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        1. Season Three dvds:  Methos (2)
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      Date:    Sat, 1 May 2004 22:20:43 -0400
      From:    kageorge <kageorge@erols.com>
      Subject: Season Three dvds:  Methos
      
      COMMENTARY: Peter Wingfield starts out the commentary by observing that one
      of the things where he got "lucky with Methos", was that he was 5,000 years
      old, and that there is no way of playing that, so he opted for playing it
      very low key, and when Methos just "said stuff" he tried to suggest that, in
      so doing, there was just a whole load of things he *wasn't* saying, that
      there was so much history that the details were trivial and not that big a
      deal.
      
      David Abramowitz said they had no idea what they had with Methos until Peter
      showed up and "played the intense scenes with incredible intensity, played
      the human scenes with incredible humanity, and played the funny scenes like
      a comedian." Since writers like to write for good actors, they really wanted
      to keep writing for Peter, and keep the Methos character around.
      
      David A. observes that Peter was always so pleased with the character, and
      the character kept surprising them because the actor could play everything
      they wrote for him, which made the writing an enormous pleasure.
      
      Peter says that, initially we see Methos as a very unobtrusive, ordinary
      kind of guy, which is how he has survived all those years. Kalas finds him
      and they fight, but Methos manages to get away. Even so, he is convinced
      Kalas is going to take his head and he decides that he will sacrifice
      himself to MacLeod. In retrospect, Peter comments that it was a strange
      thing for Methos to do. Did he really mean it or was it a very high risk
      gamble? When he was first playing it, Peter absolutely assumed that Methos
      meant it, that he was willing to sacrifice his life, that he'd been around
      for thousands of years, that he's seen and done everything, but he's been
      invisible, and maybe he's just bored and tired and ready to go, that it made
      sense under those circumstances. After a few years of playing the character,
      however, Peter isn't so sure. Nothing else the character did was as
      straightforward as that. As a Watcher, Methos would know MacLeod very well,
      and that MacLeod wasn't going to kill him. "So... I don't know," Peter says
      with a smile, and observes that it was that kind of thing that made him such
      a great character. "I never trusted him. I never knew what he meant. I never
      knew how serious he was about anything."
      
      Peter talks about his first connection with Highlander, that when he was
      sent a few pages of script to audition with he had no idea what it was
      about, that it seemed like complete nonsense. "Got the job, went out there,
      filmed that stuff under a bridge in Paris with all the smoke. This guy,
      Adrian Paul, didn't know who he was. Meant nothing to me.... It was all kind
      of bizarre."
      
      "I now look back at it, and it's changed my life so profoundly." He lives
      thousands of miles away, has a child who will "grow up with an accent
      completely unrelated to my own." His acting craft has been totally altered
      by his experience on Highlander, with the places he had to go with that
      character. "It's this strange little show about immortality. And here I am
      five years after we shot the final episode still talking about it. It's a
      show that will not die."
      
      OUTTAKES: The scene of Duncan and Methos walking along the river, having
      their first conversation, was substantially altered and then over-dubbed in
      the studio. We see the scene as it was originally shot. The rolled up piece
      of paper Methos is carrying is his script. The dialogue isn't really that
      different from the final version, except that Methos talks more about
      keeping a journal "almost since writing began", and that's what has helped
      him make sense of Immortality. Duncan asks him, since Methos knew Duncan was
      coming, what made him so sure Duncan wasn't going to kill him? "Because I'm
      a good judge of character," Methos replies. "And because you've become
      something of a legend yourself."
      
      An outtake of Don Saltzer's death scene ends in Adrian playing disgustingly
      with what is supposed to be Saltzer's severed tongue. Yuck!
      
