HIGHLA-L Digest - 21 Mar 2006 to 22 Mar 2006 (#2006-66)
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There are 11 messages totalling 486 lines in this issue.
Topics of the day:
1. No longer really Re: HLWW, Carmel and Cons...
2. HLWW, Carmel and Cons... (2)
3. *blink* (2)
4. *blink*---which post contains many POSSIBLE Source Spoilelrs (5)
5. DEBBIE!!! WHERE FOR ART THOU OH DEBBIE?!
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Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 20:35:45 -0800
From: Doctor Fan-Geek <doctor_fangeek@yahoo.com>
Subject: No longer really Re: HLWW, Carmel and Cons...
I am still subscribed to the list, but hadn't really
been following it for quite a while (other fandoms
calling, moving from Princeton, NJ to Memphis, TN, and
then back up to Northeast PA in the span of a little
over a year, etc.). I've been reading the digests
just recently, though, and tonight stumbled upon:
> Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 00:21:20 -0500
> From: Julie Beamer <jbeamer@infionline.net>
> Subject: Re: HLWW, Carmel and Cons...
>
> Ginny wrote:
>
> > One of my tapes includes an unnamed episode of
> > Forever Knight... but it
> > is labeled "Julie Beamer, Dead Hooker." Good
> > times.
>
> Good times indeed. My five minutes of fame (okay, 3
> and a half minutes of
> air time before I was whacked). Linda and Lisa
> followed, but I was the
> first. BTW, the episode title was "A Fate Worse
> Than Death".
>
> Back to the Geezer Porch,
>
> Julie
> Founding Geezer, Dead Hooker, etc.
Ah yes, the librarian who was a dead hooker, the (what
was Linda W. doing back then?) who was a dead
molecular biologist, and the molecular biologist who
was a regression hypnotherapist. My character
actually lived through the whole episode, though,
alas, that decreased the number of times they said my
name during the episode (called "Francesca," btw).
Continuing the trip down memory lane, an East Coast
Syndicon happened right after "my" episode of FK
aired, and the writer (Gillian Horvath) and director
(Nigel Bennett) were guests, so they showed the
episode and had a Q&A afterward (the rest of the con
was all HL guests). Later some random guy stopped me
by a Coke machine in the hotel to ask if I was "Lisa
Kadlec," and could I sign something or other because
his significant other was a huge FK fan. Bizarre.
And now I shall amble back to the Geezer Porch to
reminisce with Julie (hi, Julie!)
Lisa
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Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 06:42:35 +0200
From: TMar <tmar@polka.co.za>
Subject: Re: HLWW, Carmel and Cons...
Wendy wrote:
Lots of stuff about Farscape.
I totally agree. Someone check if it's snowing. :)
>( I kind of miss Braca.)
Me too. Wasn't it cool in TPW when he was fighting the Scarrans in that
ship?
WAY cool.
I wasn't unhappy with the ending either, but I still miss D'Argo.
- Marina.
\\ "I think somewhere on the road to reality, ||>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> //
// you took a left turn." - Nowhere Man || R I C H I E >> \\
\\===============tmar@polka.co.za==============||>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> //
//===Chief Flag Waver and Defender of Richie===||````````````````\\
Wesley: What about the fact they thought we were gay?
Angel: Adds mystery.
"Expecting" (Angel)
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Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 03:31:50 -0600
From: Kamil <kamilaa@gmail.com>
Subject: *blink*
I just looked over hl_flash's (LJ comm) collection of Source spoilers.
Apparently the people there who were in Leeds were in a Leeds existing
in a parallel Leeds from the ones here - because -
*MAJOR SPOILERS* THREE SPACES BELOW - RUN FOR YOUR LIFE RIGHT NOW OR
BE FOREVER SILENT:
Why has no one mentioned Methos is dying, Duncan is becoming mortal
(apparently they were serious about that Prize thing) and, apparently
fathering a son named Connor - who somehow becomes immortal himself
and is, ta da! the new Highlander.
