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      Topics in this special issue:
      
        1. DVD's
        2. The Void ... Amanda Tapping interview (4)
        3. Opposite and Smale Sex warning:  (was-   Re: [HL] 'The Void' on           
           SABC
        4. HL DVD's (2)
        5. Opposite and Smale Sex warning:  (was-   Re: [HL] 'The Void'             
           on              SABC
        6. 'The Void' on SABC (5)
        7. ADMIN: Spoilers for other first-run series (2)
        8. Stargate backstory request (with spoiler space just in case) (2)
        9. Opposite and Same Sex warnings now
      
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      Date:    Sat, 3 Aug 2002 18:40:50 -1000
      From:    MacWestie <mac.westie@verizon.net>
      Subject: Re: DVD's
      
      Kamil--
      > Besides, you've heard me castigate someone before, Nina. That was barely a
      > snark, more on the level of a sleepy grump. <g>
      
      Well, everyone KNOWS how sensitive I am, & I just felt all this messy
      empathy....  I feel & give too much, you know?  Kindness is a burden.
      
      
      Claire Li--
      >>>So, Lynn, here is one consumer who did
      try to play the dvd's on multiple players in spite of your claims to the
      contrary.>>>
      
      No comment--I just wanted to see that again.
      
      >>>So, Lynn, here is one consumer who did
      try to play the dvd's on multiple players in spite of your claims to the
      contrary.>>>
      
      And again.
      
      
      Lynn--
      >>>My point (which seems to have been lost in the muddle) is that not
      *every*
      problem is attributable to a bad disc, and that it wasn't a conclusion that
      should be immediately leapt to, as some people have.>>>
      
      There's that pesky "some people" again.  Let's just shoot them.
      
      
      Mary--
      >>>I am begining to think if people see highlander store
      they see inferior Products.>>>
      
      Gee, I wonder why?  Just realized they haven't called lately at a supremely
      inopportune time (like, 3am) to lie to me; I'm hurt.
      
      Nina (In the interests of fairness, K-Mart has just as crappy a selection of
      cafe curtains as Walmart....Penney's, Macy's, & a dozen mail order
      companies. God, I HATE to sew! Could be time to really "get to know" the
      neighbors.)
      mac.westie@verizon.net
      
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      Date:    Sat, 3 Aug 2002 23:55:55 -1000
      From:    MacWestie <mac.westie@verizon.net>
      Subject: Re: The Void ... Amanda Tapping interview
      
      >>>Marina. (I've always enjoyed the fights more than anything, and I
      suspect you have, too. Are we just weird?)>>>
      
      W/o a doubt.
      
      
      Red57 (about AP fantasy guesting on Farscape)--
      >>>I think I'm having an attack of the vapors. But unfortunately, unless he
      makes a hell of a debut, he'd probably be wearing a red shirt with those
      black leather pants. ;)>>>
      
      As fiendish as Farscape's TPTB are, he'd be in a Scorpie suit, mask & all.
      Ick........................  But, thanks for the leather pants bit.
      
      
      Voice of Reason (OK, it's Wendy)--
      > How can you say that! The woman *didn't* want her intimate bits touching
      AP's intimate bits. That
      > "freaky" by definition! There are any number of otherwise sane women (and
      a fair number of
      > Canadians)  who would pay money to have their intimate bits placed in
      close proximity to AP's
      > intimate bits.
      
      Whew.  I thought it was just me--who was willing to admit it.  And adult
      women who blush annoy me on principle.
      
      
      I have no idea who originally said this--
      > > >Besides, she's right. Jack O'Neil is the best. <g>
      
      Um--I had heard O'Neil was crusty but his barely-there manner in S6 of SG1
      puzzles me.  Has the character had an alien-induced stroke or something?  Or
      does RDA have a problem learning dialogue?  It feels to me like he's got his
      one-liners scribbled in his palm.
      
      
      > > Wendy(McGuyver was best)
      
      Nope--Kirk was (just _please_ don't make me look at Shatner now).  Actually,
      Spock was best.  (Slashers--I know, but please don't.)
      