      Because the episodes were filmed half in Vancouver and half in Paris, the
      scenes incorporating Joe's bar had to be filmed before they left for Paris,
      and before the rest of the script had been written for the episode. That
      meant that, once the script was finalized, the previously shot dialogue no
      longer worked and changes had to be made in looping. We see Jim Byrnes doing
      the original phone conversation telling MacLeod about someone spotting Kalas
      at a club called "The Red Balloon", while Adrian does the other half of the
      dialogue off-screen. After the scene ends, Adrian sneaks up behind Joe to
      surprise him, and the two have a colorful exchange (Jim calls Adrian a
      dickhead), and both break up laughing.
      
      VIDEO COMMENTARY: Stan Kirsch tells us that, for him, Season Three was about
      finding a way to keep Richie in the story and enable him to grow without
      taking away from the whole Immortal "There Can Be Only One" reality. Most of
      his filming was at the racetrack outside of town, and therefore removed from
      the rest of the episode shoots. Stan really liked working with Dennis Berry,
      who took time to get to know and take an interest in Richie's character.
      
      "And now," Peter Wingfield says, watching Duncan MacLeod approach Methos'
      apartment door, "after one of the greatest set-ups in filmic history,
      heeeere comes Methos." Man or myth, Methos, does he exist, this great fount
      of knowledge and wisdom - "They think it's gonna be Sean Connery," he quips.
      "Some old guy, white hair, long beard." But right from the outset, he was
      not what was expected, and not being what was expected became part of who
      Methos was. Peter observes that he thinks that someone who had survived that
      long probably wouldn't be the greatest fighter. He'd be competent, but the
      way to survive is to blend in, disappear, to not fight.
      
      He said Dennis Berry tried to explain to him what the Immortal "Buzz" was,
      and Peter had no idea what he was talking about, that the whole episode was
      spent doing what he was told without "getting" what the heck was going on.
      
      The scene under the bridge was the first scene he shot on Highlander. It was
      freezing cold, and they kept blowing smoke in, and even though he replies to
      Duncan's question of "Why?" with "Because There Can Be Only One!", Peter
      didn't know what that meant at the time. He tells us that Gillian Horvath
      told him that when she saw the dailies, she called David Abramowitz and
      advised him to take a look before he finished writing Finale, where the
      Methos character was scheduled to get killed as part of the whole Kalas arc.
      
      Even though Methos got very little screen time, the character was potent
      with possibility, and there was some very sound writing. "And that's where
      it all began," he ends it with a smile.
      
      THE EPISODE: This is the third of a triptych of stories involving the evil
      Immortal Kalas, with whom MacLeod had a long, bloody history. Most recently
      Kalas had killed the saintly Brother Paul, plus several mortals as he tried
      to destroy Anne Lindsay's career, and MacLeod's dear friend Fitzcairn. Now
      we see Kalas cogitating on how he needs more power to defeat MacLeod,
      settling on Methos, the legendary oldest Immortal as his preferred next
      target.
      
      We are in Paris, at Kalas' nightclub, the Nosferatu, and Kalas is being
      followed by his assigned Watcher, who foolishly allows himself to be
      spotted, and pays the ultimate price in torture and death. But before he
      dies, he tells Kalas about the Watchers, and about who might have
      information about Methos.
      
      With Dawson's help, MacLeod tracks Kalas to the nightclub, and as he listens
      to the young blues singer there, we get a flashback to Paris in the 1920's,
      and learn that Kalas, then a rising opera star, was resentful of MacLeod's
      part in getting Kalas thrown out of Brother Paul's monastery back in the
      1600's, and tries to kill a young friend of MacLeod's in revenge. He and
      MacLeod fight, and Kalas almost wins, except that Duncan grabs a shard of
      broken glass and slices Kalas' throat - a wound which never really heals,
      and which permanently destroys Kalas' prized singing voice, and gives him
      all the more reason to hate MacLeod.
      
      Back in the present, Kalas ends up at a bookstore, Shakespeare and Company,
      where he tortures and kills Don Saltzer, who was in charge of finding
      Methos. MacLeod, finds Saltzer dying, but he lives just long enough to imply
      to Mac that Kalas was hunting for Methos. The chief expert on the elusive
      Methos among the Watchers, Joe tells MacLeod, is Saltzer's protege, young
      Adam Pierson, who is obviously Kalas' next target. Off Duncan trots to find
      and protect Pierson.
      
