HIGHLA-L Digest - 6 Feb 2006 to 7 Feb 2006 (#2006-34)
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Topics of the day:
1. Tolerance. (3)
2. leaving
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Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2006 01:23:22 -0500
From: Melinda Morgan <sgt_buck_Frobisher@YAHOO.COM>
Subject: Re: Tolerance.
It hasn't changed the law? Obviously you haven't tried to get an
abortion recently. Do you know how many doctors have stopped doing
abortions out of fear for their lives and livelihoods? Do you know how
many women now have to travel hundreds of miles to find a doctor
willing to perform an abortion - that there are entire states without
*one* place to get a legal abortion? Do you know how many states have
imposed layers of regulation to make running an abortion clinic almost
impossible? How many laws have been passed to require longer and longer
waiting periods, more and more "counseling" aimed at terrorizing women,
more and more notification rules that make it harder and harder to have
an abortion "in private"?
The abortion debate may be ongoing, but the *law* has indeed changed.
Death by a thousand tiny cuts (or making abortion impossible by thousand
tiny regulations) is still death.
And it's a death that's a good thing, something's got to be done to
protect the thousands of babies that die every year. Life is life, born or
not, and unless it's something like rape or the mother's life is in
danger, there's no reason to deny these babies a chance to live. However,
I don't agree with the violence and such, blowing up stuff and that type
of thing is just insane. Makes everyone else look bad.
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Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2006 01:50:55 -0500
From: Melinda Morgan <sgt_buck_Frobisher@YAHOO.COM>
Subject: leaving
I really don't want to leave this list but I just don't like the
squabbling anymore, and there's no actual HL to discuss until the movie
comes out.(I might check back then.) I have no hard feelings toward anyone
nore am I upset at anyone.
Mel (and many of you will still see me at Holyground occasionally or
possibly the offical board, so...)
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Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2006 09:14:26 -0500
From: "Kathryn L. Zimmerman" <zimmy@highstream.net>
Subject: Re: Tolerance.
On Feb 6, 2006, at 12:21 PM, Billie Lee Williams wrote:
> The very backbone of true Christianity, IMHO, IS
> tolerance, acceptance of ALL, regardless of Belief System, or lack
> thereof,
> culture, practices...; that is what it is all about, from my POV.
Hmmmmm...
We all seem to attach a lot of baggage to whatever religion we practice.
Christianity is very simple, actually. Over and over again, we read
in Holy Writ that there is one single requirement in order to be a
Christian: belief in Jesus Christ. That's it.
There's a lot of confusion about how rigidly Christians should follow
guidelines suggested down for fledgling churches in various parts of
the known world 2000 years ago. Even the primary author of those
guidelines admitted at one point that what he was saying seemed
reasonable but he didn't have any direct guidance from God on the
topic he was addressing.
Early Christians had to be tolerant. They were a handful; everybody
else was some other religion. Daily life would have been difficult
ducking and running from anyone who didn't believe like they did.
They brought their current way of life into their new faith and where
squabbles arose, they asked the apostles for advice. Almost
universally, the apostles came down on the side of acceptance, or
stating that the issue simply didn't matter anymore.
Looking at Jesus's life, he didn't hang around with the
televangelists and legislators and his most scathing remarks were for
those in power who did nothing to lighten the burden of those who
were worst off. He spent time with tax collectors, the poor, the
insane, "women of the town", and saving lepers and women being stoned
for adultery (I've often wondered where her partner was and why he
wasn't ducking flying rocks too).
I guess we should be grateful that BoD only triggered some
sermonizing and getting the show yanked, not worldwide rioting by
outraged Christians.
ZK (you want a dissertation with references, I could probably write
it but I got a lot of crocheting to do)
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Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2006 14:57:37 -0000
From: John Mosby - Laptop <a.j.mosby@btinternet.com>
Subject: Re: Tolerance.
I'm notcing more and more that those using religion as a wepon or hammer to
shape others' thinking into their own, have a tendency to quote out of
context and that closer inspection of sared texts and teachings often
reveals more palatable and simple teachings.
I grow tired ans weary of *certain* sections of Christianity and Islam (not
their whole) making their religion fitting aroudn their ideas rather than
the other way around.
Religion should be about faith in something, not the runiation of those who
don't have that same faith.
John
----- Original Message -----
From: "Melinda Morgan" <sgt_buck_Frobisher@YAHOO.COM>
To: <HIGHLA-L@LISTS.PSU.EDU>
Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2006 6:23 AM
Subject: Re: [HL] Tolerance.
> It hasn't changed the law? Obviously you haven't tried to get an
> abortion recently. Do you know how many doctors have stopped doing
> abortions out of fear for their lives and livelihoods? Do you know how
> many women now have to travel hundreds of miles to find a doctor
> willing to perform an abortion - that there are entire states without
> *one* place to get a legal abortion? Do you know how many states have
> imposed layers of regulation to make running an abortion clinic almost
> impossible? How many laws have been passed to require longer and longer
> waiting periods, more and more "counseling" aimed at terrorizing women,
> more and more notification rules that make it harder and harder to have
> an abortion "in private"?
>
> The abortion debate may be ongoing, but the *law* has indeed changed.
> Death by a thousand tiny cuts (or making abortion impossible by thousand
> tiny regulations) is still death.
>
> And it's a death that's a good thing, something's got to be done to
> protect the thousands of babies that die every year. Life is life, born or
> not, and unless it's something like rape or the mother's life is in
> danger, there's no reason to deny these babies a chance to live. However,
> I don't agree with the violence and such, blowing up stuff and that type
> of thing is just insane. Makes everyone else look bad.
>
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