      
      Ginny:
      > Would the main character be called "Dirk" or something?
      
      Wendy--
      >>>Oh yes. And he would be tall and strong and well educated (by school or
      by life) and he would be able to fix a broken car (or airplane) and drink
      bourbon all night without getting stupid drunk. He could handle himself in a
      fight  (swords, knives, guns *and* fists) and in bed. He is a loner..but
      willing to give himself totally to the right woman. All women find him
      attractive...many fall in love with him. He has rugged features..doesn't
      consider himself handsome - but he *does* have that "little boy" quality
      that men think women find so attractive <eg> He will manage to win the
      battle, bed the woman, solve the crime, and walk away assured in his skin
      and ready for another day. >>>
      
      Ah--that WOULD be Dirk--Clive Cussler's Dirk Pitt, who (except for his
      much-touted deep green eyes) I've long said would be a nice role for AP.
      
      
      List Goddess1812--
      <<<Debbie (Ben Browder was ...ok... in the first few seasons of Farscape
       but I guess he sort of grows on you. Adrian still has him beat six
       ways to Sunday in the sexy department though - especially with his
       shirt off)>>>
      
      I confess--if I had to pick just ONE of those guys to lustily
      ogle/assiduously follow the professional advances of, it would be very
      tough.  So, it's lucky for me there's no limit to fandoms.  As for the
      shows, Farscape is mesmerizing in a totally different way from Highlander, &
      personally I've always preferred sci-fi to fantasy genre-wise.  And Farscape
      has another big plus over HL--a future.
      
      Nina (oh--& Farscape's DVDs seem to work....)
      mac.westie@verizon.net
      
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      Date:    Sun, 4 Aug 2002 00:29:37 -1000
      From:    MacWestie <mac.westie@verizon.net>
      Subject: Re: Opposite and Smale Sex warning:  (was-   Re: [HL] 'The Void' on
               SABC
      
      [Re: the subject line--"Smale"?  Typo or ???]
      
      me before--
      > > I was told they paid gay guys for inside scoop & brand names of the best
      > > lubricants.  (How stupid must those gay guys think fanfic writers
      are???)
      
      
      Kamil--
      > Oh come on, Nina. Seriously?
      
      Seriously, I DO recall someone (I'd have said it was you, actually, but I
      guess not) posting to another list (Wendy's, probably) during a slash debate
      that the intimate details for the sex scenes in slash often came from
      experts, so to speak, who supplied groups of writers for purposes of
      verisimilitude, inventive magnificence, consumer protection, what have you.
      It sounded rather odd to me, but then so much of any slash debate does....
      Probably someone was just toying w/ wee me.  And, no, I certainly didn't
      save the posts.
      
      As for the rest of your post--sorry, but *ewww.*  Still, no blushing.
      
      Nina (life needn't be THAT complicated--get a cat)
      mac.westie@verizon.net
      
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      Date:    Sun, 4 Aug 2002 10:51:21 +0100
      From:    "John Mosby (B)" <a.j.mosby@btinternet.com>
      Subject: Re: HL DVD's
      
      Lynn's right. A handful of problems with a few DVDs don't indicate a control
      problem with that product. Even the best manufacturers and suppliers will
      have the ocassional blip.
      
      However, I think it would be fair to say that the company's selling
      techniques, their frequency for distorting the truth, their unwilingness to
      sort out problems that some people have  encountered for months (a Big well
      known Highlander fan was recently told that the money he's been owed by them
      for eighteen months is now null and void because they are operating as a new
      company) generally leaves a bad taste in the mouth and a sense of distrust.
      Not everyone has had problems with the Store - but enough people have to
      make it a genuine concern.
      
      While I don't think the conclusion was accurate, and that the Store's
      problems have more to do with supply and attitude...I don't blame anyone
      whose first reaction was 'Dang...a duff product!'  Just always worth
      checking first.
      
