HIGHLA-L Digest - 8 Oct 2005 to 9 Oct 2005 (#2005-115)
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There are 11 messages totalling 445 lines in this issue.
Topics of the day:
1. HL books (2)
2. Cast of Highlander 5 (6)
3. Kenny's little sister (SPOILERS) (3)
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Date: Sun, 9 Oct 2005 09:16:02 -0400
From: kageorge <kageorge1@verizon.net>
Subject: Re: HL books
I thought I'd take a shot at a reply to this. For the most part, I
thought the books were weak efforts, with my favorites being Scotland
the Brave and The Path. Was Captive Soul the Methos-centered one? As I
recall I didn't care for it much and felt Methos was way out of
character. I've read consistently better HL fiction by writers online.
The commercially written stories seemed, for the most part, bland and
shallow. Those books are targeted and edited for the lowest common
denominator of reader and any real emotional tension or dealing with
difficult issues is not a part of the deal, I'm afraid.
MacGeorge
FKMel wrote:
>Just my thoughts, now that I've finally read 'em all.
>
>Element of Fire: The only one I really didn't
>like...seems more like something out of Buffy/Angel
>than HL.
>
>Scmitar: One of my two favorites, a good read
>
>Scotland the Brave: Another one I liked, and now I
>can't hear a mention of MacBeth without thinking of it
>lol
>
>Captive Soul: Good flashback writing...wish we'd have
>seen more Methos back-stuff
>
>Zealot: Pretty good. Hard to imagine Methos as a slave
>in that one mention but like they said, anything's
>possible. Wonder if anyone ever wrote about that. And
>'Drucilla the Emasculator' got a laugh. Doesn't sound
>like what usually comes to mind with that name, which
>is Buffy-related. The main plot still resonates now
>'cause things haven't changed much since it was
>written.
>
>The Path: Pretty good read, but it can't be canon,
>Duncan said onscreen twice that he only told Tessa
>about his immortality.
>
>Shadow of Obsession: Love it, loved the Darius
>backstory.
>
>Measure of a Man: another good read; Nancy Holder's
>usually a good author. I felt sorry for Joe about
>midway through. Ouch.
>
>White Silence: I like Canada-related stuff so it was
>kinda cool. And a good introspective on what kinds of
>things can affect Immie minds.
>
>I just wish they hadn't gone and avertised Barricades,
>then dropped it. I know the books probably weren't
>selling...happens a lot with TV shows when they go off
>the air, Star Trek and Buffy being exceptions. FK also
>had books they requested but never printed, but at
>least they didn't advertise them before they dumped
>them.
>
>I like the way some of the books used minor
>pre-existing characters (Annie Devlin, Constatine,
>ect) in their plots.
>
>It's confusing though on the DVDs and the Watcher
>Chronicles, that the books are canon. I got the S1
>DVDs from the library, or some of them, still a couple
>to get, and they have about Grayson dying in Shadow of
>Obsession and the events in Scmitar are on the
>Chronicles disk. I remember us saying they weren't
>canon, but apparently the PTBs say yes. Wierd.
>
>Highlander: The movie novelization-Of course it has
>the same contradictions as the film. I liked how they
>added backstory with Kastagir, although that comment
>Connor made about "can two immies come from the same
>tribe" was really ironic, considering later, we know
>he would already have know that, because of Duncan.
>Hmm, was the Kastagir Africa scene cut from the script
>due to legnth? And one small bit, that last scene with
>Racheal is moved closer to the end, AFTER the final
>fight with the Kurgan.
>
>I think it shows how much HL canon's changed...I don't
>even think the First Death concept was thought up
>until later...the Kurgan's backstory is totally
>confusing. His father bashed his head in on a rock
>trying to kill him but instead of becoming Kenny Jr so
>to speak, he grows up and then becomes immortal in his
>20s, without any mention of a First Death.
>
>The Kurgan is said to be the oldest Immortal but tha't
>a simple one...everyone thought Methos was a myth
>until Duncan stumbled onto him. And even then, only a
>few knew: Duncan, Joe, Richie and Amanda. I think that
>was it. Well, and a few Watchers who outed his secret
>in Methuselah's Gift.
