HIGHLA-L Digest - 10 Sep 2001 to 11 Sep 2001 (#2001-261)
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Topics of the day:
1. Temporary new/old website for PEACE fanclub
2. HL5 Rumour (5)
3. Not science fiction (2)
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Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 01:03:43 EDT
From: Dotiran@aol.com
Subject: Temporary new/old website for PEACE fanclub
This posted on the AOL board:
Subject: Peace-APFC website
Date: 9/10/2001 12:58 PM US Eastern Standard Time
From: <A HREF="aol://3548:PEACE APFC">PEACE APFC</A>
Message-id: <20010910135808.05079.00000860@mb-cv.aol.com>
We have just changed the index page of our former site at <A HREF="http://members.aol.com/PEACEAPFC/">
http://members.aol.com/PEACEAPFC/</A> to reflect a new page. For the time being,
we will be posting club information to the above site. Please repost this
information to any other board, forum or group who might be interested.
MP
Please visit our website at <A HREF="http://members.aol.com/PEACEAPFC/index.html">http://members.aol.com/PEACEAPFC/index.html</A>
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Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 04:55:50 -0400
From: Elaine Nicol <ElaineN@compuserve.com>
Subject: Re: HL5 Rumour
>> Well yeah. I agree, but that's not really the point. The movie that
was released is the one that counts, and it was pretty bad. <<
Well then that's okay, because the movie that was released in the UK is the
DVD version, because nothing else has ever been released here. Of course
it could be that you don't count us. <EG>
>> If the DVD version had been the one that was released in theaters, the
thought of another movie might have put a smile on my face instead of
making me want to kick something. :-) <<
Which is exactly the point I was making.
If they had rushed the movie out had delayed it's release a few more months
even although the fans were screaming at them then we'd maybe have got the
better version.<sigh>
Elaine.
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Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 04:55:51 -0400
From: Elaine Nicol <ElaineN@compuserve.com>
Subject: Re: HL5 Rumour
>> It was called Endgame, but there wasn't end to the Game, unless you were
Connor, I'd guess. <<
Could be the very point since it was supposed to be about Connor passing
the Highlander torch to Duncan.
>> It had a trailer built around scenes not intended to be in the film <<
A normal thing that movie companies do. I don't agree with it but they do.
>> The press notes were wrong <<
Ah another not unusual occurrence. I've just been reading the Press stuff
for Galaxy Quest, about Robin Sachs it says 'He also starred in such BBC
classics as "Upstairs Downstairs," "Brideshead Revisited," and "Rumpole of
the Bailey," among many others.' Now that may sound okay, but everyone of
those series were made by ITV companies and had nothing whatsoever to do
with the BBC. And that is just one example there are dozens.
>> The editing was screwed up. <<
That's sloppy and should never have happened, well beyond the occasional
silly thing so we can talk about it later.
>> Naturally, they blamed the critics. <<
Well to be honest that's lame, apart from anything else any movie fan who
goes to movies on the yes or no of a critic is just plain silly.
I read critics, if they agree with my view then they are great if they
don't then they are just stupid.<only kidding> Critics are there to give
their opinion of a movie if you have the same taste as they have then you
will agree with them. We have a critic here called Barry Norman -
Generally if he likes a movie then I will hate it, if he hates it I will
like it. He can still be very entertaining to read. Yes some critics
think they can make or break a movie but it's the paying public who do
that. Well when they get the chance.
>> Next time, make the film YOU want to make and then present it to us,
standing by what you claim on release <<
Actually I do agree with that completely. I hate all this tinkering with
existing movies, not just with Highlander. By all means if you are
releasing a DVD, put two versions on there, but generally speaking I want
the version I saw first that's why I am buying it. Giving me interviews,
behind the scenes stuff but give me the version I wanted in the first
place.
>>
And 'The Source'? Ohhhhhhhhhh puhleeeeeeeease. I can't think of a single
conitation of that title that doesn't make me want to cry. <<
Again that just personal taste4, as I say I like it.
Elaine.
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Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 04:55:55 -0400
From: Elaine Nicol <ElaineN@compuserve.com>
Subject: Re: HL5 Rumour
>> There was no "game" at all. We might argue that the Watchers were
playing with everyone......but I somehow doubt that was what TPTB meant. <<
Actually I just thought they were all playing games, well except Duncan who
didn't appear to know what was going on at all.