      John
      
      
      
      
      
      ----- Original Message -----
      From: "Lynn" <lloschin@sprynet.com>
      To: <HIGHLA-L@LISTS.PSU.EDU>
      Sent: Sunday, August 04, 2002 2:26 AM
      Subject: Re: [HL] HL DVD's
      
      
      > From: "Claire Li" <clairesa@OPTONLINE.NET>
      >
      >
      > > I am apparently one of those "under 10" people that Lynn is referring to
      > who
      > > complained about "defective" HL dvds.
      >
      > Claire, yes, you are... in fact you're the only person on this list I
      recall
      > making such a complaint.
      >
      > I clearly said that there probably *were* some bad discs out there.  A few
      > isolated problems with a few discs are not indicative of a widespread
      > "quality control problem" with the HL DVDs as some people apparently
      > believe.  Any look at a general home theater forum will show that almost
      > every DVD release has isolated cases of bad discs.
      >
      > My point (which seems to have been lost in the muddle) is that not *every*
      > problem is attributable to a bad disc, and that it wasn't a conclusion
      that
      > should be immediately leapt to, as some people have.
      >
      > Lynn
      
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      Date:    Sun, 4 Aug 2002 13:28:46 +0100
      From:    Jette Goldie <jette@blueyonder.co.uk>
      Subject: Re: Opposite and Smale Sex warning:  (was-   Re: [HL] 'The Void'
               on              SABC
      
      Nina:
      
      > [Re: the subject line--"Smale"?  Typo or ???]
      >
      > me before--
      > > > I was told they paid gay guys for inside scoop & brand names of the
      best
      > > > lubricants.  (How stupid must those gay guys think fanfic writers
      > are???)
      >
      >
      > Kamil--
      > > Oh come on, Nina. Seriously?
      >
      > Seriously, I DO recall someone (I'd have said it was you, actually, but I
      > guess not) posting to another list (Wendy's, probably) during a slash
      debate
      > that the intimate details for the sex scenes in slash often came from
      > experts, so to speak, who supplied groups of writers for purposes of
      > verisimilitude, inventive magnificence, consumer protection, what have
      you.
      > It sounded rather odd to me, but then so much of any slash debate does....
      > Probably someone was just toying w/ wee me.  And, no, I certainly didn't
      > save the posts.
      >
      
      I don't need to save the posts - I have a close friend who
      writes slash fanfic and yes, she does get "details" from
      gay male friends.
      
      Jette
      (aka Vinyaduriel)
      "Work for Peace and remain fiercely loving" - Jim Byrnes
      jette@blueyonder.co.uk
      http://www.jette.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/
      http://bosslady.tripod.com/fanfic.html
      
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      Date:    Sun, 4 Aug 2002 09:33:27 EDT
      From:    Bizarro7@aol.com
      Subject: Re: 'The Void' on SABC
      
      Thanks for the info on the Witchblade universe, Ustadawn. Convoluted and
      fascinating, I guess I like the show because it takes it for granted that you
      can follow what's going on without having it explained to death onscreen.
      
      Leah
      
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      Date:    Sun, 4 Aug 2002 08:37:50 -0500
      From:    Debra Douglass <ddoug@catrio.org>
      Subject: Re: The Void ... Amanda Tapping interview
      
      On 8/3/2002, on HIGHLA-L@lists.psu.edu, MacWestie wrote:
       >>List Goddess1812--
      (Now I've become a DRD... No... wait ... I am one. This is too weird.
      <beep beep zap>)
      
       >><<<Debbie (Ben Browder was ...ok... in the first few seasons of Farscape
       >> but I guess he sort of grows on you. Adrian still has him beat six
       >> ways to Sunday in the sexy department though - especially with his
       >> shirt off)>>>
       >>
       >>I confess--if I had to pick just ONE of those guys to lustily
       >>ogle/assiduously follow the professional advances of, it would be very
       >>tough.  So, it's lucky for me there's no limit to fandoms.  As for the
       >>shows, Farscape is mesmerizing in a totally different way from Highlander, &
       >>personally I've always preferred sci-fi to fantasy genre-wise.  And Farscape
       >>has another big plus over HL--a future.
      
      For me the beauty of Farscape has always been that it is an ensemble
      show, even with all the cast changes. Granted Crighton is the lead
      character but he would be nothing without the others and that's how
      the writers write it and that's how it is directed and produced. The
      makers of Highlander:TS never learned how to do that.
      
