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      Topics in this special issue:
      
        1. Source SPOILERS--possibly (6)
        2. HLWW, Carmel and Cons... (7)
        3. Debbie? Debbie? RE: HL Alum HI Debbie!!
        4. HEY DEBBIE!!!  Was:  Re: HLWW, Carmel and Cons...
      
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      Date:    Mon, 13 Mar 2006 23:41:04 -0500
      From:    Wendy <Immortals_Incorporated@cox.net>
      Subject: Re: Source SPOILERS--possibly
      
      Rottie says:
      > If anyone wants to see where all the conversation about The 
      > Source is actually happening [including some *real* spoiler 
      > threads] now that a promo film about it has been seen at the 
      > Leeds convention, go here:
      > (http://www.highlander-community.com/cgi-bin/messageboard etc etc etc
      
      So, Rottie, do you get a commission from Carmel every time you mention
      HLWW  here? Just asking.
      
      As for the "*real*" spoilers there, I looked ...they are all talking
      about the possibility that Joe is dead.  Nina already mentioned that so
      there is no reason to run off to HLWW to discuss it. 
      
      How do I feel about Joe dying in "The Source"? He would be just one more
      in a long line of mortals who die while playing with Immortals. Whether
      he gets killed while helping Duncan do...something...or he keels over
      with a heart attack in 20 years, he is still mortal and as Methos says "
      Six months, twenty years..they're all dying"
      
      Further, Joe's story arc has been done (and redone) for some time. We
      watched him agonize over his oath numerous times. The oath almost always
      lost out to his need to be close to Duncan.  He acts as a walking
      talking encyclopedia of Immortal knowledge but as "Endgame" proved, a
      notebook computer can do the same thing and it doesn't bleed on the
      carpets.
      
      Still further, the character  (and the actor) is growing old. If he was
      born in 1950 and this movie takes place 10- 15 years from whatever date
      they place Endgame at, Joe is going to be 70ish. There is a limit to how
      long he can  realistically trudge along with Duncan and Methos. (We'll
      ignore for now the fact that AP and PW will soon look as old as CL)
      (Sean Connery looks better than Christophe does these days.)
      
      Further still, the whole Watchers concept has been so bastardized by
      "Endgame" that killing Joe and breaking all contact with the Watchers
      would be a good plot move. They don't Watch and Record- they watch,
      record, meddle, kill, trap, inject blue goo, and generally get in the
      way of the Game. Death to the Watchers!
      
      Finally, if a main character must die to add the necessary tragedy to
      the plot, let it be Joe and not Duncan or Methos. ...either of whom is
      more likely to get a good sex scene (or Kamil's nekkid sweaty kata with
      digitized naughty dangly bits) than Joe is. If I am going to pay $8 to
      see this movie, I want some eye candy.
      
      DEBBIE! We're spoiling the movie! And talking about nekkid bits! Plus I
      was marginally mean to Rottie!
      
      Wendy(One request- if Duncan does a kata - nekkid or not - could we skip
      the grunting noises?)(They may be realistic but they are a real buzz
      kill.)
      
      Immortals Inc.
      immortals_incorporated@cox.net
      "Weasels for Eternity" 
      
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      Date:    Mon, 13 Mar 2006 23:58:54 -0500
      From:    Virginia Foster <vfoster_042@bellsouth.net>
      Subject: Re: Source SPOILERS--possibly
      
      Wendy requested of the rumored Highlander movie:
      >Wendy(One request- if Duncan does a kata - nekkid or not - could we skip
      >the grunting noises?)(They may be realistic but they are a real buzz
      >kill.)
      
      oh but Wendy, the noises are so much fun!  He grunts.  *snicker*  He groans.
      *snort* He sounds so darned constipated.  I mean really, during the katas in
      season sux.... er... six,  I kept thinking he needed medical help or something.
      