      And then (in what is a brilliantly staged scene) we meet "Adam Pierson" as
      Duncan walks into Pierson's apartment, feels Immortal presence, looks around
      at objects both ancient and modern, spots an innocuous looking young man
      sitting on the floor listening to rock music, and the man looks up. He
      manages to look both innocent and wise, young and ancient, innocuous and
      dangerously deep, and Duncan instantly knows that this Immortal is far, far
      more than he seems. "Methos?" he asks in wonder and surprise, making a
      giant, intuitive leap of logic.
      
      Sure enough, Duncan has met the oldest of their kind, someone who he thought
      was only a myth. Methos, we learn, hides among the Watchers, hasn't fought
      in about 200 years, and makes no claim to great wisdom, just a talent for
      survival. Duncan volunteers to "stay close" to fend off Kalas, but Methos
      blithely tells him that Duncan can't fight his battles for him.
      
      (Oh, and there's a *really* boring subplot about Richie insinuating himself
      onto a motorcycle racing team. It goes on and on, with lots of pointless
      macho posturing and noisy machines racing around and around, going nowhere.)
      
      While Duncan and Methos are out getting acquainted, Kalas has found "Adam
      Pierson's" apartment, looked at the ancient books written in hieroglyphs,
      and reached the same conclusion about Pierson's true identity. When Methos
      returns, Kalas attacks. Methos' response is clumsy and he barely manages to
      escape as they both end up going off a bridge into the Seine.
      
      Next, it is night, and we see Duncan walking along under a bridge near his
      barge, reading Satre's appropriately titled "Being and Nothingness", when
      Methos appears, looking like a drowned rat, and unexpectedly attacks. Duncan
      asks why, but Methos answers, "Because there can be only One!"
      
      In seconds, Duncan has his katana at Methos' throat, but then slams down,
      forcing Methos' blade from his hand, refusing to take his head. Methos asks
      him if Duncan thinks is easy to die, after 5,000 years, but if MacLeod doesn
      't take his head, then Kalas will. "I cannot beat him. I have tried. He will
      take my head and then he will have the strength to take yours."
      
      "So after 5,000 years, your only solution is that I kill you?" Mac asks
      incredulously.
      
      "He can beat me. He might beat you! He can't beat both of us." He tells Mac
      it isn't a matter of who is the best fighter, it is a matter of passion and
      hate. "I don't have the fire," he says. "You do." Then he takes MacLeod's
      hand and moves the katana to his own neck. "Live, Highlander. Grow stronger.
      Fight another day."
      
      (Cut to more motorcycles going 'round and 'round. Yaaawn)
      
      Duncan goes back to Methos' apartment. Kalas has been waiting, expecting
      Methos. When he asks MacLeod where Methos is, he says, "It doesn't matter
      anymore, does it?"
      
      "You were after him, all along... I'll get Methos, when I get you!" Kalas
      snarls, and they fight, moving out of the apartment, to the same bridge
      where Methos and Kalas had fought earlier. MacLeod taunts Kalas, chipping
      away at his confidence as Kalas believes MacLeod now has the strength of
      Methos' Quickening.
      
      But along come the police, stopping the fight. MacLeod slips away and the
      police take Kalas into custody for the murder of Donald Saltzer, with "Adam
      Pierson" pointing a confused Kalas (who thought Methos was dead) out as the
      accuser and witness.
      
      Mac asks Methos why he stopped the fight, and he answers that he didn't know
      if MacLeod could beat him, and that it was a chance he couldn't take.
      "Remember, Highlander. Live, grow stronger. Fight another day." Mac watches
      him leave, then looks after the police cars taking Kalas away, obviously
      frustrated at not being able to finish the fight.
      
