HIGHLA-L Digest - 23 May 2003 - Special issue (#2003-89)
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Topics in this special issue:
1. Highlander stuff-Original movie
2. Old age (2)
3. season 1 trivia--part 2
4. season 1 trivia part 2--ANSWERS
5. trivia--Season 2, part 1 (3)
6. Eye For An Eye
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Date: Fri, 23 May 2003 10:18:32 -0700
From: FKMel <sgt_buck_frobisher@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Highlander stuff-Original movie
Re several of the posts (it's just easier LOL)
1. Speaking of the Kurgan in the church scene, am I
right in thinking that Heather never told Connor what
happened because she was afraid he'd want to hunt him
down and basically go postal, and get killed for good
in the process? It took a bit to figure it out, but
based on that death glare Connor gave Kurgan, and the
almost-fight, it seems that way.
2. I think I like the story about Connor giving the
sword to Duncan better. Just out of curiousity, does
it show up in Endgame? Or just Duncan's katana?
3.I was thinking, too, about the 'stand alone' thing.
No one knew there would be sequels (however
terrible)or a series and they would've had to tie it
off then in case no sequels were made. I don't see
why, considering their track record for sequels, they
want to try another one.
Mel, who thinks Kurgan is a good bad guy, but that
he's somewhat annoying at times (but not *nearly* as
annoying as the Sickening alien villians. Yuck.)
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Date: Fri, 23 May 2003 17:18:33 -0400
From: Sandy Fields <diamonique@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: Old age
Well I was gonna delve into Janine's post, but I was waiting till the
weekend when I can really dig my teeth into it.
But I see Wendy has gone and done it again. She's said everything I would
have said, so there's no point in my rehashing everything.
So I'll just say I agree with everything Wendy said. :-)
-- Sandy
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Date: Fri, 23 May 2003 12:18:37 -1000
From: MacWestie <mac.westie@verizon.net>
Subject: season 1 trivia--part 2
For Evil's Sake
Richie's unfortunate barge-warming present?
cheese-of-the-month club
When they 1st met in 1980, what Duncan & Tessa disagreed on?
Best vintage TV show--she said Gilligan's Island, while he argued for
classic Trek
Kuyler tells Duncan he has killed how many mortals?
24 & 3/4
Names of the 2 cops?
What cops? Paris doesn't have any cops either.
For Tomorrow We Die
Who plays Xavier St. Cloud?
Another pseudo-music star that worked cheap.
Which hand does St. Cloud lose?
Frank
The Beast Below
Name of Richie's singer girlfriend?
Like he cared about her name....
What Ursa keeps giving the diva?
The finger.
Where Richie follows Duncan after being specifically told not to?
The bathroom. (RR's very needy.)
Saving Grace
Name of Grace's murdered mortal lover?
Sap.
What Grace is doing when she & Duncan 1st meet?
Carlo, wasn't it?
Duncan's phrase to bid Grace goodbye?
"You are too boring & manipulative for words. Go far away & never guest on
my show again."
The Lady & the Tiger
The incriminating token Amanda leaves on Duncan's nightstand in the
flashback?
In Amanda's case, DM was lucky it wasn't the Baron's actual _finger_....
Duncan to Tessa, about Amanda-"She's just a bad _____."
hobbit
Avenging Angel
Where Richie is off on a trip?
Who cares--he's GONE.
Profession Elaine 1st tells Tessa she is in?
Rocket science. (And Tessa nods her head.)
Cahill's delusional identity?
Margaret Thatcher.
Nowhere to Run
Allan Rothwood's occupation?
Coffee taster.
Everett Bellian's military rank?
Megalomaniac (Ret.)