      The real question is, will AP have the poofy hair to go along with 
      the constipated
      grunts?  If so, that will make The Source (if it really is an actual 
      movie) a true
      comedic farce.
      
      virginia
      (I'll believe in the movie when I see it released)(personally, I think it's all
      a plot by DPP to sell more trashy items over the phone)(do they really think
      we'll go see another HL film?)(only if I can be all snarky and make MST3K
      type comments)(the Ewoks have *not* been contacted, so it's not a real HL
      movie)(so there)(DEBBIE!!!!)(I'm bashing TPTB!)(I'm bashing AP's poofy hair!)
      (and I used the word constipated.  that *has* to against something)
      
      
      
      
      
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      Date:    Tue, 14 Mar 2006 07:28:22 EST
      From:    Dotiran@aol.com
      Subject: Re: Source SPOILERS--possibly
      
      In a message dated 3/13/2006 11:42:41 PM US Eastern Standard Time,  
      Immortals_Incorporated@COX.NET writes:
      
      >>>So, Rottie, do you get a commission from Carmel every time  you mention
      HLWW  here? Just asking.
       
      I should just ignore you, but it is so much fun to point out that in your  
      hurry to  assume all conversation happens here, *and* to take yet another  dig 
      at the magnificent Carmel McPherson [without whose efforts fandom would have  
      all but disappeared], you failed to note that the link I posted was not to  
      Carmel's [official] HL fan club, but to the Panzer/Davis official Highlander  
      website.  You know, run by the the people who are *making*  The  Source. 
      So forget commission, if you can find me *another* *official* Highlander  
      "source" I'll be happy to point people there too. [as for me I prefer hanging  
      out at the unofficial but old time fan former Rysher BB, Holyground .....it's  
      safer there :)]
       
      >>>Plus I
      was marginally mean to Rottie!
       
      :)  So what else is new?
      Bless you
      [bless those who persecute you :)]
       
      Rottie
      Adrian  Paul: Rottweilers? 'I like  their intelligence. I like their strength 
      and their faithfulness. I also like  their affectionate nature.' (AOL  chat)
      
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      Date:    Tue, 14 Mar 2006 08:18:30 -0500
      From:    Wendy <Immortals_Incorporated@cox.net>
      Subject: Re: Source SPOILERS--possibly
      
      Me:
      >> So, Rottie, do you get a commission from Carmel every time  you 
      >>mention HLWW  here? Just asking.
      
      Rottie:
      > I should just ignore you, 
      
      But you won't. 
      
      >but it is so much fun to point out 
      > that in your hurry to  assume all conversation happens here, 
      > *and* to take yet another dig at the magnificent Carmel 
      > McPherson [without whose efforts fandom would have all but 
      > disappeared],
      
      The Magnificent Carmel McPherson? Is that her title now? Wow!  Last I
      heard it was only the Wonderful Carmel McPherson.
      
      I have no issue with Carmel. She took hold of a fandom and has found a
      way to make it pay. Bravo to her. Sincerely. I mean it. She had the
      foresight to see that the future of HL was in convention staging and she
      put herself in a position to do the job. Someone besides DDP should be
      making a living off of HL fans, why not Carmel? 
      
      > you failed to note that the link I posted was 
      > not to Carmel's [official] HL fan club, but to the 
      > Panzer/Davis official Highlander website.  
      
      True. The sites are just so intertwined these days that I tend to think
      of them as one big super-site. After all, the HLWW convention link is
      above the "Source" link on the official HL page. And then there is the
      HLWW link directly below the "Source" link. Official fan club, official
      movie site, official merchandise site... It's so ...so...incestuous!
      
      Wendy (DEBBIE!)(I said incestuous!)
      
      Immortals Inc.
      immortals_incorporated@cox.net
      "Weasels for Eternity" 
      
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      Date:    Tue, 14 Mar 2006 08:18:30 -0500
      From:    Wendy <Immortals_Incorporated@cox.net>
      Subject: Re: Source SPOILERS--possibly
      
      Me: 
      > >(One request- if Duncan does a kata - nekkid or not - could we 
      > >skip the grunting noises?)(They may be realistic but they are a real 
      > >buzz kill.)
      
      Virginia:
      > oh but Wendy, the noises are so much fun!  He grunts.  
      > *snicker*  He groans. *snort* He sounds so darned 
      >constipated.  I mean really,  during the katas in 
      >season sux.... er... six,  I kept  thinking he 
      >needed medical help or something.
      
