HIGHLA-L Digest - 11 May 2003 to 12 May 2003 (#2003-74)
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1. HIGHLA-L Digest - 10 May 2003 to 11 May 2003 - Special issue (#2003-73)
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2. DISCUSS: Future of HLFIC-L and HIGHLA-L (3)
3. Avenging Angel
4. PW in X2: Actual spoiler space! Woohoo! (5)
5. Slightly OT -- Rogues of Scotland pics
6. Hi, I'm new! (5)
7. Movie timeline (was "Hi, I'm new!") (4)
8. OT: Question on Andromeda
9. Highlander moment
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Date: Sun, 11 May 2003 22:47:50 -0400
From: Deborah Laymon <dejla@ix.netcom.com>
Subject: Re: HIGHLA-L Digest - 10 May 2003 to 11 May 2003 - Special issue
(#2003-73)
>Wendy(How can we R.I.P.?)(We haven't ever solved the question of whether
>Xavier's hand grew back.)
It can't. He's really dead this time. ;-)
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Deborah Laymon
dejla@ix.netcom.com
It's not true that life is one damn thing after another; it is one damn
thing over and over.
Edna St. Vincent Millay
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Date: Sun, 11 May 2003 23:05:53 -0400
From: Caroline Dechert <enilorac@voicenet.com>
Subject: Re: HIGHLA-L Digest - 10 May 2003 to 11 May 2003 - Special issue
(#2003-73)
>Wendy(How can we R.I.P.?)(We haven't ever solved the question of whether
>Xavier's hand grew back.)
Not to mention whether the hand grew a fresh Xavier.
Now, as for whether Adam is really Methos...
Caroline (not dead yet)
Caroline Dechert
enilorac@voicenet.com
"When the bird and the book disagree, always believe the bird."
... James Audubon
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Date: Mon, 12 May 2003 01:23:36 -0700
From: Pat Lawson <plawson@webleyweb.com>
Subject: Re: DISCUSS: Future of HLFIC-L and HIGHLA-L
you wrote:
> TCBO2 wrote:
> >and causing massive migration away to more carefully monitored, yet
> >also friendlier, "safer" lists
>
>Places with < shudder> "List Mommies" ??? <shudder>
Gawd how I hate that term. It's an insult to mothers everywhere. Let's
call it what it is, "List Censor".
Now some folks are more comfortable in a censored environment. Got no
problem with that. Until they try to make in universal of course. Or
hang out in the free world and complain cause it's not censored to their
liking.
TCBO2 again:
> >[For the last 2 years I've wondered 'n' wondered WHERE WAS DEBBIE...
> >to put a stop to Nasty N--a, The Toxic Destroyer of HIGHLA-L, but as
> >you indicate, Debbie's interest "is nowhere to be found."]
Repeat after me; The Delete Key is Your Friend. The Kill File is Your
Friend.
> > It *is* time to put to bed, permanently, both HLFIC-L & HIGHLA-L. R.I.P.
What *is* with this effort to kill the lists? I don't get it. If you're
at a party and find it boring, nasty, "unsafe" or in some other manor not
to your liking, do you hang around & complain, then tell everyone to leave?
TCBO2, how about starting a thread? Something about Highlander maybe?
Pat L.
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Date: Mon, 12 May 2003 01:35:05 -0700
From: Pat Lawson <plawson@webleyweb.com>
Subject: Re: Avenging Angel
Kamil wrote:
>:::::kicks the molded three legged beastie:::::
>Do you think that'd work as a way to consecrate the ground? The intent
>of the person involved in raising a shrine to whatever? Because I'm
>thinking of raising one to Orlando Bloom, and if it does, that'd be
>neat. Otherwise, how does one ever decide whose beliefs are good enough,
>or intense enough, or even just devotedly wicked enough to turn the
>place where they worship into HG? And who gets to decide in the first
>place?