      -Debbie
      --
      .------------------------------------------------------------------.
      |Debra Douglass          ddoug@catrio.org     http://www.catrio.org|
      `------------------------------------------------------------------'
      
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      Date:    Sun, 4 Aug 2002 09:57:51 EDT
      From:    Bizarro7@aol.com
      Subject: Re: HL DVD's
      
      In a message dated 8/3/02 9:47:55 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
      Highlandmg@aol.com writes:
      
      << I agree here with Lynn as I have returned a movie or two when it did not
      work
       in my player. I returned two disks Bravheart and The Sixth Sense.  My
       Highlander series dvd have been watched and re watched much to my enjoyment.
       I have had no problems I am begining to think if people see highlander store
       they see inferior Products. >>
      
      Quite apart from the three defective DVDs in our house, we just picked up the
      first season set of QUEER AS FOLK and had to go back to the store for another
      copy *three* separate times; the Borders Books manager told us the entire
      case they'd received and sold was coming back; the whole thing was apparently
      defective.
      
      Leah
      
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      Date:    Sun, 4 Aug 2002 09:58:59 EDT
      From:    RED57@aol.com
      Subject: Re: ADMIN: Spoilers for other first-run series
      
      In a message dated 8/3/2002 11:34:19 AM Central Daylight Time,
      tmar@sifl.iid.co.za writes:
      
      
      > Thanks, Debbie. I was wondering if I'd now have to start sifting
      > through HIGHLA-L messages trying to avoid Stargate spoilers.
      >
      > (I assume the spoilers are only for the season currently being
      > shown?
      
      Darn, my apologies to everyone that follows Stargate. I hadn't stopped to
      consider that viewers in other countries won't be seeing it on the same
      schedule we have in the US.
      
      I'd always assumed I was a year behind, anyway, since we don't have Showtime
      and the repeats we were watching on the other cable channel were from the
      previous season to whatever Showtime was running. But since it's now moved to
      the SciFi channel, the episodes I'm watching are now "current" and spoilable
      to others outside the US.
      
      Debbie - where's the whip?
      
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      Date:    Sun, 4 Aug 2002 10:01:16 EDT
      From:    RED57@aol.com
      Subject: Re: 'The Void' on SABC
      
      In a message dated 8/3/2002 1:18:55 PM Central Daylight Time,
      jjswbt@earthlink.net writes:
      
      
      > Oh yes. And he would be tall and strong and well educated (by school or by
      > life) and he would be able to fix a broken car (or airplane) and drink
      > bourbon all night without getting stupid drunk. He could handle himself in
      > a fight  (swords, knives, guns *and* fists) and in bed. He is a loner..but
      > willing to give himself totally to the right woman. All women find him
      > attractive...many fall in love with him. He has rugged features..doesn't
      > consider himself handsome - but he *does* have that "little boy" quality
      > that men think women find so attractive <eg> He will manage to win the
      > battle, bed the woman, solve the crime, and walk away assured in his skin
      > and ready for another day. In other words..he is just your typical
      > "guy"..an everyman to the nth degree. <barf>
      >
      
      Whoa. Sounds like Tom Selleck or Harrison Ford. But the character would
      always be named "Dirk." I'm not sure, but I think Clive Cussler has been
      writing about this guy for a while.
      
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      Date:    Sun, 4 Aug 2002 10:04:41 EDT
      From:    RED57@aol.com
      Subject: Re: The Void ... Amanda Tapping interview
      
      In a message dated 8/4/2002 4:56:41 AM Central Daylight Time,
      mac.westie@verizon.net writes:
      
      
      > Ah--that WOULD be Dirk--Clive Cussler's Dirk Pitt, who (except for his
      > much-touted deep green eyes) I've long said would be a nice role for AP.
      >
      >
      
      Hah! I knew it! although the original thought of naming the male-MS character
      "Dirk" had nothing to do with Mr. Cussler's books at all.
      
      Heh. Never mind.
      