      I think he just sounded old. Things he could do easily at 30 are so much
      harder at 40 and even harder at 50.  (Did AP change his birthdate?)(The
      imbd says 1959)( thought it use to say 1955.) In any event, the man is
      at least pushing 47 and all that kicking and punching  and swinging a
      sword is hard on the old joints.
      
      > The real question is, will AP have the poofy hair to go along 
      > with the constipated grunts? 
      
      The poofiness of his hair will depend on the make-up department, I'm
      sure. Hopefully they could afford better hairpieces than the old dead
      ferrets used in HL:TS. (And I think the leather coat with the fur lining
      is so...Nanook of the North.)(And by Nanook of the North I mean gay
      <eg>)
      
      >(the Ewoks have *not* been contacted, so 
      > it's not a real HL movie)
      
      I hate to tell you this but the Ewoks will be added in post-production.
      DDP can't afford live Ewoks.Call the Ewok union!
      
      DEBBIE! I said AP was old. And gay. And balding!
      
      Wendy (If the movie goes direct-to-video, we can just rent one copy and
      then burn a bunch of extra copies for every one else.)(Debbie!)(I'm
      talking about violating copyrights!)
      
      Immortals Inc.
      immortals_incorporated@cox.net
      "Weasels for Eternity" 
      
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      Date:    Tue, 14 Mar 2006 08:50:44 EST
      From:    Bizarro7@aol.com
      Subject: Re: Source SPOILERS--possibly
      
       
      In a message dated 3/14/2006 8:20:13 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
      Immortals_Incorporated@COX.NET writes:
      
      I have  no issue with Carmel. She took hold of a fandom and has found a
      way to make  it pay. Bravo to her. Sincerely. I mean it. She had the
      foresight to see  that the future of HL was in convention staging and she
      put herself in a  position to do the job. Someone besides DDP should be
      making a living off  of HL fans, why not Carmel? 
      
      
      
      Well ya gotta admit, it's a lot more positive hobby/avocation than  squatting 
      on a list that's ostensibly for fans of an old show, trashing it, its  fans 
      and its actors at every opportunity like some kind of toxic lawn  sprinkler. 
      I'm still scratching my head at the psychology of *that* one.
       
      Leah
      
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      Date:    Tue, 14 Mar 2006 14:14:35 -0000
      From:    John Mosby - Laptop <a.j.mosby@btinternet.com>
      Subject: HLWW, Carmel and Cons...
      
      Like Rottie I might have been tempted to let some recent postings go, but I 
      think they deserve (or rather NEED) addressing which I'm doing on a personal 
      basis rather than representing HLWW...
      
      
      
      So, Wendy, not a fan of HLWW (and despite what you say, Carmel as well) 
      then? I mean for all that you comment on Rottie's mentions of the HLWW 
      event, you're the one who seems to be bringing up any and all negative 
      references as well and throwing karma handgrenades in this direction.
      
      You insinuate the events are about where Carmel wants to go on holiday, more 
      than where a good convention can take place...
      
      (Fact: *I* was the one who instigated the Royal Armouries in Leeds as a 
      venue and I'm pretty sure the city isn't actually the world's top tourist 
      hotspot - especially in March. Of course, if it's not a tourist hot-spot 
      you'd probably complain it's not a practical place for people to spend time 
      and money going to and if it is then some people talk about holidays being a 
      factor. Methinks the fact that HLWW has a remit to take Highlander events to 
      different points on the globe so that there's a fair chance for the 
      international community to attend, that there were respresenatives from all 
      the different HL projects willing to turn up, that the Armouries are full of 
      swords through the ages, its is near a major airport and railway hub, has 
      great convention facilities and that there hasn't been a Highlander event in 
      the UK in over six years depsite a healthy fanbase, probably isn't enough 
      for you to think it'd be a great time and venue for the event. Would love to 
      hear suggestions about where you'd find acceptable. Actually, I probably 
      wouldn't as it's pretty obvious nowhere and nothing would be good enough 
      and, hey, it's much more fun to sit and snipe at those running it than 
      actually feel the need to attend an event before criticising it and the 
      people that ran it, isn't it?
      