There's a committee. It's the same committee which decides when a church
is a cult, and when a cult is a legitimate church. Membership is
hereditary, and they sign a blood-oath to keep their decision making
criteria secret. ;-p
Pat L.
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Date: Mon, 12 May 2003 07:06:28 -0500
From: Ginny <RED57@aol.com>
Subject: Re: PW in X2: Actual spoiler space! Woohoo!
<br>
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<span type="cite">Jill Gillham wrote:</span><br>
(insert primitive spoiler spaces)<br>
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<blockquote type="cite" > <tt>
And you know you've been watching too much Highlander When <br>
you expect the evil henchman he's playing to come back to life a <br>
little bit later just in time to get out of the Evil Lair. </tt></blockquote>
Ah HAH!! So THAT's what Methos has been up to. My word, Agenda Boy with
a vengeance. If the governments of the world concentrate on mutants,
they won't pay much attention to the strange rumors of people who keep
coming back to life. <br>
<span>--<br>
Ginny<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:RED57@aol.com">RED57@aol.com</a><br>
Fresh out of .sig lines</span>
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Date: Mon, 12 May 2003 07:16:00 -0500
From: Ginny <RED57@aol.com>
Subject: Re: DISCUSS: Future of HLFIC-L and HIGHLA-L
<br>
<br>
<span type="cite"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:jjswbt@earthlink.net">jjswbt@earthlink.net</a> wrote:</span>
<p> </p>
<blockquote type="cite" > <tt>
Wendy(How can we R.I.P.?)(We haven't ever solved the question of whether
Xavier's hand grew back.) </tt></blockquote>
How dare you! My Gosh! Heck! Darn! I do not endure! The old, old,
baseless canard about Xavier's hand. Bah! Ptui! <br>
<br>
It didn't NEED to grow back, it's perfectly happy doing the TV
nostalgia convention circuit wearing the old Hamburger Helping Hand
outfit. It even does its own signatures, except that someone has to
hold the paper down while it signs. <br>
<br>
(what? the list is R.I.P.?)((It's not even pining for the fjords))<br>
<span>--<br>
Ginny<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:RED57@aol.com">RED57@aol.com</a><br>
Fresh out of .sig lines</span>
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Date: Mon, 12 May 2003 09:29:32 -0400
From: Ace!Miracle <ke731458@pegasus.cc.ucf.edu>
Subject: Re: DISCUSS: Future of HLFIC-L and HIGHLA-L
On Sun, 11 May 2003 jjswbt@earthlink.net wrote:
> I might cry. I've always been sweetness and light here. Ask anyone.
Wait, I thought that was the Wendy-clone that fell in from the same
parallel dimension as all those copies of Highlander 2, Zeist version
(what second movie?)
> The same 50 people have always "carried" the discussion on this list.
That must be an awfully big bag. (rimshot!)
> Wendy(How can we R.I.P.?)(We haven't ever solved the question of whether
> Xavier's hand grew back.)
Would it grow back if he had been riding on a holy cow when he lost it?
And Ginny said:
> (what? the list is R.I.P.?)((It's not even pining for the fjords)
The list prefers kipping on its back! Remarkable plumage.
--Miracle (still here, and no longer an eternal grad student!)
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Date: Mon, 12 May 2003 10:07:51 -0500
From: Vicki Farmer <vickita1961@netscape.net>
Subject: Slightly OT -- Rogues of Scotland pics
It's only slightly OT, because the Rogues appeared at the Legacy
convention back in 2000, and they have "Bonny Portmore" on a couple of
their CDs, and I know there are a few folks hereabouts who are fans.
It's Renaissance fair season in this part of the world (when we're not
busy ducking tornadoes, gah), and I finally got my pictures posted from
the Norman, OK Medieval Fair, and the first and third weeks of
Scarborough Faire down by Dallas. Bunch o' pictures of the Rogues.
http://vickita.org/else/gallery/mf2003/index.html
http://vickita.org/else/gallery/scar2003/1/index.html
http://vickita.org/else/gallery/scar2003/3/index.html
Ignore the rest of the site. *g* It's all heavily under construction.
