HIGHLA-L Digest - 19 Oct 2001 to 21 Oct 2001 (#2001-285)
Automatic digest processor (LISTSERV@LISTS.PSU.EDU)
Sun, 21 Oct 2001 22:00:02 -0400
There are 15 messages totalling 620 lines in this issue.
Topics of the day:
1. The Who (5)
2. OT: Tracker - AAACK! (2)
3. OT: I've Seen Tracker!(spoilers) (8)
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2001 20:56:22 -0700
From: Tammee <tkilburn@ecentral.com>
Subject: The Who
Did anyone catch The Who's set at the
concert for NY on VH1?
Holy smokes they brought the house down!
Dam Dam Dam! do they look good, and still
rock so hard. When Roger started on the harmonica,
I thought I was going to pass out! LOL hahahahah
it was fantastic, totally wild, and to see all the heroes
in the audience dance, go wild and have some fun, it
was a very very special moment.
Tammee
------------------------------
Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2001 01:44:42 -0600
From: Barbara Osgood Designs <hairbows@northerntel.net>
Subject: OT: Tracker - AAACK!
I was planning to catch it on the NY Fox station at midnight my
time. Apparently, baseball ran longer than expected and Mad TV, Stargate,
and X-Files all started an hour and forty minutes later than they were
supposed to. So, here I am at 1:40 am, X-Files is over, my finger is ready
on the "record" button, and M*A*S*H IS ON INSTEAD!!! ACK, ACK, ACK! Does
anyone know if they will show the premiere next week on this station, or
what? I'm debating whether or not to sit through M*A*S*H and see if it's
on after that. Sigh.
Barbara
------------------------------
Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2001 04:44:12 -0400
From: Bill Cohane <w.cohane@verizon.net>
Subject: Re: OT: Tracker - AAACK!
At 03:44 10/21/01, Barbara Osgood Designs wrote:
>I was planning to catch it on the NY Fox station at midnight my
>time. Apparently, baseball ran longer than expected and Mad TV, Stargate,
>and X-Files all started an hour and forty minutes later than they were
>supposed to. So, here I am at 1:40 am, X-Files is over, my finger is
>ready
>on the "record" button, and M*A*S*H IS ON INSTEAD!!! ACK, ACK, ACK! Does
>anyone know if they will show the premiere next week on this station, or
>what? I'm debating whether or not to sit through M*A*S*H and see if it's
>on after that. Sigh.
My TV Guide (Brooklyn Queens edition) has Tracket scheduled to show
tonight (Sunday) at 11 PM on Channel 9 (UPN in NY City). Same episode
as the one we missed due to the baseball.
Regards,
Bill
------------------------------
Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2001 13:55:38 EDT
From: PWFan16@aol.com
Subject: OT: I've Seen Tracker!(spoilers)
Not to many just a few GRENERAL comments
s
p
o
i
l
e
r
s
It said it aired from 4:05AM this morning to 5:05 but I set my VCR for 4-5:50
and missed I think the first minute or so.
Anyway I had not really read anyhting about it except that he was a bounty
hunter on Earth tracking fugitives and that Geraint Wyn Davies was a bad guy.
He is obviously and alien in a created body. You never see what he looked
like just energy, then he somes across a billboard with a pic of a model(AP)
in his underwear ala Calvin Klein except that is is Cole and he creates that
image for his human body and takes the name Cole later.
So we get AP running around in his tighty whities for a lot of the show.
He cant talk and can barely walk but slowly acclimates as the show went on.
Kinda like Jeff Bridges in Starman.
The actess that played opposite him I liked a lot. She has that fast talking
neurotic thing going on and it worked.
I was scared when I realized that the former WWF Chyna was the evil guest
star but she was OK. GWD did not show up until the last 5 min and they are
definelty going to be exploring their relationship. You could tell by their
brief conversation
Stunts were cool and so were the camera angels. It looks sometimes like time
slows down matrix style.
Over all I really liked it but 4AM on Sunday morning is not going to be
getting big ratings.
Lora
------------------------------
Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2001 14:25:18 EDT
From: RED57@aol.com
Subject: Re: The Who
My fellow Listanistas
In a message dated 01-10-20 22:29:47 EDT, you write:
> Did anyone catch The Who's set at the
> concert for NY on VH1?
> Holy smokes they brought the house down!
> Dam Dam Dam! do they look good, and still
> rock so hard. When Roger started on the harmonica,
> I thought I was going to pass out! LOL hahahahah
> it was fantastic, totally wild, and to see all the heroes
> in the audience dance, go wild and have some fun, it
> was a very very special moment.
>
> Tammee
Wow, that concert was GREAT, and The Who's set just tore up the stage. I got
a kick out of seeing wrap the microphone cord around himself - did he do
that before his acting stint on Highlander, or did he maybe pick it up from
Anthony DeLongis? I know he used to whirl the microphone around, but I was
strongly reminded of the master of bullwhips.
Also, I was reminded of a very small and intimate concert a few years back,
dancing our collective butts off to Jim Byrnes' band with Roger Daltry giving
it a go on a few blues tunes. Ah, good times!
