HIGHLA-L Digest - 14 Nov 2002 to 15 Nov 2002 (#2002-201)

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      Topics of the day:
      
        1. DVDs (2)
        2. Highlander The Series (4)
        3. might be kinda OT, but DVDs.....commercial
        4. various replies
      
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      Date:    Thu, 14 Nov 2002 22:55:50 -0600
      From:    Ann Ford <aford@austin.rr.com>
      Subject: Re: DVDs
      
      From: "Barbara" <barbara@northerntel.net>
      
      > I don't know what the lowest price has been so far, but
      deepdiscountdvd.com
      > has season one for 53.99, no shipping charges.
      
      I got them from BestBuy.com for that price - no shipping charges.  And they
      even arrived a few days before the release date. (Not having the same luck
      with LOTR EE and Star Wars II - good price, slow delivery).
      
      > And anyone who had problems with their DVDs, please e-mail me off list and
      > let me know what happened. I'm having odd quirks, but when I rewind and
      > replay it, it's fine, so I don't know if they really are flaws or not.
      
      Haven't even had a chance to break the seal on them yet.
      
      Ann Ford
      aford@austin.rr.com
      
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      Date:    Thu, 14 Nov 2002 23:32:59 -1000
      From:    MacWestie <mac.westie@verizon.net>
      Subject: Re: Highlander The Series
      
      Lynn--
      > I also
      > don't have an interest in Westerns -- that doesn't mean I think they all
      > suck.  I'm sure there are good Westerns, they just aren't my cup of tea.
      > Not having an interest in something is a far cry from judging its quality.
      
      But, you obviously have a vital & long-term interest in Highlander--we all
      do here.  And I strongly doubt anyone cares about HL _because_ it so often
      sucks.  Logically, each of us likes that part of HL that does not, per our
      individual opinions, suck.
      
      So, you've been interested in HL overall to date; _you_ even liked Endgame
      (or at least you adored the editing of it).  If HL5's premise doesn't
      interest you at all as a long-term fan, then you _are_ judging it & finding
      it to be lacking in quality.  And that's everyone's right. Personally, I'll
      probably go see the damned thing, just in case a miracle happens & it's
      decent.  But I think HL:TS was a fluke.  After all the disappointments,
      freakishly idiotic decisions, lies, & fraudulent shenanigans re: every
      aspect of the franchise, I will never trust DPP about _anything_ ever again.
      
      
      > Lynn (still, unfortunately, from the web interface)
      
      Quit whining.  Or just let the guy w/ a gun to your head (the one who is
      forcing you to read & respond to my list messages) do his worst.
      
      Nina
      mac.westie@verizon.net
      
      Save Farscape/Frell SciFi Channel
      http://homepage.mac.com/chryse/Guiding%20Star/Cancelled.html
      http://www.farscapeworld.com/helpfarscape.shtml
      
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      Date:    Fri, 15 Nov 2002 01:39:51 -0800
      From:    Aimer <aimer@warewolf.net>
      Subject: might be kinda OT, but DVDs.....commercial
      
      I just saw a breakdown looking for a non-union male voiceover artist for a
      commercial for the Highlander DVDs. It's going to recorded next week in
      L.A.. Well at least they're advertising something....sigh.
      
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      Date:    Fri, 15 Nov 2002 07:19:33 -0500
      From:    Heidi <heidi@apocalypse.org>
      Subject: Re: DVDs
      
        From: Barbara <barbara@northerntel.net>
        I don't know what the lowest price has been so far, but deepdiscountdvd.
        com has season one for 53.99, no shipping charges.
      
      I had thought about ordering from them until I found out they ship
      by US Mail rather then something like UPS. (where you'd have the
      advantage of being able to track the package and them usually not
      leaving it sitting outside if no one is home.)
      
        From: Ann Ford <aford@AUSTIN.RR.COM>
        I got them from BestBuy.com for that price -no shipping charges.[..]
        Haven't even had a chance to break the seal on them yet.
      
      I went over to a Best Buy last night and picked it up for $59.99. All
      I've had a chance to watch so far is the Bloopers but I was amused to
      see there's a post card inside you can use to send away for a HL Store
      catalog.
      
      =}{=
      
      
      (heidi@apocalypse.org)
      
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      Date:    Fri, 15 Nov 2002 08:22:14 EST
      From:    Bizarro7@aol.com
      Subject: Re: various replies
      
      In a message dated 11/14/2002 8:08:32 PM Eastern Standard Time,
      Highlandmg@aol.com writes:
      
      
      > Hi
      >
      > Call me sheep or anything else you want .. I still liked the movie... I see
      > the old name calling and nastiness has returned to the site.. One wonders
      > if
      > you don't care about any new movies why do you care enough to post.
      >
      >
      > Mary
      
      I've actually been wondering the same thing for quite some time. Perhaps it's
      the rush one gets from reflexively attacking everyone and everything that
      appears on the list. It doesn't seem to have much to do with the fandom,
      anymore, as that is regarded as inferior and contemptable. I suppose it's the
      compulsion for any sort of attention, positive or negative, and this is one
      technique to feed it.
      