*cue the series currently being pitched and the next two movies also
being planned*
No one tells us anything these days . . .
linkage to the conversations and the spoilers:
http://community.livejournal.com/hl_flash/20026.html
Good. God.
--
Kamil
"Om mani padme hum...
Nothing to see here. And I'm not even breaking a sweat. I can ignore
stupid til the cows come home."
keerawa
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Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 07:53:48 EST
From: Dotiran@aol.com
Subject: Re: *blink*---which post contains many POSSIBLE Source Spoilelrs
In a message dated 3/22/2006 4:33:42 AM US Eastern Standard Time,
kamilaa@gmail.com writes:
http://community.livejournal.com/hl_flash/20026.html
Oh for heavens sake. An old synopsis based on the original draft script by
Soisson which Adrian Paul rejected and was then rewritten by Watkins and then
Briggs all of which Adrian Paul rejected as he called in David Abramowitz is
made to sound "real" and people are freaking out. As for me, I'm going to
withhold both my ire and my opinions until I've seen the movie.
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Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 08:59:12 -0500
From: Wendy <Immortals_Incorporated@cox.net>
Subject: Re: *blink*
Kamil reports:
> *MAJOR SPOILERS* THREE SPACES BELOW - RUN FOR YOUR LIFE RIGHT
> NOW OR BE FOREVER SILENT:
>
>
>
Wow. Either someone is messing with our minds by putting out really bad
fanfic under the name "Bill Panzer" or Bill Panzer finally drank enough
to put holes in his brain. That synopsis can not be real. It has to be
either an old first draft done by Bill Panzer's cat or by someone who
really really hates Highlander<eg>
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> Why has no one mentioned Methos is dying,
I could handle Methos dying if the plot really warranted it. But dying
as just one of a group trying to assail a position seems so
un-Methos-like.
> Duncan is becoming mortal (apparently they were serious about that
Prize thing)
Been there, done that. Connor became mortal. Didn't last.
>and, apparently fathering a son named Connor
Will the son be played by Chris Lambert or Vincent Kartheiser?
>- who somehow becomes immortal himself and is, ta da! the new
Highlander.
Nice. Full gagging circle!
> *cue the series currently being pitched and the next two
> movies also being planned*
I prefer the part where the "Source" (which is a column of light or a
disembodied voice)(Well, not really disembodied since it borrows the
voice of Duncan's mortal true love Katia )(The true love whose
disappearence robs Duncna of his will to live) created Immortals as a
gift to humans - since humans die too fast to accumulate real knowledge.
Immortals live many lifetimes and gain experience from Quickening and
can be a help to mortals. Guess someone should have mentioned that to
the Immortals - who seem pretty uninterested (as a whole) in helping
mortals. Not to mention that whole lack of access to the knowledge
"gained" in a Quickening and the whole TCBOO mentality that works
against peaceful pursuit of knowledge.
> Good. God.
If I believed it, I would be worried. But TPTB wouldn't be so stupid.
Wendy(And I said that with a straight face.)
Immortals Inc.
immortals_incorporated@cox.net
"Weasels for Eternity"
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Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 09:25:55 -0500
From: Wendy <Immortals_Incorporated@cox.net>
Subject: Re: *blink*---which post contains many POSSIBLE Source Spoilelrs
Rottie is reassuring:
> Oh for heavens sake. An old synopsis based on the original
> draft script by Soisson which Adrian Paul rejected and was
> then rewritten by Watkins and then Briggs all of which
> Adrian Paul rejected as he called in David Abramowitz is
> made to sound "real" and people are freaking out.
The nice thing about having old drafts is that we can compare the draft
to the actual movie when it is released. Only then does one find out if
all the talk about "rejecting" old scripts is true or whether only
tweaking occurred.
Some things have already changed ... Katia is now Anna. That's a major
change because no one named Katia in a HL movie could be good. The Rule
of K's would apply.