I'm rebuilding from the ground up, and it's only the impetus of
wanting to get these pictures posted that's got me off my duff to
actually *do* something about it.
Anyway, enjoy...
Vicki F.
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Date: Mon, 12 May 2003 11:23:02 EDT
From: Robin Tidwell <Robinchristine79@aol.com>
Subject: Hi, I'm new!
Hi, guys. Just wanted to introduce myself... My name is Robin, and I've been
a fan for a long time. I have a question for everyone. Can someone tell me
the timeline of how the movies were supposed to occur? And if the second
movie happened, how did Connor die in the last movie? The second movie
happened in the future, right? SO if Connor did die in the last movie, how do
you explain that? Sorry in advance if I''ve gotten things mixed up, but I've
been bugged by this for a while, and have just stumbled on the list.
Robin
robinchristine79@aol.com
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Date: Mon, 12 May 2003 08:54:57 -0700
From: Stephen Bryce <sibryce@yahoo.com>
Subject: Movie timeline (was "Hi, I'm new!")
Basically, the second and third movies have been
ignored altogether, so there's no need to wonder where
they are in the timeline. The first movie has always
taken place in 1985, but "Endgame" is a bit sketchy.
Since it was released in 2000 and simply referred to
as taking place in the present, I usually believe it
was supposed to be in 2000 and that flashback was a
continuity error (considering the series' track
record, this is probably the truth). However, D&P say
on the "Endgame" DVD commentary that the movie is in
fact supposed to be set in 2002 and thus there was no
error, but since the comment is the only evidence of
this, I for one don't buy it for a minute.
It's up to you, Robin. I hope this helps.
Stephen Bryce
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Date: Mon, 12 May 2003 17:16:02 +0100
From: Jette Goldie <jette@blueyonder.co.uk>
Subject: Re: PW in X2: Actual spoiler space! Woohoo!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ginny" <RED57@aol.com>
To: <HIGHLA-L@LISTS.PSU.EDU>
Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2003 7:58 PM
Subject: [HL] PW in X2: Actual spoiler space! Woohoo!
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> Oh, what the heck, here's some primitive spoiler spaces for old time's
sake:
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> I was hoping that Peter's character would survive to the end of the
picture, but unfortunately he was in a corridor with a bunch of other
heavily armed minions when the pins on their grenades suddenly decided to go
hang out with Magneto for a while. All of a sudden, no more minions.
>
I was just grateful that it wasn't Wolverine who "sliced and
diced" him - that might have caused some conflict of interest
for some of the audience ;-)
Jette (Logan fan since before the movies)
"Work for Peace and remain Fiercely Loving" - Jim Byrnes
jette@blueyonder.co.uk
http://www.jette.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/
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Date: Mon, 12 May 2003 17:18:19 +0100
From: Jette Goldie <jette@blueyonder.co.uk>
Subject: Re: OT: Question on Andromeda
says Marina
> I think you mean Teal'c? And AFAIK, it was him. Apprently Michael
> Shanks was in the same episode, wearing leather and being evil.
> (And since Saint Michael was in HL, this isn't off-topic, heh.)
Michael Shanks *was* in an episode of Andromeda - but
I don't think it was the same ep - unless he's been in another
since that one aired here in the UK. (we're currently
Andromeda-less)
Jette
"Work for Peace and remain Fiercely Loving" - Jim Byrnes
jette@blueyonder.co.uk
http://www.jette.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/
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Date: Mon, 12 May 2003 12:20:42 EDT
From: Robin Tidwell <Robinchristine79@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Movie timeline (was "Hi, I'm new!")
Thanks. It's been driving my husband and I crazy. Why have the second and
third movies been ignored?
Robin
robinchristine79@aol.com
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Date: Mon, 12 May 2003 21:54:16 +0530
From: jayeshm <jayeshm@softhome.net>
Subject: Re: Hi, I'm new!