      Leah
      
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      Date:    Fri, 15 Nov 2002 08:29:14 EST
      From:    Bizarro7@aol.com
      Subject: Re: Highlander The Series
      
      In a message dated 11/14/2002 8:19:02 PM Eastern Standard Time, kamil@cox.net
      writes:
      
      
      > I've discovered that I'm not really a Highlander Universe fan, I'm a
      > Highlander the Series fan. I realize it's nigh upon heresy to confess to
      > this, but the first movie was oh-so hard for me to sit through, mostly
      > because I was snickering over the silliness of it all. And CL's acting,
      > and the utter silliness that was the Kurgan, but that's a whole 'nother
      > Oprah. <g> And four out of five people here will think I'm nuts now, but
      > that's okay too.
      >
      
      I don't feel particularly fannish about the movie series characters or events
      either, Kamil, so you're not alone. It's the TV series and characters that I
      fell in love with, and I eventually realized why; the movie is obsessed with
      the preservation of "There Can Be Only One," an idea that's very appealing if
      you're young and into games and warfare. But the TV series couldn't function
      without changing the concept to "There Can Be A Bunch," so that Duncan could
      have fascinating friends and allies who were Immortals too, without his
      having to kill them. Only evil Immies needed to die by the end of the
      episode. This meant the opportunity for character development and interaction
      *besides* the warfare and survival rules built into HL universe Immortality,
      and that's the part I like best.
      
      Leah
      
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      Date:    Fri, 15 Nov 2002 08:30:21 EST
      From:    Bizarro7@aol.com
      Subject: Re: Highlander The Series
      
      In a message dated 11/14/2002 8:23:12 PM Eastern Standard Time,
      lloschin@sprynet.com writes:
      
      
      > I said I wouldn't have an interest in it.  There's a big (and obvious)
      > difference between not having an interest in something based on a small
      > amount of information and judging its quality (saying it sucks).  I also
      > don't have an interest in Westerns -- that doesn't mean I think they all
      > suck.  I'm sure there are good Westerns, they just aren't my cup of tea.
      > Not having an interest in something is a far cry from judging its quality.
      >
      >
      
      Aha! That was me in the 70's, until I discovered Spaghetti Westerns.
      
      Leah
      
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      Date:    Fri, 15 Nov 2002 12:43:56 -0500
      From:    Lynn <lloschin@sprynet.com>
      Subject: Re: Highlander The Series
      
      On Thu, 14 Nov 2002 23:32:59 -1000 MacWestie <mac.westie@VERIZON.NET> wrote:
      
      > Lynn--
      > > I also
      > > don't have an interest in Westerns -- that
      > doesn't mean I think they all
      > > suck.  I'm sure there are good Westerns, they
      > just aren't my cup of tea.
      > > Not having an interest in something is a far
      > cry from judging its quality.
      >
      > But, you obviously have a vital & long-term
      > interest in Highlander--we all
      > do here.
      
      I do not have an interest in the movies except to the extent that they
      incorporate characters (and to a far lesser degree, themes and concepts) seen
      in the series.  I did not see HL 1 until well after I started watching the
      series.  I thought the first movie was interesting -- given what I knew from
      the series -- but I certainly wouldn't have given it a second thought if it
      hadn't been for the series.  My interest in HL 2 and 3 was nonexistent.  My
      only interest in Endgame was in the fact that characters from the series were
      included.  So saying that I have an interest in the movies absent the series
      isn't true.
      
      > So, you've been interested in HL overall to
      > date; _you_ even liked Endgame
      > (or at least you adored the editing of it).
      
      Your oversimplification is inaccurate, as usual, but you aren't interested in
      accuracy, only twisting words to fit your so-called arguments.
      
      > If
      > HL5's premise doesn't
      > interest you at all as a long-term fan, then
      > you _are_ judging it & finding
      > it to be lacking in quality.
      
      No, I'm not.  I'm simply saying I don't have an immediate, compelling interest
      in it if it doesn't incorporate the characters I already know.  If it comes
      out and I hear it's fantastic, will I go see it?  Sure I will.  I am not
      judging the quality of anything, no matter how much you seem to want that to
      be the case. I believe you can't judge something until you've seen it.
      Period.
      
      > And that's
      > everyone's right. Personally, I'll
      > probably go see the damned thing, just in case
      > a miracle happens & it's
      > decent.  But I think HL:TS was a fluke.  After
      > all the disappointments,
      > freakishly idiotic decisions, lies, &
      > fraudulent shenanigans re: every
      > aspect of the franchise, I will never trust DPP
      > about _anything_ ever again.
      
      And I'm sure they are just totally heartbroken about that.
      
      > > Lynn (still, unfortunately, from the web
      > interface)
      >
      > Quit whining.  Or just let the guy w/ a gun to
      > your head (the one who is
      > forcing you to read & respond to my list
      > messages) do his worst.
      
      Why bother?  Your nasty words, uncivil tone, and generally dreadful demeanor
      on this list speak for themselves. Usually, ignoring you works just fine and I
      plan to go back to that at the very earliest opportunity.
      
      Lynn
      
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