>
>I also find it interesting that in the Chronicles,
>Horton was said to have been the Kurgan's
>watcher...watching him was one of the things that
>drove him insane, along with whoever did the amusement
>park massacre.
>
>You can probably tell I stink at picking up subtleties
>for reviews...I know when something is wildly OOC but
>little minor OOC things I miss a lot. So I just said
>what I liked and didn't like about the books.
>
>
>
>
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Date: Sun, 9 Oct 2005 11:31:58 -0400
From: Wendy <Immortals_Incorporated@cox.net>
Subject: Cast of Highlander 5
What do we have to look forward to?
Adrian Paul as "Duncan MacLeod"
Thekla Reuten as "Anna". 30 years old. Looks about 20. No film credits
for anything in English. Waif thin, big eyes, big lips. Will look good
naked in bed with Adrian.
Jim Bynes as "Joe Dawson"
Peter Wingfield as "Methos"
Cristian Solimeno as "The Guardian." Some British TV work and some
minor films. 30 years old. "The Guardian"??? Guardian of the secrets
of immortality? Guardian of the "Prize"? Guardian of a big soggy mess of
garbled plotlines?
Thom Fell as "Giovanni". Minor British TV parts and some tiny movies.
29 years old, can pass for younger. Sword fodder? Richie substitute?
Tag-a-long mortal?
Stephen Rahman Hughes as "Zai". Dancer, choreographer, theatre actor.
28 years old. Ethnic "color" casting? The stereotypical bad guy?
(Can he chew scenery?)
Stephen Wight as "Reggie". Minor TV work (as Steven Wright) miniscule
film work, some stage work. Mid-20's. Young Immortal? Young mortal?
Anna's brother? Giovanni's lover?
The good news is that all the guys should have lovely British accents-
although Fell may be faking Italian as "Giovanni". Bad news is that
"Anna" may or may not be able to speak intelligible English. Maybe they
can find that French woman who dubbed all the HL:TS episodes to come
back and dub this too? Or maybe she speaks perfect English. 10-1 odds
she's dead before the movie is over.
I hope it's a good movie.
Wendy(Not holding my breath)
Immortals Inc.
immortals_incorporated@cox.net
"Weasels for Eternity"
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Date: Sun, 9 Oct 2005 16:50:44 +0100
From: Jette Goldie <jette@blueyonder.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Cast of Highlander 5
On Sun, 09 Oct 2005 16:31:58 +0100, Wendy <Immortals_Incorporated@cox.net>
wrote:
>
> Thekla Reuten as "Anna". 30 years old. Looks about 20. No film credits
> for anything in English. Waif thin, big eyes, big lips. Will look good
> naked in bed with Adrian.
She'd look even better naked in bed with Joe Dawson
;-)
--
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Date: Sun, 9 Oct 2005 11:45:41 -0400
From: "Kathryn L. Zimmerman" <zimmy@highstream.net>
Subject: Kenny's little sister (SPOILERS)
There's this new show called, I think, Killer Instinct. Fox. Fridays.
I'm sufficiently bored with TV and explicit scenes of dead bodies
that I'm boycotting most cop/CSI type shows right now, but caught a
few minutes of this one.
It was something about a 12-year-old girl and a bunch of dead
bodies. The girl ended up being the killer and was actually 25 years
old. She looked 12 because she had some sort of endocrine disorder.
But it made me think of Kenny.
ZK (Highlander did it fiiiii-iiiirst...Highlander did it fiiiii-
iiiirst!)
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Date: Sun, 9 Oct 2005 11:38:32 -0500
From: La Femme Vickita <lf@vickita.org>
Subject: Re: Cast of Highlander 5
At 4:50 PM +0100 10/9/05, Jette Goldie wrote:
>On Sun, 09 Oct 2005 16:31:58 +0100, Wendy
><Immortals_Incorporated@cox.net> wrote:
>
>>
>>Thekla Reuten as "Anna". 30 years old. Looks about 20. No film credits
>>for anything in English. Waif thin, big eyes, big lips. Will look good
>>naked in bed with Adrian.
>
>She'd look even better naked in bed with Joe Dawson
>
>;-)
Heh. Can I just say that every time I play "Fresh Horses" (which is
often, because I spend an ungodly amount of time in my car, driving
back and forth between Oklahoma and Texas, and I listen to Jim Byrnes
a lot on those trips), at the beginning of the first track, when it
opens with Jim laughing and saying, "Okay, we got everybody on board?