      You basically say that the HLWW list is more about everyday chat than 
      strictly HLWW subjects.
      
      Possible, but if I go for a drink with friends at a local club or bar, we 
      don't limit ourselves to talking about the bar. If it's not to your taste, 
      you don't hang out there and you don't waste time discussing why. Perhaps 
      more people would be actively seeking out THIS list if there weren't several 
      posters who enjoyed snarky comments that are more about scoring points 
      rather than asking genuine questions and those self-same people weren't 
      spending the rest of their energies slating anything to do with the 
      franchise future. Fine, the HL future might be good or might suck, but it's 
      quite amazing to see the relish in which a product that isn't out there yet 
      is being dismembered already. People don't come here as much because of the 
      geleful negativity, so don't blame another list because it's got (rightly or 
      wrongly) a more positive attitude.
      
      Perhaps most importantly you just claimed the following:
      
      "I have no issue with Carmel. She took hold of a fandom and has found a
      way to make it pay. Bravo to her. Sincerely. I mean it. She had the
      foresight to see that the future of HL was in convention staging and she
      put herself in a position to do the job. Someone besides DDP should be
      making a living off of HL fans, why not Carmel? "
      
      That can't go unchecked and as Carmel isn't here to squash those 
      insinuations as fast as they need to be, I will. You absolutely make that 
      sound as if Carmel makes personal profit from HLWW and that is completely 
      untrue. This isn't her job, it's something that she does in (and which takes 
      most of)  her spare-time and for which she has won the support of the 
      actors, the behind the scenes talent and other con-organisers. She doesn't 
      take a wage for it and D/P don't organise or fund it. She's put her own 
      money upfront on many occasions and if there's any timely truths to be told 
      here, she's the one who is in a prime postion to actually have lost money at 
      the end of each weekend. All profits (and they are minimal) are ploughed 
      back into future events. No, Carmel isn't perfectly perfect and I'm as 
      capable of arguing with her on a range of subjects / ideas etc as much as I 
      am of praising her. You won't find me saying anything about her - good or 
      bad - that I wouldn't be prepared to say to her face because I consider her 
      a good friend and friends, whatver their individual differences can take 
      debate and discussions and create something positive. I wonder if you'd be 
      prepared to come to an event and make the claims you make here to her face? 
      Probably not.  But you won't find many people more generous or as capable of 
      creating opportunities for fans than her.  Equally, while Carmel is HLWW's 
      leader (and a bloody good one), there's a team behind her that makes the 
      events possible.
      
      Yes, that includes me. I just spent ten months helping organise the 
      convention, making sure things run smoothly as they ever can. Over two days 
      we covered news on the original film, the original tv series, the next tv 
      series, the next film, the computer game, the anime movie. Since the 
      oriignal 'Celebration' in 1998, I've never seen a HL con with quite so many 
      panels, quite so many exclusives and quite so many people who came away 
      loving the weekend they'd just had. We laughed at some good jokes and we 
      remembered friends lost to us. Was it perfect?  Hell, no - I have a long 
      list of things that we can do better next time that's just a bit shorter 
      than the list of things we seemed to get absolutely right in the eyes of 
      everyone who went. It wasn't stress-free all the time and I'm willing to 
      take *constructive* criticism as much as any praise, but - yes - after all 
      the time, effort, lack of sleep, somewhat thankless if satisfying job of 
      watching everyone else have a good time while helping keep the machinery of 
      such an event ticking over myself, I'm less inclined to take any crap from 
      someone who wasn't there, yet somehow seems able to take opportunistic 
      pot-shots at the organisation and its events  from the safety of her 
      keyboard.
      
      It's a free world and you can comment here on what you will - as you do. But 
      in doing so, get your facts right and if you care about accuracy as much as 
      refining a good snark, then note that revelling in the negative rather than 
      admitting the positive is a little telling in the end. And out of 
      interest...have you ever attended a convention that met you standards? Or is 
      it just easier and more fun to pick them apart from a safe distance and 
      throw borderline libelous insinations into the pot for light relief?
      