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      Date:    Sun, 4 Aug 2002 10:14:38 EDT
      From:    RED57@aol.com
      Subject: Stargate backstory request (with spoiler space just in case)
      
      In a message dated 8/4/2002 4:56:41 AM Central Daylight Time,
      mac.westie@verizon.net writes:
      
      
      > Um--I had heard O'Neil was crusty but his barely-there manner in S6 of SG1
      > puzzles me.  Has the character had an alien-induced stroke or something?
      > Or
      > does RDA have a problem learning dialogue?  It feels to me like he's got
      > his
      > one-liners scribbled in his palm.
      >
      >
      
      
      
      Incoming remarks about a show not all may have seen:
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      I'm not sure myself, so I'd appreciate knowing if the "injury" that O'Neill
      suffered in one episode that kept him off the team for a while was to cover a
      real-life injury or not. Also, he was out of commission carrying around a
      symbiote for a while. That's another thing I'm not entirely clear on, (the
      symbiote plot point with some characters), since the first 4 years of this
      show aired a year behind on the cable channel we had, and I missed a lot of
      backstory owing to never remembering to set the VCR.
      
      As for the one liners, he's always struck me as a terse kind of guy who
      preferred to let all the scientists jabber away in their opaque lingo, and
      let them think he was just a dumb military jock who likes to blow stuff up.
      Was he a lot more jabbery himself in the early seasons?
      
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      Date:    Sun, 4 Aug 2002 15:28:01 +0100
      From:    "John Mosby (B)" <a.j.mosby@btinternet.com>
      Subject: Re: Stargate backstory request (with spoiler space just in case)
      
      Okay, I haven't seen any of the eps past Frozen yet, but having been on set
      during Season Six......spoilers ahead.
      
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      > I'm not sure myself, so I'd appreciate knowing if the "injury" that
      O'Neill
      > suffered in one episode that kept him off the team for a while was to
      cover a
      > real-life injury or not.
      
      Yes. RDA injured his knee quite badly during the break between seasons. He's
      recovering/ed nicely, but it meant that for a while he was unable to be seen
      running and jumping. He's received treatment and there should be no serious
      long-term effects.
      
      
      > Also, he was out of commission carrying around a
      > symbiote for a while. That's another thing I'm not entirely clear on, (the
      > symbiote plot point with some characters), since the first 4 years of this
      > show aired a year behind on the cable channel we had, and I missed a lot
      of
      > backstory owing to never remembering to set the VCR.
      
      Due to events in the Frozen episode this season, Jack faced the prospect of
      having to be a host to a Tok'ra symbiote to save his life. RDA actually had
      another project he was working on and so they arranged shooting scenes to
      help with his schedule and wrote him out of one episode. Despite rumours to
      the contrary and presuming the the current schedule remains on track,
      O'Neill/RDA should be in every other episode this season.
      
      
      > As for the one liners, he's always struck me as a terse kind of guy who
      > preferred to let all the scientists jabber away in their opaque lingo, and
      > let them think he was just a dumb military jock who likes to blow stuff
      up.
      > Was he a lot more jabbery himself in the early seasons?
      
      Open to question. Certainly the wise-cracks are still there. :)
      
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      Date:    Sun, 4 Aug 2002 17:15:25 +0200
      From:    Marina Bailey <tmar@sifl.iid.co.za>
      Subject: Re: ADMIN: Spoilers for other first-run series
      
      Ginny wrote:
      >Darn, my apologies to everyone that follows Stargate. I hadn't stopped to
      >consider that viewers in other countries won't be seeing it on the same
      >schedule we have in the US.
      
      Well, here in the good old R of SA we've only seen up to the
      end of the second season (the last ep shown was "1969"; apparently
      overseas countries don't get the cliffhangers until the *next*
      season). So anything after that would be MAJOR spiolage.
      
      Which doesn't explain why I'm whining about missing Daniel. :)
      
      - Marina.
      