A-one, two..."
That is a ::guh:: moment. Pure sex. If it was possible to wear out
a CD, mine would be worn out, right there.
Vicki
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Date: Sun, 9 Oct 2005 12:55:30 EDT
From: Highlandmg@aol.com
Subject: Re: Kenny's little sister (SPOILERS)
MY GOODNESS was that ZK who just posted?????????????
How is that Rocking chair
Love
Mary
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Date: Sun, 9 Oct 2005 14:43:17 EDT
From: SapphireRoseBud@aol.com
Subject: Re: HL books
I have been reading a few of the books myself from our local library out
here. I am in the middle of The Path and just got my hands on Zealot.
Unfortunately though, our library doesn't carry all of the books, so I am a little
disappointed by that.
In a message dated 10/8/05 2:08:19 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
sgt_buck_frobisher@yahoo.com writes:
I think it shows how much HL canon's changed...I don't
even think the First Death concept was thought up
until later...the Kurgan's backstory is totally
confusing. His father bashed his head in on a rock
trying to kill him but instead of becoming Kenny Jr so
to speak, he grows up and then becomes immortal in his
20s, without any mention of a First Death.
Actually, it was the Kurgan who snuck up on his father as he was sleeping
and killed him by bashing in the fathers head with a rock and then he went on an
lived somewhere else. ( I can't remember who took him in. I think it was
some sort of clan or something, who showed him the ways of the sword and
butchery and such, but I don't have the book on hand to look it up. I do remember
though that he had killed his father with the rock.)
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Date: Sun, 9 Oct 2005 14:47:00 EDT
From: SapphireRoseBud@aol.com
Subject: Re: Cast of Highlander 5
In a message dated 10/9/05 8:35:45 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
Immortals_Incorporated@cox.net writes:
Cristian Solimeno as "The Guardian." Some British TV work and some
minor films. 30 years old. "The Guardian"??? Guardian of the secrets
of immortality? Guardian of the "Prize"? Guardian of a big soggy mess of
garbled plotlines?
Perhaps, as I heard, that Highlander 5 is about a search for a kind of Holy
Grail of the Immortals. Maybe this guy is playing the guardian of that?
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Date: Sun, 9 Oct 2005 14:49:13 EDT
From: SapphireRoseBud@aol.com
Subject: Re: Cast of Highlander 5
In a message dated 10/9/05 8:50:02 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
jette@BLUEYONDER.CO.UK writes:
On Sun, 09 Oct 2005 16:31:58 +0100, Wendy <Immortals_Incorporated@cox.net>
wrote:
>
> Thekla Reuten as "Anna". 30 years old. Looks about 20. No film credits
> for anything in English. Waif thin, big eyes, big lips. Will look good
> naked in bed with Adrian.
She'd look even better naked in bed with Joe Dawson
;-)
I laughed so hard at the first remark that she would look good in bed with
Adrian. But when I read that she would look even better with Joe, I nearly peed
in my pants!! :D
LOL!
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Date: Sun, 9 Oct 2005 19:54:08 +0100
From: Jette Goldie <jette@blueyonder.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Cast of Highlander 5
On Sun, 09 Oct 2005 19:47:00 +0100, <SapphireRoseBud@AOL.COM> wrote:
> In a message dated 10/9/05 8:35:45 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
> Immortals_Incorporated@cox.net writes:
>
> Cristian Solimeno as "The Guardian." Some British TV work and some
> minor films. 30 years old. "The Guardian"??? Guardian of the secrets
> of immortality? Guardian of the "Prize"? Guardian of a big soggy mess of
> garbled plotlines?
The Guardian newspaper?
;-)
--
Jette
jette@blueyonder.co.uk
"If you don't know where you're going, you can't be lost"
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Date: Sun, 9 Oct 2005 17:26:39 EDT
From: Dotiran@aol.com
Subject: Re: Kenny's little sister (SPOILERS)
In a message dated 10/9/2005 10:50:01 AM US Eastern Standard Time,
zimmy@highstream.net writes:
ZK
ZK !!!!!! missing you.
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