HIGHLA-L Digest - 19 May 2003 to 20 May 2003 (#2003-83)

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      Topics of the day:
      
        1. The Darkness--what he said (2)
        2. AP pix
        3. Old age (9)
        4. Combined thoughts on yesterday's and today's eps
      
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      Date:    Mon, 19 May 2003 16:04:03 -1000
      From:    MacWestie <mac.westie@verizon.net>
      Subject: The Darkness--what he said
      
      Should have posted this earlier, in light of all the folks seeing this ep
      for the 1st time on TNN.  (And TNN showing HL an hour earlier today w/ zero
      warning was just rude.)
      
      In the tag, Duncan said to Richie--"Sell it."  He meant that Richie should
      sell the antique store/apartment.  NOT the T-Bird.
      
      And, apparently RR actually DID sell the store/apt., because you won't be
      seeing it again.  (Odd, really--that RR should do what DM told him to
      do--could be the 1st & last time THAT happened. Bet he made a sucker's deal
      on it.)
      
      And, in HL land, today is Oct. 23, 1993--the date Tessa died according to
      various sources.
      
      Nina (people often think DM meant that RR should sell the car, because of
      the keys...my mom thought DM said--"Seven." but she was too teary from the
      montage to care...did HL do _any_ ADR?)
      mac.westie@verizon.net
      
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      Date:    Mon, 19 May 2003 19:36:13 -0700
      From:    FKMel <sgt_buck_frobisher@yahoo.com>
      Subject: Re: The Darkness--what he said
      
      --- MacWestie <mac.westie@VERIZON.NET> wrote:
      > Should have posted this earlier, in light of all the
      > folks seeing this ep
      > for the 1st time on TNN.  (And TNN showing HL an
      > hour earlier today w/ zero
      > warning was just rude.)
      
      I have to agree...it's not all that bad a slot for me,
      but they could've at least warned us first. Good thing
      I looked at the onscreen guide Saturday morning and
      found it out.
      >
      > In the tag, Duncan said to Richie--"Sell it."  He
      > meant that Richie should
      > sell the antique store/apartment.  NOT the T-Bird.
      
      I only had brief thoughts of that...I knew it wasn't
      the car 'cause it's in the later eps.
      
      Why'd he sell it (the store) anyway? Because even
      though he had a lot of good memories there, it was too
      full of memories to let him move on and start over? I
      kinda thought that even before seeing the ep.
      
      > my mom thought DM said--"Seven." but she
      > was too teary from the
      > montage to care...did HL do _any_ ADR?)
      
      
      What's ADR?
      
      Mel, who's *still* teary-eyed every time she thinks
      about the ep
      
      =====
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      Date:    Tue, 20 May 2003 09:15:37 -1000
      From:    MacWestie <mac.westie@verizon.net>
      Subject: AP pix
      
      Go here & type Adrian Paul in the search box for some nice pix of him at the
      recent Saturn awards, plus shots going back a couple years.
      http://www.dailyceleb.com/home/
      
      Or, forget the search box & click on the icon for Saturn Awards--AP's
      several shots top the page, as they are set up alphabetically by 1st name.
      Scroll down a bit & note that AP & the also-luscious Ben Browder seem to
      have shared clothing for the evening.  (Which explains the unusually good
      taste AP displayed.)
      
      Also, wire image has oodles of pix, too, though they are wee--
      www.wireimage.com
      
      Nina
      mac.westie@verizon.net
      
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      Date:    Tue, 20 May 2003 16:20:22 EDT
      From:    Robin Tidwell <Robinchristine79@aol.com>
      Subject: Old age
      
      Sorry if this has been asked before, but a person discovers that he/she is
      immortal when they die, right. So what happens if they don't get
      stabbed/shot/killed and they live to the ripe old age of 98 or so. I guess
      they would be the first to lose their heads, huh.
      
      Robin
      robinchristine79@aol.com
      
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      Date:    Tue, 20 May 2003 16:37:20 -0400
      From:    Bizarro7@aol.com
      Subject: Re: Old age
      
      The canonical implication has been that...
      
      a) A pre-Immortal becomes Immortal as a result of a 'violent' death (although I still maintain that the 'violent' part was added later, to fit the plot on RAVEN, and justify Amanda's shooting of Nick).
      