What Tessa cooks up in the Rothwood chateau kitchen?
macaroons for all the nice boys outside
Duncan to Bellian-"This isn't justice. This is _________."
a really, really bad episode, but The Zone will be worse
Nina
mac.westie@verizon.net
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Date: Fri, 23 May 2003 12:19:22 -1000
From: MacWestie <mac.westie@verizon.net>
Subject: season 1 trivia part 2--ANSWERS
season 1--the Paris episodes--
For Evil's Sake
Richie's unfortunate barge-warming present--a statue of Napoleon
Name of the shop Duncan uses to trace Kuyler, & what it sells--Bon Homme,
rare liquors (including illegal absinthe)
When they 1st met in 1980, what Duncan & Tessa disagreed on--Notre Dame's
completion date
Kuyler tells Duncan he has killed how many mortals-2760
Names of the 2 cops-Inspectors LeBrun & Sole
For Tomorrow We Die
Who plays Xavier St. Cloud--Roland Gift
Name of & problem w/ Richie's sophisticated French girlfriend-Renee, she is
married
Duncan's WWI regiment (according to his collar tabs)--#171
At what time does St. Cloud set the art benefit bomb to go off--9:00pm
Which hand does St. Cloud lose--left
The Beast Below
Color of Duncan's horse in the flashback (the 1st time he is seen
astride)--white
Ursa's abode when Duncan 1st meets him in the flashback--a cave
Name of Richie's singer girlfriend-Jenny
What Ursa keeps giving the diva--wild flowers
Where Richie follows Duncan after being specifically told not to--down into
the catacombs under The Paris Opera House
Saving Grace
Name of Grace's murdered mortal lover--Paul Warren
What Grace is doing when she & Duncan 1st meet--delivering a baby
How Carlo Sendaro loses his head--subway wheel
Duncan creates a passport for Grace in what name--Isabelle Pontand
Duncan's phrase to bid Grace goodbye-"May the winds be with you."
The Lady & the Tiger
Name of the circus--Diana Moreno Bormann Circus
The incriminating token Amanda leaves on Duncan's nightstand in the
flashback--Baron Holstein's stolen signet ring
Name 1 of Amanda's 2 famous lovers, purportedly-sculptor Rodin, Richard the
Lionheart
What Amanda & Blaine steal from the museum--a rare book/Guttenberg Bible
Duncan to Tessa, about Amanda-"She's just a bad _____." (habit)
Eye of the Beholder
What Richie objects to eating--shellfish
What Piton stole from the Marchessa--a pearl necklace
Who plays Piton--Nigel Terry
How Richie steals the cop's gun-by pretending to be blind
Item of jewelry that incriminates Piton in Cynthia's murder-her earring
Avenging Angel
Where Richie is off on a trip--Amsterdam
Name of Elaine's pimp--Dominick Battini
Profession Elaine 1st tells Tessa she is in-interior design
Cahill's delusional identity-Jacques de Molay, last leader of the Knights
Templiers
Color of the roses in Elaine's apartment-yellow
Nowhere to Run
Allan Rothwood's occupation--diplomat
Everett Bellian's military rank--Colonel (ret'd)
What Tessa cooks up in the Rothwood chateau kitchen--boiling oil
Who plays Allan Rothwood--Anthony Head
Duncan to Bellian-"This isn't justice. This is _________." (vengeance)
The Hunters
What Duncan & Fitz drink atop the barge--mead
Where Tessa cuts herself-back of her hand
Who pretends to step in doggie poop--Richie
How Darius marked the Chronicle's location for Duncan-w/ a scrap of his clan
tartan
Fitz to the killers--"It's been a grand ____." (romp)
Who plays Fitzcairn--Roger Daltrey
Nina
mac.westie@verizon.net
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Date: Fri, 23 May 2003 12:28:32 -1000
From: MacWestie <mac.westie@verizon.net>
Subject: trivia--Season 2, part 1
The Watchers
Series regular character who debuts in this episode?
According to the sign, what business is across the street from Dawson's
bookstore?
How the Chronicle saves Duncan in a fight?
Who plays James Horton?
Names of Horton's daughter & her Watcher boyfriend?
Studies in Light
The injury Duncan gets in the burning building?
Linda Plager's profession?
The year Duncan 1st met Linda Plager?
The disease Doc Gregor fights in the flashback?
Young Linda Plager to Duncan-"You can tell a lot about a man by his _____."
Turnabout
How Quentin Barnes is executed in 1960 & for what crime?
Series regular character who debuts in this episode?
Specific problem Charlie is having w/ the dojo facilities?
Name of Michael Moore's murdered lover, & the sentiment on her tombstone?
Who plays Moore/Barnes?
The Darkness
Who accuses Duncan of rape?
Who is to be Duncan's best man?