>> That's pushing it <g> especially since there were no MacLeods in
"Raven". And...Amanda wasn't a Viking. Nick didn't strike me as the Nordic
type, either <<
Well of course it is and that's what I was doing...if you try hard enough
you can connect anything to anything and it can be fun evil twisted fun but
fun<EG>
>> excavating a tel in the Middle East and will uncover - slowly, layer by
layer- the life story of Methos.<g> <<
Now that could be a movie worth watching.<BG>
Elaine.
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Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 09:42:58 EDT
From: Bizarro7@aol.com
Subject: Re: HL5 Rumour
In a message dated 9/7/01 2:00:02 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
renmacwow@hotmail.com writes:
<< Bill Panzer did "mention" it at Reunion.........actually, I was sitting in
the lobby of the hotel when he arrived, and one of the people I was with said
hello to him, and he walked over to talk to us for a moment. About the third
or fourth sentence into the brief conversation was "You know we're working on
a new movie, don't you?" I said (incredulously, I might add) "A Highlander
Movie?" He said "Yeah, working title is 'The Source.'" I asked if this was a
"non-disclosure" conversation and he said "No." I really don't know what that
was all about, but I can say that I heard it from the horse's mouth (so to
speak........) >>
Despite what many thought of the movie (I happened to like quite a bit of
it), ENDGAME made a ton of money in VHS/DVD release. This is the motivation
behind MIRAMAX's decision to fund a new one...an offer that was made by the
studio, not Davis/Panzer, and not to be taken lightly. As for everyone's
comments about the hopelessness of a quality sequel after a crappy film, I
have only 7 words: STAR TREK 2: THE WRATH OF KAHN. Writing is everything.
Leah CWPack
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Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 10:20:39 -0400
From: Janeen Grohsmeyer <darkpanther@erols.com>
Subject: Re: HL5 Rumour
Leah wrote about the movie HL4:
>I happened to like quite a bit of it
I thought there were bits in it that were worthwhile, but for me, they
didn't constitute the majority of the screen time.
>Writing is everything.
>
While this is true in printed work, and writing is certainly important for
films and TV shows, I've gotten the impression from Donna and Gillian (the
writers for the series) that a lot of other factors are required for a story
to make a successful transition from script to screen. Acting, costumes,
filming and editing, music, the budget, the weather, the locations, the
actors' schedules, and a whole host of various other things all play their
parts.
Wasn't poor editing blamed for some of the problems in the original release
of EndGame?
Elaine wrote:
>The movie that was released in the UK is the
>DVD version, because nothing else has ever been released here. Of course
>it could be that you don't count us. <EG>
I don't think anyone on any HL list can ever not count Scotland. :) But as
far as the critics and the non-HL-fan public are concerned, the film
released to the movie theatres was *the* film. That's the one most people
will think of (If they remember it at all) when they hear the words
"Highlander: Endgame."
That's the film people were thinking of when they asked me in disbelief:
"You *like* this show?" and I got to explain how, really, the TV show wasn't
like that, and the plots sometimes actually made sense, and there was a lot
more to Highlander than what showed up in the movie, and yes, Duncan, really
*is* a nice guy, even if he does kill his teacher and his wife, and see,
there's this thing called a Game and a Prize, and the Watchers are these
people who ... oh, heck. Here, borrow these tapes of the Series. They'll
explain it, and then maybe you can watch the movie and have some clue about
what is going on.
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"There are no short stories. All stories (long or short) are part of a
longer one." Ursula K. LeGuin
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Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 10:28:06 EDT
From: Degruy@aol.com
Subject: Not science fiction
But for real. =A0Terrorism knows no boundaries. =A0Not age, not race, not se=
xual=20
preference, not religion.
"I grieve with thee." - T'Pau
Edward deGruy
Student of Humanity
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Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 17:05:17 +0100
From: Jette Goldie <jette@blueyonder.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Not science fiction
>>But for real. Terrorism knows no boundaries. Not age, not race, not sexual
preference, not religion.
"I grieve with thee." - T'Pau<<
There is nothing else to be said.
Jette (crying)
Glory may be fleeting, but obscurity is forever!
jette@blueyonder.co.uk
http://www.jette.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/fanfic.html
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