HIGHLA-L Digest - 17 Apr 2003 to 18 Apr 2003 (#2003-60)
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Topics of the day:
1. New Cut of Endgame? (4)
2. More alumni sightings.
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Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2003 21:55:50 -0700
From: FKMel <sgt_buck_frobisher@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: New Cut of Endgame?
But wasn't there an ep where a fortune teller told him
he would never marry? Would that have been set before
the marriage or after?
Mel, who can't remember the episode name
>
> --> i agree that HL4 came out lacking but, com'on,
> he was married one nite,
> and that was it, it was over. and would you want to
> admit what had happened
> to anyone else? duncan was a private man. i can
> accept that what happened in
> HL4 with respects to duncan having been married to
> not be too much a
> contrdiction...
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Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2003 22:04:35 -0700
From: Lynn <lloschin@sprynet.com>
Subject: Re: New Cut of Endgame?
From: "FKMel" <sgt_buck_frobisher@YAHOO.COM>
> But wasn't there an ep where a fortune teller told him
> he would never marry? Would that have been set before
> the marriage or after?
More than 100 years afterward -- 1848. The Endgame fb is 1715.
Lynn
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Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2003 06:09:19 -0700
From: Stephen Bryce <sibryce@yahoo.com>
Subject: More alumni sightings.
Hi guys.
I just saw the first episode of "Children of Dune"
(between having to tape it and the fact that it aired
a few weeks later in Canada than in the U.S.), and I
noticed that the guy who played Liam O'Rouke in "To
Be" and "Not to Be" played one of the more immediate
villains, named Scytale.
Stephen Bryce
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Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2003 10:49:52 -1000
From: MacWestie <mac.westie@verizon.net>
Subject: Re: New Cut of Endgame?
>>>But wasn't there an ep where a fortune teller told him
he would never marry? >>>
Well, a gypsy prophecy isn't exactly fool-proof.
But, DM told both Richie (in a Euro scene in The Darkness) & Anne
(Obsession) straight out that he'd never been married. OK-he might have
lied to Anne because she was generally meddlesome & looked like a chipmunk,
but WHY would DM have lied to Richie, particularly in that touching &
clearly heart-felt scene?
And, the whole tragically-never-married vibe ran through the series very
strongly. Is there anyone who, after watching 119 eps of HL:TS but before
seeing Endgame, who would have said there was any real possibility DM had
ever married?
The most irksome thing is that it wasn't _necessary_ to the movie's
plot that DM actually marry Her Overlippedness. In fact, it would have been
much more in character (for the DM we knew in the series) for DM to have
told his beloved about _his_ immortality _before_ the marriage, so she could
make a rational decision about how her life would be. After all, what did he
think he was doing to do--hide all the Immie battles from her? Plus, he
could have let her get used to _his_ immortality, then telling her _she_
could also be immortal-IF that's what she wanted. And, having seen Immie
life up close, maybe she would have passed on all the longevity & the
violence (as I think Tessa would probably have passed on it), or maybe she
would have chosen it for herself. Really, Kate's being a pre-Immie was the
best of all worlds, if handled correctly. Of course, the movie had DM
botching it 100%. Did he just let the girl run off, in a bloody nightie,
into the night? Did they ever get a divorce or annulment? Did they never
meet again, until the present? Didn't he explain immortality to her, at
least the basics, as he did for even the likes of Marek & Johnny K?
Shouldn't the movie have taken the time to tell us these things?
And, by the way, another related Endgame screw-up was Faith's statement that
DM had denied her children--that's plainly wrong; Line of Fire established
that even pre-Immies are sterile. Did Faith live 300 years as an Immie w/o
learning _anything_?
Nina (& DM's scabby knuckles in Endgame also irked me-like they didn't
realize we'd be staring at every facet of him?)
mac.westie@verizon.net
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Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2003 20:08:33 -0400
From: Becky Doland <becky@beckyjo.com>
Subject: Re: New Cut of Endgame?
> But, DM told both Richie (in a Euro scene in The Darkness) & Anne
> (Obsession) straight out that he'd never been married. OK-he might have
> lied to Anne because she was generally meddlesome & looked like a
chipmunk,
> but WHY would DM have lied to Richie, particularly in that touching &
> clearly heart-felt scene?
I don't think he lied, but a ceremony, reception, and one night of sex
doesn't make a marriage. It was one moment in 400 years that went bad, and
it didn't count as a real marriage. And probably not something he'd want to
explain.
> And, the whole tragically-never-married vibe ran through the series very
> strongly. Is there anyone who, after watching 119 eps of HL:TS but before
> seeing Endgame, who would have said there was any real possibility DM had
> ever married?
Even 119 eps doesn't tell us everything that happened during Duncan's entire
lifespan.
> The most irksome thing is that it wasn't _necessary_ to the movie's
> plot that DM actually marry Her Overlippedness. In fact, it would have
been
> much more in character (for the DM we knew in the series) for DM to have
> told his beloved about _his_ immortality _before_ the marriage, so she
could
> make a rational decision about how her life would be.
The key to your statement here is "for the DM we knew in the series".
Duncan changed a lot over the years, and by the time he was with Tessa he
had grown, learned from his mistakes, become much wiser. He handled these
things better. When he first knew Kate he was young & inexperienced at
relationships and life in general.
Becky
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