Address of the house where Tessa is held?
What Duncan uses to blind the renegade Watcher, & who gives him the item?
Duncan & Tessa's last words to each other?
Music backing the Tessa montage?
Eye for an Eye
Cost of a new water heater for the dojo?
Names of Annie's 2 dead husbands?
Rendezvous point for Annie's gang?
What Duncan uses to help sweet-talk Annie?
The toast Annie proposes & the toast Duncan insists on?
Duncan to Richie (about the sword)--"Take good care of it. Live w/ it.
Make it part of you. It might be the only ______ you have."
The Zone
Name of the bad guy Joe erroneously thinks is an Immortal?
How Tom McGee says he knows Duncan is not a Pinkerton?
What Asia uses to hit Duncan on the head?
Name 2 of the 4 martial arts forms Duncan & Charlie demonstrate at the dojo?
Charlie's military background?
The Return of Amanda
Duncan's cranky small appliance?
Duncan to Amanda-"I expect _______ to bite, too. Don't take it personally."
Name of Amanda's Berlin club?
How Amanda gets Duncan to tell her the name of his hotel?
Denomination of the counterfeit currency plates?
Name of the corrupt FBI agent?
Revenge of the Sword
Who plays Johnny Leong, & the other episode the actor appears in?
How the movie stuntman really dies?
What is the Black Hand?
Name of the business fronting for Johnny Leong's tong?
Name of Duncan's & Jimmy's friend at the Buddhist temple?
Nina
mac.westie@verizon.net
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Date: Sat, 24 May 2003 00:45:03 +0200
From: T'Mar <tmar@sifl.iid.co.za>
Subject: Re: Eye For An Eye
Wendy wrote:
>I have a feeling that Duncan will feel that way if he lives to be 1000.
>It is just too basic to his nature.
Oh, absolutely. But his flaws, if you like, are part of what makes
him such a fascinating character and, IMNSHO, what made the series
work.
>I agree that some of Duncan's attitudes are frozen in time (see above)
>And I think that Richie is disadvantaged by being "frozen" at a
>particularly awkward age. A 19 year old in 20th century American isn't
>a child but isn't yet an adult.
Very good point. (He can kill people but can't get into bars. That must
suck.) Which makes me wonder... what if Duncan had become Immortal
when *he* was 19? Would it have made much of a difference? Age 19 in
the 17th century would have been way different from age 19 in the 20th.
Just as the things kids growing up in urban South African society are
expected to know are no doubt way different from kids growing up in
the States (witness the Americans who freaked out over a character
introduced to the S.A. version of Sesame Street). But I don't think
it would have made much of a difference to *Duncan*. He would still
have seen himself as the future head of the clan, and would probably
have acted exactly the same.
>Richie didn't seem all that interested in learning his new "trade".
>(Which supports my theory that Richie hated and feared being Immortal
>and subconsciously, or consciously, sought his own death right from
>the first)
It could also just be a symptom of his life since his foster mother
died. It was all he ever knew, and whenever he was stressed out he'd
revert to what he knew. Like Duncan does when a female immie gives
him hassles.
Richie didn't seem (to me) like he hated being Immortal. I think he
hated *some aspects* of it. Like having to chop people's heads off.
Having to carry a sword around all the time. Knowing that he might
have to kill somebody he cared about one day. As he said to Kenny,
he did like some parts. (Like keeping his hair forever.)
>But Duncan didn't have anyone to tell him what had happened. Duncan
>didn't know he might live forever. Richie knew all the possibilities
>- both good and bad - from Day One.
And despite Methos telling Duncan how outdated the concept of chivalry
is, the man still doesn't listen! Why doesn't he? I mean, Methos is
like 4600 years older than him and should know these things!
>Richie was being a good friend - if they were mortal friends. What
>he couldn't seem to grasp was that he and Duncan were Immortals, that
>heads could roll, and that Duncan had a propensity for going crackers
>and trying to kill him<g>.
All that proves is that to maintain your health it's better to stay
the hell away from Duncan MacLeod.