      \\  "You've heard it said that living well is  ||>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  //
      //   the best revenge? Au contraire - living   || R I C H I E >>  \\
      \\   forever is the best revenge." - Lacroix   ||>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  //
      //=====Marina Bailey====tmar@sifl.iid.co.za====||                 \\
      \\=============Chief Flag Waver and Defender of Richie============//
      
      "A starship also runs on loyalty to one man, and nothing can replace
      it or him." - Spock to Kirk; TOS ("The Ultimate Computer")
      
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      Date:    Sun, 4 Aug 2002 17:15:28 +0200
      From:    Marina Bailey <tmar@sifl.iid.co.za>
      Subject: Re: The Void ... Amanda Tapping interview
      
      >>Are we just weird?)>>>
      >W/o a doubt.
      
      'Kay. Just checking. I'd hate if it was only me.
      
      >Nope--Kirk was (just _please_ don't make me look at Shatner now).  Actually,
      >Spock was best.  (Slashers--I know, but please don't.)
      
      Now you've done it. How can I fight with someone who says Spock
      was best? :)
      
      I won't make any slashy remarks. How about a quote, instead?
      *Snicker* "Captain, please... not in front of the Klingons."
      (Begging your forgiveness, Nina! BTW, regarding your other
      post... I'm allergic to cats.)
      
      >(oh--& Farscape's DVDs seem to work....)
      
      I've never <touch wood> had a problem with Region 2 DVDs (including
      Farscape) except for the Stargate SG-1 DVDs that say "This DVD is
      not web enabled". Does anybody know what that might mean? Not that
      I planned on buying the SG-1 Region 2 DVDs, because they're not in
      the right order, and some even have first and second season eps
      mixed up.
      
      - Marina. (Who kind liked MacGyver, too.)
      
      \\  "You've heard it said that living well is  ||>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  //
      //   the best revenge? Au contraire - living   || R I C H I E >>  \\
      \\   forever is the best revenge." - Lacroix   ||>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  //
      //=====Marina Bailey====tmar@sifl.iid.co.za====||                 \\
      \\=============Chief Flag Waver and Defender of Richie============//
      
      "A starship also runs on loyalty to one man, and nothing can replace
      it or him." - Spock to Kirk; TOS ("The Ultimate Computer")
      
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      Date:    Sun, 4 Aug 2002 12:52:09 -0500
      From:    Kamil <kamil@slashcity.com>
      Subject: Re: Opposite and Same Sex warnings now
      
      <Nina>
      [Re: the subject line--"Smale"?  Typo or ???]
      
      Typo, caused by massive denial over the fact that I need to get reading glasses
      in the worst way. Which normally wouldn't be a problem, but lo those many years
      ago, when I had my RK the eye doc told me they'd under-correct me so that when I
      became "middle aged" I wouldn't need to get bifocals or reading glasses.
      
      Ya know, if the guy had just left the "m-a" word off, my life would be sooo much
      easier these days. :)
      
      me before--
      > > I was told they paid gay guys for inside scoop & brand names of the best
      > > lubricants.  (How stupid must those gay guys think fanfic writers
      are???)
      
      Kamil--
      > Oh come on, Nina. Seriously?
      
      > Seriously, I DO recall someone (I'd have said it was you, actually, but I
      guess not) posting to another list (Wendy's, probably) during a slash debate
      that the intimate details for the sex scenes in slash often came from
      experts, so to speak, who supplied groups of writers for purposes of
      verisimilitude, inventive magnificence, consumer protection, what have you.
      It sounded rather odd to me, but then so much of any slash debate does....
      Probably someone was just toying w/ wee me.
      
      Like that'd ever happen. <g> Seriously, okay, now I remember what you're talking
      about, and yeah, it was me. But I wasn't talking about "paid gay guys for inside
      scoop & brand names of the best lubricants." Especially the paying part. <g>
      Most of us gals already know how to make correct lube choices, all of the
      details on anal sex, etc.
      
      I was referring to Minotaur, a gay slash writer who has often jokingly offered
      to 'test drive' sexual situations for his fellow listees, and/or the casual
      observer who might happen to visit his website, see his "selfless offer"
      (snerk), and get sucked in. Erm, so to speak. LOL Seriously, occasionally he
      gets work helping out with multiple partner scenes and other odds and ends.
      