      The next event for HLWW is the Vancouver con in late 2007. We thought we'd 
      give you a good eighteen months to complain about how bad we're doing in 
      advance.
      
      John
      
      
      
      
      
      
      
      
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: "Wendy" <Immortals_Incorporated@COX.NET>
      To: <HIGHLA-L@LISTS.PSU.EDU>
      Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2006 4:41 AM
      Subject: Re: [HL] Source SPOILERS--possibly
      
      
      > Rottie says:
      >> If anyone wants to see where all the conversation about The
      >> Source is actually happening [including some *real* spoiler
      >> threads] now that a promo film about it has been seen at the
      >> Leeds convention, go here:
      >> (http://www.highlander-community.com/cgi-bin/messageboard etc etc etc
      >
      > So, Rottie, do you get a commission from Carmel every time you mention
      > HLWW  here? Just asking.
      >
      > As for the "*real*" spoilers there, I looked ...they are all talking
      > about the possibility that Joe is dead.  Nina already mentioned that so
      > there is no reason to run off to HLWW to discuss it.
      >
      > How do I feel about Joe dying in "The Source"? He would be just one more
      > in a long line of mortals who die while playing with Immortals. Whether
      > he gets killed while helping Duncan do...something...or he keels over
      > with a heart attack in 20 years, he is still mortal and as Methos says "
      > Six months, twenty years..they're all dying"
      >
      > Further, Joe's story arc has been done (and redone) for some time. We
      > watched him agonize over his oath numerous times. The oath almost always
      > lost out to his need to be close to Duncan.  He acts as a walking
      > talking encyclopedia of Immortal knowledge but as "Endgame" proved, a
      > notebook computer can do the same thing and it doesn't bleed on the
      > carpets.
      >
      > Still further, the character  (and the actor) is growing old. If he was
      > born in 1950 and this movie takes place 10- 15 years from whatever date
      > they place Endgame at, Joe is going to be 70ish. There is a limit to how
      > long he can  realistically trudge along with Duncan and Methos. (We'll
      > ignore for now the fact that AP and PW will soon look as old as CL)
      > (Sean Connery looks better than Christophe does these days.)
      >
      > Further still, the whole Watchers concept has been so bastardized by
      > "Endgame" that killing Joe and breaking all contact with the Watchers
      > would be a good plot move. They don't Watch and Record- they watch,
      > record, meddle, kill, trap, inject blue goo, and generally get in the
      > way of the Game. Death to the Watchers!
      >
      > Finally, if a main character must die to add the necessary tragedy to
      > the plot, let it be Joe and not Duncan or Methos. ...either of whom is
      > more likely to get a good sex scene (or Kamil's nekkid sweaty kata with
      > digitized naughty dangly bits) than Joe is. If I am going to pay $8 to
      > see this movie, I want some eye candy.
      >
      > DEBBIE! We're spoiling the movie! And talking about nekkid bits! Plus I
      > was marginally mean to Rottie!
      >
      > Wendy(One request- if Duncan does a kata - nekkid or not - could we skip
      > the grunting noises?)(They may be realistic but they are a real buzz
      > kill.)
      >
      > Immortals Inc.
      > immortals_incorporated@cox.net
      > "Weasels for Eternity"
      > 
      
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      Date:    Tue, 14 Mar 2006 09:45:01 EST
      From:    Dotiran@aol.com
      Subject: Re: HLWW, Carmel and Cons...
      
       
      In a message dated 3/14/2006 9:19:06 AM US Eastern Standard Time,  
      a.j.mosby@btinternet.com writes:
      
      >>>>if you care about accuracy as much as 
      refining a  good snark, then note that revelling in the negative rather than 
      admitting  the positive is a little telling in the end.
      
      
      I wanted to highlight every single word of your delightful post John, but  
      decided this one would do.  Thanks and Amen to all you said so  well.
      
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      Date:    Tue, 14 Mar 2006 09:49:41 -0500
      From:    kageorge <kageorge1@verizon.net>
      Subject: Re: HLWW, Carmel and Cons...
      