      In the tag, over the phone to Joe, who's still back in Seacouver, Mac tells
      him who Adam Pierson really is. "It was his little joke on you," he answers.
      "Adam, the first man?"
      
      Joe is irritated at himself for not figuring it out and says he'll be on the
      next plane to Paris, but Mac tells him not to bother, that Methos is gone.
      The camera pans back and Mac is in Methos' empty apartment. The only thing
      he finds left is the book by Sartre he had been reading the night Methos
      offered him his head.
      
      MY COMMENTS: This episode has as its singular attribute, the introduction of
      Methos, who projects instant, vibrant electricity on screen, and the
      fascination MacLeod feels for who and what he is, is palpable, as are the
      unseen depths in Methos' character. There are so many wonderful enigmas left
      in the wake of that event that we can't help but be desperate to see more of
      Methos, know more about him, learn a little about his vast past. Why did he
      let Duncan find him? Was it an act of trust based on what Methos knew of
      MacLeod from the Chronicles? Was there some other agenda going on? And what
      was with his offering of his head to Mac? I agree with Mac on this one: "So
      after 5,000 years, your only solution is that I kill you?" I don't really
      believe that (and you've got to wonder if Mac really believed it, either).
      Another interpretation is the old classic "show the alpha male your belly,
      and he won't hurt you" strategy. If he has Duncan MacLeod looking our for
      him (even though he *says* Duncan can't fight his battles for him), having
      such a protective Immortal friend can't hurt.
      
      What we see in this episode also belies the fannish notion I've frequently
      encountered that "Methos is really one of the best swordsmen in the world,
      and just 'pretends' otherwise around MacLeod." There is no one to pretend
      for as he flails away at Kalas. He looks neither graceful nor powerful, and
      almost loses his head. Methos isn't kidding when he tells Mac that he's
      rusty, and Peter Wingfield even tells us that he thinks that Methos'
      survival skills weren't about being the best fighter. Methos is a man of
      extraordinary wit and an expert on reading and anticipating human reactions
      and behavior, especially in moments of crisis when his life is on the line.
      
      We also learn that Methos is perfectly comfortable with deceit when it
      serves his purposes, as he smoothly lies to the police about being a witness
      to Saltzer's murder. And since it is obvious that interrupting the fight
      would piss MacLeod off, we also learn that Methos does what he thinks is
      best without regard to how others might feel about it. It also implies that
      Methos gives short shrift to the Rule about not interfering in an Immortal
      battle - giving rise to speculation about what other Rules Methos violates
      when it suits him.
      
      All this in the first episode where he is introduced, and during which he
      has relatively few lines. Whew.
      
      Oh, and does anyone give a rat's fuzzy behind about the motorcycle race, who
      won, who lost, or why?
      
      Not me.
      
      MacGeorge
      
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      Date:    Sun, 2 May 2004 00:00:55 -0500
      From:    Debra Douglass <ddoug@catrio.org>
      Subject: Bi-Monthly Reminder
      
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      Date:    Sun, 2 May 2004 19:12:10 EDT
      From:    Nancy C <NancySSCH@aol.com>
      Subject: Re: Season Three dvds:  Methos
      
      you're so right about methos and his enigmatic fascination and layers of
      duplicity as a character....yes, he must have meant it as a ruse...to offer
      macleod his head, all you can do is blame it on the intended arc for his poor
      fighting skills against kalas though.....if they were gonna dump him, they wanted to
      make it believeable....and so they did some clean up later and made him a
      better fighter, of course when xavier st.cloud showed up and blasted all the
      rules to hell it didnt matter any  more how good with a blade you were and methos
      also presaged that, but we dont find out until later....he was the most
      interesting and complex character in highlander and i never understood why they
      didnt give him his own show as the spinoff instead of amanda....and you're right
      again about poor richie and his race. maybe if richie learned to be more
      indirect he'd have lasted longer too, who knows...
      
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