>As I said before, I don't think Richie ever fully came to terms with
>his immortality and the reality of playing the Game. He wasn't raised
>to kill people. He wasn't raised to kill people close up with a big
>knife. He was a 20th century boy and the Game is very non-20th
>century. Unlike a lot of Immortals from earlier ages, he had not
>expected his life to be hard and brutal and filled with up-close-
>and-personal death. He didn't adjust well. He didn't want to adjust.
>He wanted to be mortal.
I don't agree with his wanting to be mortal (but I do agree with
not wanting to kill people). And, you know, there's nothing *wrong*
with not wanting to kill people. Some of the greatest activists of
the 20th century founded their lives on not killing people. (Trying
to avoid that Net problem of bringing up any names that signal the
death knell of any discussion. <g>) I *like* that Richie never
adjusted to killing people. Every immie duel he was in was a fair
fight and he won - but with the exception of Mako, he didn't *want*
to do it. Some people are warriors at heart - I agree that Richie
wasn't. Nick was - he became a cop, and then a detective. And he
decapitated a guy before he even *became* Immortal. (I liked that,
I have to admit.) But let's not disparage Richie for not wanting
to do that. And so yes, he died. But maybe better to die than to
turn into something you don't want to be. Death before dishonour. :)
And Duncan loved him. (Not, not that way, sheesh. You people need
to get your minds out of the gutter, you're crowding mine!) I think
that says more than anything else could.
- Marina.
\\ "Good girls go to heaven. ||>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> //
// Bad girls go to Smallville." || R I C H I E >> \\
\\ - 'Sorority Boys' wallpaper ||>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> //
//=======tmar@sifl.iid.co.za========|| \\
\\=======Chief Flag Waver and Defender of Richie=======//
"We all have our little faults. Mine's in California!"
- Lex Luthor; Superman The Movie
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Date: Fri, 23 May 2003 22:44:10 +0000
From: beccaelizabeth <r.day@netcom.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Old age
> C) While we have little or no evidence about the effects of viruses
>and bacteria on Pre-Immortals (if we accept that there *are*
>Pre-Immortals), it seems possible that they *do* get sick at a rate
>consistent with the mortal population. If they didn't - it would sooner
>or later draw attention to the little kids who never ever ever caught
>any disease.
no one noticed my grandpa never ever got sick until he did.
Age about 80.
He didnt have any medical records or anything because he'd never needed to see a
doctor before in his entire life.
Doctors dont tend to notice people as never go to them. They busy with the many
many who go to them a lot.
beccaelizabeth
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Date: Sat, 24 May 2003 00:55:59 +0200
From: T'Mar <tmar@sifl.iid.co.za>
Subject: Re: trivia--Season 2, part 1
Okay, I have some time to try this...
>The Watchers
>Series regular character who debuts in this episode?
Joe.
>Who plays James Horton?
Peter Hudson
>Studies in Light
>The injury Duncan gets in the burning building?
Burns his hand
>Linda Plager's profession?
Photographer
>The disease Doc Gregor fights in the flashback?
Cholera
>Young Linda Plager to Duncan-"You can tell a lot about a man by his _____."
Hands?
>Turnabout
>How Quentin Barnes is executed in 1960 & for what crime?
Electric chair, for serial murder?
>Series regular character who debuts in this episode?
Charlie.
>Specific problem Charlie is having w/ the dojo facilities?
The water heater's broken.
>Name of Michael Moore's murdered lover, & the sentiment on her tombstone?
Jeanette. "Eternal peace"? (Not after he bit her and... um, never
mind. Wrong show.)
>Who plays Moore/Barnes?
Geraint Wyn Davies.
>The Darkness
>Who accuses Duncan of rape?
The gypsy chick's brother or someone?
>Who is to be Duncan's best man?
Um, Richie?
>Music backing the Tessa montage?
"Dust in the Wind"
>Eye for an Eye
>Rendezvous point for Annie's gang?
The lighthouse
>Duncan to Richie (about the sword)--"Take good care of it. Live w/ it.
>Make it part of you. It might be the only ______ you have."
Friend. (The first time, I typed 'fiend'.)
>The Zone
>Charlie's military background?
He was a navy SEAL.
>The Return of Amanda
>Duncan to Amanda-"I expect _______ to bite, too. Don't take it personally."
Sharks.
>Revenge of the Sword
>Who plays Johnny Leong, & the other episode the actor appears in?