      Thank you, John, for a heartfelt post that puts much of what is said 
      here in better perspective.  I am an active poster on a lot of lists, 
      but I rarely post here simply because of the determinedly poisonous bile 
      that seems to pervade a lot of what is said.  While I'm perfectly 
      capable of, and often *have* participated in lively, sometimes 
      acrimoneous, debate on a variety of HL-related topics, the never-ending 
      knee-jerk "Bah, humbug!" about anything and everything related to the 
      very topic which we are here to discuss seems to defeat the whole point 
      of having the conversation in the first place.
      
      As to Carmel and the HLWW cons, while I haven't attended an HLWW con, I 
      do know Carmel personally, and I know that she is a funny, gifted, 
      giving, hardworking individual whose "profit" from her HL-related 
      activities is the satisfaction of knowing and working with people who 
      care about the franchise.  To attribute any other motive is, frankly, 
      slanderous, untrue, spiteful and mean-spirited and I'm glad you rose to 
      the defense of the cons and specifically Carmel's (and that of many 
      near-anonymous volunteers) hard work in making them successful and 
      enjoyable for so many people, and which serve to keep the interest in 
      Highlander going.
      
      For those whose primary participation in the conversation seems to be to 
      practice the art of "gotcha" and ill-tempered put-downs, well, that says 
      far more about the person posting than it does about any subject under 
      discussion.
      
      MacGeorge
      
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      Date:    Tue, 14 Mar 2006 10:42:02 -0500
      From:    Wendy <Immortals_Incorporated@cox.net>
      Subject: Re: HLWW, Carmel and Cons...
      
      John, Leah, Rottie, MacGeorge take me to task.
      
      <snip the task-taking>
      
      Damn ... I can get a rise out of everyone but Debbie. Maybe she really
      is dead. 
      
      Maybe sweetness&light will work.
      
      HL:TS good.
      
      Cons good.
      
      HLWW good.
      
      Carmel good.
      
      Discussion good.
      
      Actors good.
      
      Fans good.
      
      Movies good.
      
      French good.
      
      John good.
      
      HIGHLA-L good.
      
      Blues good.
      
      Leeds good.
      
      Bond polls good.
      
      DDP good.
      
      Rottie good.
      
      Virtual bricks good.
      
      Novels good.
      
      HL:Raven good.
      
      Canadians good.
      
      Guest stars good.
      
      Kilts good.
      
      Wendy (Debbie dead.)
      
      Immortals Inc.
      immortals_incorporated@cox.net
      "Weasels for Eternity" 
      
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      Date:    Tue, 14 Mar 2006 17:53:23 +0200
      From:    TMar <tmar@polka.co.za>
      Subject: Re: Debbie? Debbie? RE: HL Alum HI Debbie!!
      
       >I thought we had long ago decided that when subtext became text, the
       >slash lovers in the audience weren't interested?
      
      Well, I didn't vote in that decision, and I do like it when slashiness is
      part of the text. But slashing TV characters is WAY more fun!
      
      Methos and Duncan
      Sitting in a tree
      K
      I
      S
      S
      I
      N
      G
      
      Nyah nyah. ;-P
      
      Come and get me, Nina. :-P
      
       >As for the movie in question, how one reacts may be a function of where
       >one was raised.
      
      Oh, no doubt. I wonder if I will enjoy the Oscar movie (Tsotsi) in that 
      case?
      The director was in Stargate SG-1, so I just have to like him! :)
      
       >OTOH, perhaps you just thought the acting was shite.<eg>
      
      I'm not sure the acting was shite, exactly, because the characters 
      behaved pretty
      much like in the story. The film just... goes on and on. Bleah. Only one 
      proper
      gay sex scene? And no nakedness? What's the point?
      
       >(DEBBIE!)(We're talking about the sexual orientation of
       >actors!!!)(And by "sexual orientation" I mean gayness)
      
      Debbie?
      
      - Marina.
      
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      \\===============tmar@polka.co.za===============||,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,//
      //=============Chief Flag Waver and Defender of Richie============\\
      
      "Nothing in the world is the way it ought to be. It's harsh and
      it's cruel, but that's why there's us ... We live as though the
      world were how it should be, to show it what it can be." - Angel
      
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      Date:    Tue, 14 Mar 2006 17:58:14 +0200
      From:    TMar <tmar@polka.co.za>
      Subject: Re: HLWW, Carmel and Cons...
      