Hi all
Consider me a lurker have been on this list for like umm cant even
remember anymore its been a few yrs :) jes wanted to say hi ! From india
a rabid fan here :)
Regards
Jay
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From: Highlander movies and TV series [mailto:HIGHLA-L@lists.psu.edu] On
Behalf Of Robin Tidwell
Sent: Monday, May 12, 2003 8:53 PM
To: HIGHLA-L@LISTS.PSU.EDU
Subject: Hi, I'm new!
Hi, guys. Just wanted to introduce myself... My name is Robin, and I've
been a fan for a long time. I have a question for everyone. Can
someone tell me the timeline of how the movies were supposed to occur?
And if the second movie happened, how did Connor die in the last movie?
The second movie happened in the future, right? SO if Connor did die in
the last movie, how do you explain that? Sorry in advance if I''ve
gotten things mixed up, but I've been bugged by this for a while, and
have just stumbled on the list.
Robin
robinchristine79@aol.com
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Date: Mon, 12 May 2003 12:40:28 EDT
From: Dawn Lehman <USTADAWN@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Hi, I'm new!
In a message dated 5/12/2003 11:28:39 AM Eastern Standard Time,
Robinchristine79@aol.com writes:
> Hi, guys. Just wanted to introduce myself... My name is Robin, and I've been
> a fan for a long time. I have a question for everyone. Can someone tell
> me
> the timeline of how the movies were supposed to occur? And if the second
> movie happened, how did Connor die in the last movie? The second movie
> happened in the future, right? SO if Connor did die in the last movie, how
> do
> you explain that? Sorry in advance if I''ve gotten things mixed up, but
> I've
> been bugged by this for a while, and have just stumbled on the list.
>
> Robin
>
Boy, my dear, have you opened a Pandora's Box!!! LOL Sit back and relax and
just anticipate the responses to come pouring in ............ ha. ha.
ha.ha....
Bye! (Old Timer back to lurking.....)
USTADAWN
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Date: Mon, 12 May 2003 11:22:29 -0700
From: Stephen Bryce <sibryce@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Movie timeline (was "Hi, I'm new!")
> Why have the second and third movies been ignored?
The second movie in particular, but the third as well
to a certain degree, SERIOUSLY contradicted the
original film (and in 3's case, the T.V. series as
well), but both films were just AWFUL as well, so the
producers probably thought it was better for everyone
to just write them off.
BTW, if you want further information on "Highlander
II" (or as some of us in fandom call it, "the film
that must not be named"), I suggest looking it up on
http://us.imdb.com/search, because you might not find
a lot of people here willing to talk about it (but
then again, I could be wrong).
Stephen Bryce
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Date: Mon, 12 May 2003 14:43:47 EDT
From: PWFan16@aol.com
Subject: Re: PW in X2: Actual spoiler space! Woohoo!
In a message dated 5/11/2003 2:58:54 PM Eastern Standard Time, RED57@aol.com
writes:
> Nothing really earth-shattering to add, but even though I knew in advance
> that Peter appears in X2 sporting an American accent, I was still surprised
> and tickled to see him. DH (dear hubby) was very, very surprised, as I
> hadn't bothered to tell him. At first he didn't believe me, because Peter
> sounded very un-Peterlike as an American henchman, goon, minion, or
> what-have-you
He used an American accent when he guested in John Doe as well
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Date: Mon, 12 May 2003 09:07:25 -1000
From: MacWestie <mac.westie@verizon.net>
Subject: Re: Movie timeline (was "Hi, I'm new!")
Robin--
>Why have the second and
> third movies been ignored?
They stank.
Nina (So, look for HL: Endgame to soon disappear for TPTB's purposes, too.
If we could figure out a way to erase HL:5 beforehand, it would save time.)
mac.westie@verizon.net
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Date: Mon, 12 May 2003 12:15:30 -0700
From: FKMel <sgt_buck_frobisher@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Hi, I'm new!