A) Some things seem to be the same:
Duncan wandering a crumbling city.
Duncan mourning a lost love.
A quest to find the Source.
Monks.
Dead Dawson.
The Guardian guarding the Source.
B) Things left in question is:
Dead Methos?
Column of liquid fire Source?
Actual benign reason for Immortals to exist?
Duncan mortal?
Duncan a dad?
Time will tell just how "off" this supposed synopsis is.
Wendy(I can't remember if the Immortal priest/cardinal and the grossly
old/fat Immortal were shown in tape in Leeds or not.)(If "yes", they go
in Column A)(If "no" they go in Column B.)(I'll take an egg roll with
that too)
Immortals Inc.
immortals_incorporated@cox.net
"Weasels for Eternity"
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Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 11:21:48 EST
From: Highlandmg@aol.com
Subject: Re: HLWW, Carmel and Cons...
Hi
I have not read all the treads in this heading.as I am still in Scotland.
But for me going to cons and Carmel and committeee tours offfers me a chance to
meet Friends some I think as of family to go see places I would never see.
Its too bad others do not see it as that. Yes the Highlander factor is this.
But it the friends that I could never get to see if it was not for Carmel and
committee. I am forever greatful for that. I have meet a bunch of new friends
on the Scotland tour. I know the hard work the Carmel and commitee have done
to make this happen with out a hitch. I am thrilled that I can go on these
tours to meet new and old frioend. Its too bad people as so bitter because
other people are enjoying life with hundreds of friends. The con was wonderful
but the Scotland tour was outstanding. To witness Adrian be some relaxed with
the fans and really enjoy him self was a highlight. The trip from Leeds to
Glenfinnden will always be a great experence as we had quite an odyssey.
Love
Mary Not in Oz but still in Scotland
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Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 19:52:00 +0200
From: TMar <tmar@polka.co.za>
Subject: Re: *blink*---which post contains many POSSIBLE Source Spoilelrs
Wendy wrote:
>Time will tell just how "off" this supposed synopsis is.
I think the only question is, do any of us even care?
- Marina. (I sounded like Nina there.) (Heaven help us all.)
\\ "I think somewhere on the road to reality, ||>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> //
// you took a left turn." - Nowhere Man || R I C H I E >> \\
\\===============tmar@polka.co.za==============||>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> //
//===Chief Flag Waver and Defender of Richie===||````````````````\\
Wesley: What about the fact they thought we were gay?
Angel: Adds mystery.
"Expecting" (Angel)
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Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 14:17:17 -0500
From: Wendy <Immortals_Incorporated@cox.net>
Subject: Re: *blink*---which post contains many POSSIBLE Source Spoilelrs
I wrote:
> >Time will tell just how "off" this supposed synopsis is.
Nina ... I mean... Marina says:
> I think the only question is, do any of us even care?
I think it is the fact that many of us *do* care that gives lie to the
accusation that we (some of us) are just bored, belligerent bitches
whose only fun in life is tormenting the souls who are trapped in this
leaderless hell dimension. <eg>
I *do* care. I want the next HL movie to be *great*. I hope that it
will be at least *good*. However, the "benefit of the doubt" well ran
dry a long time ago. Now they have to prove it to me...now they have to
woo me...now they have to show me that they can be trusted not to cut my
Highlander-loving heart out and stomp on it *again*. Seeing a script
synopsis like the one Kamil linked to - even if it is an early script
and only partially true now - shows me that the chance of another bloody
awful movie is far greater than the chance for a good, never mind great,
movie.
Wendy( Looking that that synopsis, I have to ask, what they hell is
wrong with TPTB?)( These people produced week after week of excellent
stories.)(They produced more than a few 2-part stories that add up to
movie length plots.)(Why do they find writing one damn good movie so
hard?)(::::takes a deep breath::::)(:::::Going to my happy place::::)
Immortals Inc.
immortals_incorporated@cox.net
"Weasels for Eternity"
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Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 09:58:43 -1000
From: MacWestie <mac.westie@verizon.net>
Subject: Re: *blink*---which post contains many POSSIBLE Source Spoilelrs
Rottie--
> As for me, I'm going to
> withhold both my ire and my opinions until I've seen the movie.