Dustin Nguyen. He was in "Road not Taken".
>How the movie stuntman really dies?
Poisoned?
- Marina.
\\ "Good girls go to heaven. ||>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> //
// Bad girls go to Smallville." || R I C H I E >> \\
\\ - 'Sorority Boys' wallpaper ||>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> //
//=======tmar@sifl.iid.co.za========|| \\
\\=======Chief Flag Waver and Defender of Richie=======//
"We all have our little faults. Mine's in California!"
- Lex Luthor; Superman The Movie
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Date: Fri, 23 May 2003 19:11:56 -0400
From: Becky Doland <becky@beckyjo.com>
Subject: Re: trivia--Season 2, part 1
> The Watchers
> Series regular character who debuts in this episode?
Joe
> According to the sign, what business is across the street from Dawson's
> bookstore?
Who looks across the street when AP's on the screen? Printing Shop? Dry
Cleaners?
> How the Chronicle saves Duncan in a fight?
Sheilds him from a bullet?
>
> Who plays James Horton?
Peter Hudson
> Names of Horton's daughter & her Watcher boyfriend?
Er.....Lynn? and somebody....
> Studies in Light
> The injury Duncan gets in the burning building?
Burns his hand.
>
> Linda Plager's profession?
Photographer.
> The year Duncan 1st met Linda Plager?
Hmmmm.....50 years ago.....1943?
> The disease Doc Gregor fights in the flashback?
TB? Plague? Warts?
> Young Linda Plager to Duncan-"You can tell a lot about a man by his
_____."
hehehe.....ummm....hands...... ;-)
> Turnabout
> How Quentin Barnes is executed in 1960 & for what crime?
Electrocuted
> Series regular character who debuts in this episode?
Charlie
> Specific problem Charlie is having w/ the dojo facilities?
Heating? Plumbing? Something like that....
>
> Name of Michael Moore's murdered lover, & the sentiment on her tombstone?
Clueless. Me that it, not the tombstone.
>
> Who plays Moore/Barnes?
Nick Knight
>
> The Darkness
> Who accuses Duncan of rape?
a gypsy?
>
> Who is to be Duncan's best man?
Ritchie
> Address of the house where Tessa is held?
Dunno
> What Duncan uses to blind the renegade Watcher, & who gives him the item?
A book of matches, which he tosses into the air and strikes with his sword.
Only a 1 in 10 gazillion shot there.
> Duncan & Tessa's last words to each other?
Geez, you'd think I'd remember that........
> Music backing the Tessa montage?
Dust In The Wind
>
> Eye for an Eye
> Cost of a new water heater for the dojo?
>
> Names of Annie's 2 dead husbands?
>
> Rendezvous point for Annie's gang?
>
> What Duncan uses to help sweet-talk Annie?
Sex! Works for me.
>
> The toast Annie proposes & the toast Duncan insists on?
>
> Duncan to Richie (about the sword)--"Take good care of it. Live w/ it.
> Make it part of you. It might be the only ______ you have."
Friend
> The Zone
> Name of the bad guy Joe erroneously thinks is an Immortal?
Canaan
> How Tom McGee says he knows Duncan is not a Pinkerton?
>
> What Asia uses to hit Duncan on the head?
>
> Name 2 of the 4 martial arts forms Duncan & Charlie demonstrate at the
dojo?
>
> Charlie's military background?
>
>
>
> The Return of Amanda
> Duncan's cranky small appliance?
>
> Duncan to Amanda-"I expect _______ to bite, too. Don't take it
personally."
sharks.
> Name of Amanda's Berlin club?
>
> How Amanda gets Duncan to tell her the name of his hotel?
>
> Denomination of the counterfeit currency plates?
>
> Name of the corrupt FBI agent?
Palance
> Revenge of the Sword
> Who plays Johnny Leong, & the other episode the actor appears in?
>
> How the movie stuntman really dies?
>
> What is the Black Hand?
>
> Name of the business fronting for Johnny Leong's tong?
>
> Name of Duncan's & Jimmy's friend at the Buddhist temple?
>
>
Geez, I am pathetic! Been too long since I watched most of these!
Pre-Methos tapes get much less wear at my house. ;-)
Becky
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