      B) You can become Immortal at any age. Which does indeed imply that elderly or incapacitated Immies are dispatched quickly by Kimmies on the Game. We saw the little drummer-boy Immie get whacked in a Civil War flashback. It's an unpleasant thought, but the HL universe sets up the possibility of baby and toddlier Immies, which are presumably picked off by Kimmies...or well-meaning Immies who are doubtless tormented by what they feel is a necessity.
      
      But it's a fictional universe that has often violated its OWN canon and redesigned itself several times, so you can't take the rules seriously to the point of mania.
      
      Leah
      
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      Date:    Tue, 20 May 2003 16:39:06 -0400
      From:    Sandy Fields <diamonique@comcast.net>
      Subject: Re: Old age
      
      At 04:20 PM 05/20/2003 -0400, Robin Tidwell wrote:
      >Sorry if this has been asked before, but a person discovers that he/she is
      >immortal when they die, right. So what happens if they don't get
      >stabbed/shot/killed and they live to the ripe old age of 98 or so. I guess
      >they would be the first to lose their heads, huh.
      
      I've kinda sorta decided that *only* a violent death will bring out the
      person's immortality.  A person who lived to a ripe old age and dying of
      natural causes would just be dead.
      
      All of the immies in the show whose deaths we were told about had died by
      some kind of violence, and we never saw any really old (physically) immies.
      
      -- Sandy
      
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      Date:    Tue, 20 May 2003 17:06:58 EDT
      From:    Brian Smith <ShadowPK@aol.com>
      Subject: Re: Old age
      
      In a message dated 5/20/03 4:39:56 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
      diamonique@comcast.net writes:
      
      > All of the immies in the show whose deaths we were told about had died by
      > some kind of violence, and we never saw any really old (physically) immies.
      >
      
      Cause they all got whacked too fast ;).
      
      Bri
      
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      Date:    Tue, 20 May 2003 17:43:50 -0400
      From:    Sandy Fields <diamonique@comcast.net>
      Subject: Re: Old age
      
      At 04:37 PM 5/20/2003, Bizarro7@aol.com wrote:
      >The canonical implication has been that...
      >
      >a) A pre-Immortal becomes Immortal as a result of a 'violent' death
      >(although I still maintain that the 'violent' part was added later, to fit
      >the plot on RAVEN, and justify Amanda's shooting of Nick).
      
      But...  but... we were discussing this LONG before Raven, and many of us
      (not all, but many) came to that conclusion a long time ago.  I don't know
      if TPTB ever really added the violent part.  I've only heard it from
      fans.  It just seemed to fit everything we had seen on the series.  Did
      TPTB ever mention it?
      
      Oh wait... I see what you mean.  That gawdawful plot in Raven did sort of
      make it canon that an immie had to die a violent death.  I wonder if the
      violent death thing had been considered canon by TPTB all along (since
      everything in HLTS seemed to indicate this was so)... or if they just
      decided on it when they wrote the last Raven ep.  The former makes more
      sense to me.
      
      
      >But it's a fictional universe that has often violated its OWN canon and
      >redesigned itself several times, so you can't take the rules seriously to
      >the point of mania.
      
      Ain't *that* the truth!
      
      -- Sandy (Duncan had a wife?)
      
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      Date:    Tue, 20 May 2003 15:49:50 -0700
      From:    FKMel <sgt_buck_frobisher@yahoo.com>
      Subject: Re: Old age
      
      It just seemed to fit everything we had seen
      > on the series.  Did
      > TPTB ever mention it?
      
      Yeah, in Highlander: Endgame, though lots of us tend
      to ignore that one. During Conner and Mac's little
      chat about Kate/Faith, one of the said that it could
      only be activated by the pain of a violent death,
      otherwise she would grow old and die like anyone else.
      >
      > >
      >
      > >But it's a fictional universe that has often
      > violated its OWN canon and
      > >redesigned itself several times, so you can't take
      > the rules seriously to
      > >the point of mania.
      >
      > Ain't *that* the truth!
      >
      > -- Sandy (Duncan had a wife?)
      
      
      I see your point. They probably altered it later to
      make Kate/Faith fit the picture. Unless he was
      deciding to keep it to himself, he said in yesterday's
      ep he was never married.
      