      Oh for a different phrasing.
      
      <Jette>
      > I don't need to save the posts - I have a close friend who> writes slash
      fanfic and yes, she does get "details" from> gay male friends.
      
      I can see where that might come in handy, for writers who meet Wendy's profile
      or who have a somewhat, erm, less adventurous past. :) I did finally met a few
      of those folks who fit that profile of yours, Wendy, aka the folks who have
      never made The Sex, in any of its forms. At least if they have, one couldn't
      tell it from looking at them. <eg> Quite an eye opening experience -- and
      interestingly enough, I realized 'so *that's* why they can't write sex worth a
      damn'. <weg> Or write about men in general, for that matter.
      
      Just to have some form of comparison, I wrote down the first seven slash writing
      friends who came immediately to mind, and of those seven, five are married,
      three with children, and the other two -- well, if they've never made The Sex --
      they surely do like to flirt, and have no doubt left many, many sad and
      disappointed men and/or women in their wake. <weg>
      --
      Kamil
      Vic: "Promiscuous? Let me tell you about promiscuous. Promiscuous is anyone
      having more sex than you."
                      " Queer as Folk"
      
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      Date:    Sun, 4 Aug 2002 14:12:06 -0400
      From:    KLZ3 <KZIMMERMAN3@cox.net>
      Subject: Re: 'The Void' on SABC
      
      > I think I'm having an attack of the vapors. But unfortunately, unless he
      > makes a hell of a debut, he'd probably be wearing a red shirt with those
      > black leather pants. ;)
      
      Nope.  One of those sickening yellow and green shirts that his
      aunts keep giving him.
      
      ZK
      
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      Date:    Sun, 4 Aug 2002 14:22:42 -0400
      From:    KLZ3 <KZIMMERMAN3@cox.net>
      Subject: Re: 'The Void' on SABC
      
      I just haven't been able to get into a series to the obsession
      level since HL.  I think it spoiled me for the rest of TV.  I
      keep comparing everything to HL: "Oh, yeah, they did that in
      [insert name of ep] and it was better cuz..."  I was really taken
      by Stargate for a few seasons but I got so annoyed at them last
      year for holding new eps that I cancelled Showtime and got
      high-speed internet access instead.  Harrumph.
      
      I watched (most of) Dante's Peak last night; Brosnan's still got
      the best profile since John Barrymore, though I had trouble
      seeing him as a geeky vulcanologist.  He just stands out too
      much.  The first series I got really attached to since - um - The
      Man From Uncle?, was Remington Steele (OBHLR: Gillian Horvath has
      often said that Remington Steele got her started on her path to
      being a TV writer). In any case, the whole movie, I kept
      wondering if getting covered up in a lava flow would count as
      decapitation and if there were an immie vulcanologist around,
      would he get the quickening?
      
      It's pretty pathetic when my favorite shows are Animal Precinct,
      Pet Psychic (oh be quiet Wendy), and So Weird.  I'm getting a lot
      of reading done, though.
      
      ZK (actually, the forest service truck must have been immortal;
      didn't blow up bumping over a lava flow)
      
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      Date:    Sun, 4 Aug 2002 14:27:01 -0400
      From:    KLZ3 <KZIMMERMAN3@cox.net>
      Subject: Re: 'The Void' on SABC
      
      > If anyone's been following DEAD ZONE, I've noticed that the hero's eerie
      > abilities give the writers the opportunity to do flashbacks on the show,
      > despite the fact that nobody is Immortal. Very well written, so far.
      
      I like that one too - possibly because of the clever way they do
      flashbacks.  It's a bit more - um - LSD-like - though, than the
      HL flashbacks.  I keep wondering when Johnny is going to blink.
      I don't think he's blinked so far.  It is a refreshing flashback
      in itself to HL, though.
      
      ZK (No, dad-gummit, I never used it but the whole danged decade
      was psychedelic)(Volcano shows.)(I like volcano shows too)(And
      the Sunday Night Lifetime lineup (Jury's still out on For the
      People but I like The Division)
      
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