       >HL:TS good.
       >Cons good.
      
      Slash good.
      
      - Marina. (Debbie AWOL at the very least.)
      
      \\ "I'm like every other kid in America. We all ||>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> //
      //  wanna be astronauts... 'to boldly go where  || R I C H I E >> \\
      \\  no man has gone before'."  - Matt Sikes to  ||>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> //
      //   Cathy Frankel; Green Eyes (Alien Nation)   ||````````````````\\
      \\===============tmar@polka.co.za===============||,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,//
      //=============Chief Flag Waver and Defender of Richie============\\
      
      "Nothing in the world is the way it ought to be. It's harsh and 
      it's cruel, but that's why there's us ... We live as though the 
      world were how it should be, to show it what it can be." - Angel
      
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      Date:    Tue, 14 Mar 2006 11:17:49 EST
      From:    Ashton7@aol.com
      Subject: Re: HLWW, Carmel and Cons...
      
       
       
      In a message dated 3/14/2006 9:19:06 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
      a.j.mosby@btinternet.com writes:
      
      <<<But you won't find many people more generous or as capable  of 
      creating opportunities for fans than her.  Equally, while Carmel  is HLWW's 
      leader (and a bloody good one), there's a team behind her that  makes the 
      events possible.>>>
      
      
      Carmel is kind, generous, liked by many, works hard and has done a  lot for 
      the fandom. She's received recognition for this. I'm sure that's  considered a 
      deadly sin by some. *gasp* She actually helps bring about products  and 
      services that lots of fans are asking for and might enjoy. Heavens! What's  the 
      world coming to! Fans helping fans! Cats and dogs! Living together! Pfffft.  I'm 
      leaving for a *convention* in Vancouver in a week and I have a lot of work  to 
      get ready for it. I'm too busy for this nonsense. Where the hell are those  
      unsub instructions...
       
      Annie
      
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      Date:    Tue, 14 Mar 2006 17:49:50 +0000
      From:    Earl Heinrich <eheinr007@comcast.net>
      Subject: HEY DEBBIE!!!  Was:  Re: HLWW, Carmel and Cons...
      
      DEBBIE!  The ListWeasel just became facetious and alleged that you are DEAD! (not just a prisoner in her closet or holed up behind a couch with a poker).
      Earl J. Heinrich
      
      -------------- Original message -------------- 
      From: Wendy <Immortals_Incorporated@COX.NET> 
      
      > John, Leah, Rottie, MacGeorge take me to task. 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > Damn ... I can get a rise out of everyone but Debbie. Maybe she really 
      > is dead. 
      > 
      > Maybe sweetness&light will work. 
      > 
      > HL:TS good. 
      > 
      > Cons good. 
      > 
      > HLWW good. 
      > 
      > Carmel good. 
      > 
      > Discussion good. 
      > 
      > Actors good. 
      > 
      > Fans good. 
      > 
      > Movies good. 
      > 
      > French good. 
      > 
      > John good. 
      > 
      > HIGHLA-L good. 
      > 
      > Blues good. 
      > 
      > Leeds good. 
      > 
      > Bond polls good. 
      > 
      > DDP good. 
      > 
      > Rottie good. 
      > 
      > Virtual bricks good. 
      > 
      > Novels good. 
      > 
      > HL:Raven good. 
      > 
      > Canadians good. 
      > 
      > Guest stars good. 
      > 
      > Kilts good. 
      > 
      > Wendy (Debbie dead.) 
      > 
      > Immortals Inc. 
      > immortals_incorporated@cox.net 
      > "Weasels for Eternity" 
      
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      Date:    Tue, 14 Mar 2006 17:50:50 -0000
      From:    Jette Goldie <jette@blueyonder.co.uk>
      Subject: Re: HLWW, Carmel and Cons...
      
      > Slash good.
      > 
      
      
      slash boring.
      
      Jette Goldie
      jette@blueyonder.co.uk
      http://www.jette.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/
      ("reply to" is spamblocked)
      
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