HIGHLA-L Digest - 9 Mar 2003 to 10 Mar 2003 (#2003-39)

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      There are 8 messages totalling 291 lines in this issue.
      
      Topics of the day:
      
        1. Slash? (4)
        2. Frivolity/ was: Re: Slash? (3)
        3. PW on Dead Zone/HL-ish book?
      
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      Date:    Mon, 10 Mar 2003 07:38:23 -0500
      From:    Elaine Nicol <ElaineN@compuserve.com>
      Subject: Re: Slash?
      
      Pat wrote:
      >>
      I've enjoyed this debate.  It's been a nice change. <<
      
      Yes it has been enjoyable.
      
      Pat wrote:
      >> Given current and imminent world affairs, arguing about fanfic seems
      silly.   It's a fun distraction for better times.  When we're on the bring
      of starting a war it seems frivolous. <<
      
      Your choice and of course it highlights part of the whole dilemma.  The
      object of terrorism is to stop people living their ordinary lives, so by
      doing that they win.  Remember we in the UK have lived with terrorism most
      of our lives.  I personally refuse to let anyone dictate what I can and
      will do in such a way, be that the IRA, ETA, Osama Bin Laden or George
      Bush.
      
      At the same time I believe in freedom of choice and if you wish to withdraw
      because you are spending more time on something else that is your choice,
      and needs no apology.    I had not posted anything in the discussion for a
      while I had nothing further to add, but I continued to follow it.   However
      your post feels as though it is saying that none of us should be doing
      anything which might be considered frivolous, I'm sure that's not what you
      meant though.
      
      Elaine.
      
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      Date:    Mon, 10 Mar 2003 10:31:46 -0500
      From:    KLZ3 <kzimmerman3@cox.net>
      Subject: Frivolity/ was: Re: Slash?
      
      >
      > Given current and imminent ...(snip)
      
      I think that there's a great deal to be said for frivolity during
      difficult times.  Frivolity is big business.  Shirley Temple
      movies, as well as movies portraying the Lives of the Rich,
      Famous, and Agile, with profusions of silky, clingy gowns and top
      hats, were very big during the Great Depression.  WWII, including
      the time  just before the US entered the war, gave us The Wizard
      of OZ and movies like The Women, and there were a whole lot of
      photos of Rita Hayworth and Betty Grable on barracks walls
      evrywhere.  Of course, WWII also gave us Casablanca.
      
      Now, if we could just come up with a decent alternative to the
      infernal combustion engine, I'd be thrilled.
      
      As for the current discussion, the only thing I noticed is that
      it got a bit - um - acerbic earlier than usual.
      
      ZK (Johnny Weismuller.)(Don't forget Johnny Weismuller in a
      loincloth)
      
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      Date:    Mon, 10 Mar 2003 17:17:11 -0000
      From:    "John Mosby (B)" <a.j.mosby@btinternet.com>
      Subject: Re: Slash?
      
      No problem, Pat. As you say, there are much more important things happening
      in the world.
      
      While having the uttermost repsect for any soldier and their families at
      such a difficult time and wishing to pass on my best wishes to all of those
      in such a situation , I feel very strongly about the climate of war rhetoric
      at the moment.  I have absolutely no doubt that it will be an imminent issue
      if discussion here and everywhere and I hope we can all have just as good an
      exchange of passionate and heartfelt views in that case too.
      
      John
      
      Who will be swayed neither by terrorism or sound-bites.
      
      
      
      ----- Original Message -----
      From: "Elaine Nicol" <ElaineN@compuserve.com>
      To: <HIGHLA-L@LISTS.PSU.EDU>
      Sent: Monday, March 10, 2003 12:38 PM
      Subject: Re: [HL] Slash?
      
      
      > Pat wrote:
      > >>
      > I've enjoyed this debate.  It's been a nice change. <<
      >
      > Yes it has been enjoyable.
      >
      > Pat wrote:
      > >> Given current and imminent world affairs, arguing about fanfic seems
      > silly.   It's a fun distraction for better times.  When we're on the bring
      > of starting a war it seems frivolous. <<
      >
      > Your choice and of course it highlights part of the whole dilemma.  The
      > object of terrorism is to stop people living their ordinary lives, so by
      > doing that they win.  Remember we in the UK have lived with terrorism most
      > of our lives.  I personally refuse to let anyone dictate what I can and
      > will do in such a way, be that the IRA, ETA, Osama Bin Laden or George
      > Bush.
      >
      > At the same time I believe in freedom of choice and if you wish to
      withdraw
      > because you are spending more time on something else that is your choice,
      > and needs no apology.    I had not posted anything in the discussion for a
      > while I had nothing further to add, but I continued to follow it.
      However
      > your post feels as though it is saying that none of us should be doing
      > anything which might be considered frivolous, I'm sure that's not what you
      > meant though.
      >
      > Elaine.
      