      Like I said, Endgame wasn't exactly all that great,
      and we may be better off to just ignore all the films
      except the first one.
      
      (But I do have to say one thing: Endgame had a GREAT
      love scene. Gotta love all those sweatly, glisteny
      rippling muscles, and that butt, and all that
      nakedness.....YUMMMMMMMMM!!!!!!Hey, did it just get
      really really hot in here *fans away the smoke*)
      
      Mel
      
      
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      Date:    Tue, 20 May 2003 15:57:53 -0700
      From:    FKMel <sgt_buck_frobisher@yahoo.com>
      Subject: Combined thoughts on yesterday's and today's eps
      
      I was thinking back over yesterday's ep and it occured
      to me that Richie was lucky no one saw him. Someone
      had to have called the police eventually, and he was
      just lucky there didn't appear to be any eyewitnesses
      who saw the shooting. I think, though, that there
      would've been time to get him out of there before the
      cops came, so as long as no one saw it, he'd be okay.
      
      I've seen today's ep several times before, so I
      noticed the cut early on. After Richie gets pummeled
      by Mac, he gets up to leave, and they cut the part
      where he gets his bag and says he's going to 'my
      place, the zoo, any place there's no mat for you to
      dump me on'.
      
      Darn TNN! I'm glad they're airing them, but I hate
      when they cut stuff. Isn't it bad enough we don't get
      the Eurominutes?
      
      Mel
      
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      Date:    Tue, 20 May 2003 18:59:30 EDT
      From:    Dawn Lehman <USTADAWN@aol.com>
      Subject: Re: Old age
      
      In a message dated 5/20/2003 5:51:43 PM Eastern Standard Time,
      diamonique@comcast.net writes:
      
      > But...  but... we were discussing this LONG before Raven, and many of us
      > (not all, but many) came to that conclusion a long time ago.  I don't know
      > if TPTB ever really added the violent part.  I've only heard it from
      > fans.  It just seemed to fit everything we had seen on the series.  Did
      > TPTB ever mention it?
      >
      
      Yes, I think that it was mentioned in the episode with Rae Dawn Chong (one of
      my Favorites; I think it was called Chilvary????) anyway, Duncan and Methos
      was talking about Rae Dawn's character becoming an immie;  Duncan mentioned
      the fact that she had to die a violent death before "emerging."
      
      Ciao paesanos
      
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      Date:    Tue, 20 May 2003 19:02:42 -0400
      From:    Sandy Fields <diamonique@comcast.net>
      Subject: Re: Old age
      
      At 06:49 PM 5/20/2003, FKMel wrote:
      >I see your point. They probably altered it later to
      >make Kate/Faith fit the picture. Unless he was
      >deciding to keep it to himself, he said in yesterday's
      >ep he was never married.
      
      That was a stated "fact" throughout the series.  It was part of the
      romance/sadness of the show.  Good, gorgeous guy with an unimaginable life
      span and never marrying.  It was there in almost every episode even though
      it wasn't spoken.
      
      
      >Like I said, Endgame wasn't exactly all that great, and we may be better
      >off to just ignore all the films except the first one.
      
      Sounds like a good idea to me. :-)
      
      
      >(But I do have to say one thing: Endgame had a GREAT
      >love scene. Gotta love all those sweatly, glisteny
      >rippling muscles, and that butt, and all that
      >nakedness.....YUMMMMMMMMM!!!!!!Hey, did it just get
      >really really hot in here *fans away the smoke*)
      
      You had to remind me of *that*?!?!  Now I'm having a hot flash!!
      
      -- Sandy (*great* love scene!)
      
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      Date:    Tue, 20 May 2003 21:20:36 EDT
      From:    lynnann Ward <LynnannCDC@aol.com>
      Subject: Re: Old age
      
      In a message dated 5/20/03 5:03:45 PM Mountain Daylight Time,
      USTADAWN@aol.com writes:
      
      
      > Yes, I think that it was mentioned in the episode with Rae Dawn Chong (one
      > of
      > my Favorites; I think it was called Chilvary????) anyway, Duncan and Methos
      > was talking about Rae Dawn's character becoming an immie;  Duncan mentioned
      > the fact that she had to die a violent death before "emerging."
      >
      
      It was "Timeless"
      
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