Slacker.
Wendy--
>>>Either someone is messing with our minds by putting out really bad
fanfic under the name "Bill Panzer" or Bill Panzer finally drank enough
to put holes in his brain. That synopsis can not be real. It has to be
either an old first draft done by Bill Panzer's cat >>>
Don't be silly--any cat would do better than that. I think you were right
about Panzer's brain, though--this has his drunken fingerprints all over it.
>Time will tell just how "off" this supposed synopsis is.
Well, in the meantime, history tells us something. We got the same song &
dance when an "early" Endgame script was leaked, & it turned out to be VERY
close to the dren that hit the theaters.
>>>I think it is the fact that many of us *do* care that gives lie to the
accusation that we (some of us) are just bored, belligerent bitches
whose only fun in life is tormenting the souls who are trapped in this
leaderless hell dimension. <eg> >>>
Here, here. I, for one, am not JUST a bored, belligerent bitch whose only
fun in life is tormenting the souls who are trapped in this leaderless hell
dimension. I also enjoy tormenting souls elsewhere. I have facets.
Nina (HLTS season sux--fool me once, shame on you) (Raven--fool me twice,
shame on me) (Endgame--fool me thrice, never trust you sorry hacks again)
mac.westie@verizon.net
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Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 23:27:58 +0000
From: Earl Heinrich <eheinr007@comcast.net>
Subject: DEBBIE!!! WHERE FOR ART THOU OH DEBBIE?!
Her Weaselness has compared HIGLA-L to a "leaderless hell dimension" and YOU have been referred to as "her listlessness." Are you going to take this lying down or come out of the closet and do something about this?! I'm not sure if your strategy (absence makes the heart grow fonder) is working. We'd better be careful not to let the TPTB at psu.edu know this is a "leaderless hell dimension" (or is that the Final Dimension) or they might chop our heads off!
BTW, I understand the list died and was reborn from the ashes like the Phoenix at some point? And DEBBIE hasn't been heard from since?! And where are all the old archives (i.e. covered in a decade of dust and ferret fur), espcially those about weasel poking.
Earl J. Heinrich
Adler Graduate School Library
Going up to the Geezer Porch to talk to the Automation Librarian
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From: Wendy <Immortals_Incorporated@COX.NET>
> I wrote:
> > >Time will tell just how "off" this supposed synopsis is.
>
> Nina ... I mean... Marina says:
> > I think the only question is, do any of us even care?
>
> I think it is the fact that many of us *do* care that gives lie to the
> accusation that we (some of us) are just bored, belligerent bitches
> whose only fun in life is tormenting the souls who are trapped in this
> leaderless hell dimension.
>
> I *do* care. I want the next HL movie to be *great*. I hope that it
> will be at least *good*. However, the "benefit of the doubt" well ran
> dry a long time ago. Now they have to prove it to me...now they have to
> woo me...now they have to show me that they can be trusted not to cut my
> Highlander-loving heart out and stomp on it *again*. Seeing a script
> synopsis like the one Kamil linked to - even if it is an early script
> and only partially true now - shows me that the chance of another bloody
> awful movie is far greater than the chance for a good, never mind great,
> movie.
>
> Wendy( Looking that that synopsis, I have to ask, what they hell is
> wrong with TPTB?)( These people produced week after week of excellent
> stories.)(They produced more than a few 2-part stories that add up to
> movie length plots.)(Why do they find writing one damn good movie so
> hard?)(::::takes a deep breath::::)(:::::Going to my happy place::::)
>
>
> Immortals Inc.
> immortals_incorporated@cox.net
> "Weasels for Eternity"
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