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      Date:    Mon, 10 Mar 2003 21:08:48 -0000
      From:    Jette Goldie <jette@blueyonder.co.uk>
      Subject: Re: Frivolity/ was: Re: Slash?
      
      > ZK (Johnny Weismuller.)(Don't forget Johnny Weismuller in a
      > loincloth)
      
      who can forget Johnny Weismuller in a loincloth?  :-)
      
      Jette
      (aka Vinyaduriel)
      "Work for Peace and remain fiercely loving" - Jim Byrnes
      jette@blueyonder.co.uk
      http://www.jette.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/
      http://bosslady.tripod.com/fanfic.html
      
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      Date:    Mon, 10 Mar 2003 16:24:06 -0500
      From:    Bizarro7@aol.com
      Subject: Re: Frivolity/ was: Re: Slash?
      
      >>> ZK (Johnny Weismuller.)(Don't forget Johnny Weismuller in a
      > loincloth)
      
      who can forget Johnny Weismuller in a loincloth?  :-)
      
      Jette<<
      
      Well...Chris Lambert made me forget Johnny Weismuller in a loincloth. Same Tarzan, different vintage.
      
      Leah
      
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      Date:    Mon, 10 Mar 2003 11:36:49 -1000
      From:    MacWestie <mac.westie@verizon.net>
      Subject: Re: Slash?
      
      Pat-
      
      > However I'm going to withdraw from the discussion for now.
      
      
      
      Alert the media..
      
      
      
      
      
      Pat-
      
      >>>Given current and imminent world affairs, arguing about fanfic seems
      silly.   It's a fun distraction for better times.  When we're on the bring
      of starting a war it seems frivolous.>>>
      
      Post here--an entertainment-related email list--or don't post; suit
      yourself.  But _please_ keep your sanctimonious generalities to yourself.
      
      
      
      Nina (and, frankly, it wasn't THAT frivolous, as these things go)
      
      mac.westie@verizon.net
      
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      Date:    Mon, 10 Mar 2003 16:52:18 -0500
      From:    "a.j.mosby@btinternet.com" <a.j.mosby@btinternet.com>
      Subject: Re: Slash?
      
      Nina
      
      You made some good points in this thread - ones we'll probably come back to
      again and again.
      
      Don't ruin it.
      
      John
      -who knows that the way you leave the stage is as important as what you do
      on it.
      
      
      
      
      
      Original Message:
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      From: MacWestie mac.westie@verizon.net
      Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 11:36:49 -1000
      To: HIGHLA-L@LISTS.PSU.EDU
      Subject: Re: [HL] Slash?
      
      
      Pat-
      
      > However I'm going to withdraw from the discussion for now.
      
      
      
      Alert the media..
      
      
      
      
      
      Pat-
      
      >>>Given current and imminent world affairs, arguing about fanfic seems
      silly.   It's a fun distraction for better times.  When we're on the bring
      of starting a war it seems frivolous.>>>
      
      Post here--an entertainment-related email list--or don't post; suit
      yourself.  But _please_ keep your sanctimonious generalities to yourself.
      
      
      
      Nina (and, frankly, it wasn't THAT frivolous, as these things go)
      
      mac.westie@verizon.net
      
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      Date:    Mon, 10 Mar 2003 21:48:14 -0500
      From:    Heidi <heidi@apocalypse.org>
      Subject: Re: PW on Dead Zone/HL-ish book?
      
        From: mama bear <parisrose_2@yahoo.com>
        Here it is - the "regular" book - not sci-fi/fantsy or romance that has
        definite HL references is "Forever" by Pete HAmill
      
      I read several descriptions of the book and the closest name to any-
      thing HL-ish was the fact that last name of the main character was
      O`Connor. None of the other names mentioned had any HL connection
      so that doesn't seem to be the book I had heard about. That one had
      names of several series, not movie, characters. To the folks who
      sent book title/author guesses, thanks anyway.
      
      =}{=
      
      (heidi@apocalypse.org)
      
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