his views on the complicated subject
> of fanfic was rather disingenuous. Basically, fanfic IS on the radar more
&
> more. That's why we had that silly article recently & also why the
> What-Spike-is-on-Angel thing came up--someone was so enamored of her
fanfic
> &/or desperate for attention (assuming those are 2 different things w/
> fanfic writers) they sent it to a particularly slipshod net news source.
>
> Nina
> mac.westie@verizon.net
>
> JOSS WHEDON: Fan fic. Utter rubbish.
> (some things just feel _right_)
Well, er, yes, actually. In fact I spoke to Joss about ten days ago. So, I
think my summation of where he stands on the subject of fan-fiction is
pretty accurate.
On this list we've covered the 'tactful ignoring' stance by many TPTB on
thousands of other posts on the matter , so we can probably sum the general
state of affairs by: 'We can't officially be seen to be endorsing, but
we'll ignore the fanfic writers as long as they don't get too loud or
disrespectful.' It's a precarious situation, garnted, but works to the
advantage of both if neither side gets too big for their boots.
And, again, - with the pesky checking of facts - to clarify how the
Spike/Angel rumour started. The premise was actually a 'pitch script' by a
professional script writer that was never meant to be circulated but
'leaked' by someone who thought it was the real thing. It wasn't 'leaked' by
the author.
Which raises that interesting dilemma doesn't it? If fan-fic writers are a
sad breed by basic definition (which I wouldn't agree with) then the next
wave of professional writers are doomed because those I know well in the
business all honed their talents doing so.
And the word was impinge. My keyboard, like others, was takign the P.
John
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Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2003 10:04:52 +0100
From: Jette Goldie <jette@blueyonder.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Highlander in the news
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Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2003 03:15:06 -0700
From: Pat Lawson <plawson@webleyweb.com>
Subject: Re: Highlander in the news
Thanks again John for the additional information and clarification.
Pat
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Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2003 06:30:40 -0400
From: Judy Schneider <judyas77@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: (Has some OT in it) Highlander in the news
>From: mama bear <parisrose_2@yahoo.com>
>In a message dated 7/1/2003 12:47:19 PM Pacific Standard Time,
>Bizarro7@aol.com writes:
>
> > So Billie Lee. If your officers are required to fire the Potato Guns
>into a
> > rioting mob, must they be seasoned with Pepper Spray? Will Salt and
>Butter
> > follow?
>
>Is there not a book entitled:" Potatoes Not Prozac?"
>
Yes, there is. 8) It's by Kathleen DesMaisons and was published around 1998
or '99. It's a 7-step diet book. 8)
Judy, the Chocolate Slayer judyas77@hotmail.com
"I never met a chocolate I didn't like"--Deanna Troi
Who is not an RN (for which patients should be grateful) but is a librarian.
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Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2003 03:56:29 -0700
From: Pat Lawson <plawson@webleyweb.com>
Subject: Re: Swords was Re: HL In The News
FKMel wrote:
>Even harder: New identities. It's easy enough to go to
>a forger and get a new identity created for you, but
>how do you get it loaded into computers and stuff? I
>think I see why Mac usually runs his own
>buisnesses....I'd hate to have to try and come up with
>medical records and stuff like that (credit info might
>not be that hard) to get a job working for someone.
>I'd much rather run my own buisness. And like someone
>else said, being an antique dealer is an easy to get
>rid of accumulations of stuff over the centuries.
I wonder if immies would migrate toward less developed, less bureaucratic
areas of the world. Or is it easier hide in a large, busy city?
Make friends with hackers or learn some hacking skills themselves?
Bribe people?
Pat
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Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2003 08:00:45 EDT
From: Bizarro7@aol.com
Subject: Re: (Has some OT in it) Highlander in the news
...Er, it really shouldn't have, but it occurred to me; if you're shot by a
potato gun in combat, are you taken to a M*A*S*H unit...?
*OWWW!* Who threw that?
Leah
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Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2003 08:02:09 EDT
From: Bizarro7@aol.com
Subject: Re: Swords was Re: HL In The News
In a message dated 7/2/2003 6:56:55 AM Eastern Standard Time,
plawson@webleyweb.com writes:
> >Even harder: New identities. It's easy enough to go to
> >a forger and get a new identity created for you, but
> >how do you get it loaded into computers and stuff? I
> >think I see why Mac usually runs his own
> >buisnesses....I'd hate to have to try and come up with
> >medical records and stuff like that (credit info might
> >not be that hard) to get a job working for someone.
> >I'd much rather run my own buisness. And like someone
> >else said, being an antique dealer is an easy to get
> >rid of accumulations of stuff over the centuries
This was dealt with, to some degree, on FOREVER KNIGHT. It was implied that
one (and possibly more) vampires were specialists at forging replacement
identities and the necessary paperwork for them to continue their immortal
existence.
Leah
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End of HIGHLA-L Digest - 1 Jul 2003 to 2 Jul 2003 - Special issue (#2003-128)
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