Hi....your name looks familiar. Are you on the Forever
Knight list? Cousin Robin, isn't it? (Sorry if that's
not you...but I think you are on at least one other
list with me) Anyway, welcome to the list.
Mel
The problem with immortality is that it tends to go on
forever
> > Hi, guys. Just wanted to introduce myself... My
> name is Robin, and I've been
> > a fan for a long time. I have a question for
> everyone. Can someone tell
> > me
> > the timeline of how the movies were supposed to
> occur? And if the second
> > movie happened, how did Connor die in the last
> movie? The second movie
> > happened in the future, right? SO if Connor did
> die in the last movie, how
> > do
> > you explain that? Sorry in advance if I''ve gotten
> things mixed up, but
> > I've
> > been bugged by this for a while, and have just
> stumbled on the list.
> >
> > Robin
> >
>
> Boy, my dear, have you opened a Pandora's Box!!!
> LOL Sit back and relax and
> just anticipate the responses to come pouring in
> ............ ha. ha.
> ha.ha....
>
> Bye! (Old Timer back to lurking.....)
>
> USTADAWN
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Date: Mon, 12 May 2003 15:29:35 EDT
From: Robin Tidwell <Robinchristine79@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Hi, I'm new!
Ahh...I've been found out!! Yep, Mel, it's me! I didn't know you were on this
list!!
Robin
robinchristine79@aol.com
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Date: Mon, 12 May 2003 16:47:05 -0400
From: KLZ3 <kzimmerman3@cox.net>
Subject: Re: PW in X2: Actual spoiler space! Woohoo!
Jette said:
> (L*g*n fan since before the movies)
>
:::: shudder :::: Has anyone told him?
ZK
S.D.G.
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Date: Mon, 12 May 2003 21:57:46 +0100
From: Jette Goldie <jette@blueyonder.co.uk>
Subject: Re: PW in X2: Actual spoiler space! Woohoo!
> Jette said:
>
>
> > (L*g*n fan since before the movies)
>
> >
>
> :::: shudder :::: Has anyone told him?
>
> ZK
Now that depends on which one you're talking about -
as for Wolverine........ I reckon he deserves better than
that red-headed witch! (and as for a certain other L*g*an
of our acquaintance.......... EWWWW!)
Jette
"Work for Peace and remain Fiercely Loving" - Jim Byrnes
jette@blueyonder.co.uk
http://www.jette.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/
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Date: Tue, 13 May 2003 01:22:17 +0200
From: igste <IGSte@t-online.de>
Subject: Re: Highlander moment
Delurking (must keep this list going ;-))
When I read your story, my first thought, before I read what your thoughts
were. also was about an Immortal committing suicide.
Here's another one:
Last weekend, in a small town in Aachen, a man was caught in a mall,
carrying a head and a "large knife". Imagine what I thought... Turned out
it was the head of his sister-in-law whom they found later. No mention of
Quickening damage though.
And about 3 weeks ago, in Basel, Switzerland, a collection of about a dozen
very valuable and up to 1200 year old katanas was stolen. So here I was
wondering (still not quite awake, it was in the morning news on the radio)
whether Duncan or Connor might no be living in Switzerland.
Oh my. Maybe they are living amon us????? <weg>
Helen
Marina Bailey schrieb:
>Had to mention this.
>
>Three days ago a guy walked into a Shoprite supermarket
>(South African chain store) and chopped off his own head
>with a meat saw.
>
>My first thought, of course, was, "So that's how an
>Immortal commits suicide."
>
>- Marina.
>
>\\ "I think somewhere on the road to reality, ||>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> //
>// you took a left turn." - Nowhere Man || R I C H I E >> \\
>\\====Marina Bailey====tmar@sifl.iid.co.za====||>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> //
>//===Chief Flag Waver and Defender of Richie==|| \\
>
>"It's Lord of the Flies in there!" - Josh; 'The West Wing'; about
>the forum on his fansite.
>
>
>
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