(sekrit message to Her Godessnessness: Hiya!!)
&detail-disoriented
Ginny
"the unofficial" RED57@aol.com (she's lookin' right at 'im)
The Fabbleous New B File: highlander-info@midrange.com
Highlander Chicago List: highlander-chicago-sub@midrange.com
"No HTMLs were beheaded by the Internet in this .sig"
------------------------------
Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2001 14:46:19 EDT
From: RED57@aol.com
Subject: Re: OT: I've Seen Tracker!(spoilers)
My fellow Listanistas
In a message dated 01-10-21 13:56:40 EDT, Lora writes:
> Not to many just a few GRENERAL comments
>
> s
> p
> o
> i
> l
> e
> r
> s
>
>
>
>
>
> It said it aired from 4:05AM this morning to 5:05 but I set my VCR for 4-5:
> 50
> and missed I think the first minute or so.
Did you see the effects with the electricity right at the beginning? At that
point, I turned to my hubby and said "Looks like Lightning Boy's got a new
job, eh?" Also, we thought the scene with the disabled car at the railroad
crossing was a visual quote of the well-known scene in "Close Encounters."
> Anyway I had not really read anyhting about it except that he was a bounty
> hunter on Earth tracking fugitives and that Geraint Wyn Davies was a bad
guy.
>
<snip>
There was an article in the Chicago Trib the other day - if anyone would like
to read it, you can find it at
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/chi-0110200036oct20.story
The gist of the article is that Adrian has a deal where he executive produces
the show, gets to direct a few episodes, and gets to direct a couple of
feature films for Lions Gate.
The tone of the story wasn't very positive (the writer points out the
derivative nature of the plot), and this impression (on me at least) wasn't
overcome by the way the first episode of Tracker played out.
> in his underwear ala Calvin Klein except that is is Cole and he creates
that
> image for his human body and takes the name Cole later.
>
> So we get AP running around in his tighty whities for a lot of the show.
That had its good points - the premise was pretty amusing, and he looked
good. ;) Adrian obviously has worked hard to get in shape - the words "six
pack? more like a half rack" came to mind. However, the way he walked around
in the "tighty whities" scenes were so stuff and unnatural that it looked
pretty silly. And they went on and on and on. Some will not have a problem
with this, however. I just thought they could have actually told more story.
> He cant talk and can barely walk but slowly acclimates as the show went on.
> Kinda like Jeff Bridges in Starman.
Emphasis on the "slow" in "slowly acclimates." They spent at least half of
the first episode establishing that he was literally taking baby steps in
learning how to get around on Earth. Then he messed around making a bad-being
detector out of a PC and the bar's microwave oven. The whole show dragged (at
least until he got to Mel's bar) until the action sequences near the end,
when he finally caught up with his nemesis of the week, Chyna.
<snip>
>
> I was scared when I realized that the former WWF Chyna was the evil guest
> star but she was OK.
She wasn't too bad - she was rather good as a robotic evil nemesis, but her
character had "taken on a human form" or some such and so her verbal and
motor skills were a lot smoother than Adrian's character. She was actually
pretty good delivering her few lines.
>GWD did not show up until the last 5 min and they are
> definelty going to be exploring their relationship. You could tell by
their
> brief conversation
Brief's the word. Almost all the exposition came in the last 15 minutes of
the show, plus there was one really good fight scene. However, I don't know
why they kept switching back and forth between film and video, sometimes in
the same scene. Maybe it had to do with some of the effects they were using.
There were a lot of things left unexplained, though.
In my area - Chicago- the show is on the UPN affiliate at 10pm Saturday, but
is also on at 5AM Friday? Strange.
Sorry to say it, but my Dear Husband and I, both HL fans from long back, had
to only give this show half a season. Something really amazing would have to
happen in the next episode or two to change that assessment.
<snip>
>
&detail-disoriented
Ginny
"the unofficial" RED57@aol.com
"No HTMLs were beheaded by the Internet in this .sig"
------------------------------
Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2001 14:54:26 -0400
From: Elaine Nicol <ElaineN@compuserve.com>
Subject: Re: The Who
>> I got
a kick out of seeing wrap the microphone cord around himself - did he do
that before his acting stint on Highlander, <<
Yes he did.
>> The Who's set just tore up the stage. <<
They used to do that literally.....
Elaine, giving away her age. :-)
------------------------------
Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2001 12:13:43 -0600
From: Barbara Osgood Designs <hairbows@northerntel.net>
Subject: Re: OT: I've Seen Tracker!(spoilers)
At 10/21/2001 01:55 PM -0400, PWFan16@aol.com wrote:
>Not to many just a few GRENERAL comments
>
>s
>p
>o
>i
>l
>e
>r
>s
>
>
>
>
>
>So we get AP running around in his tighty whities for a lot of the show.
More AAACKs!! Damn that baseball! I hope Fox NY shows this ep next week.
Barbara
------------------------------
Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2001 20:17:14 +0100
From: Jette Goldie <jette@blueyonder.co.uk>
Subject: Re: The Who
>
> >> The Who's set just tore up the stage. <<
>
> They used to do that literally.....
>
> Elaine, giving away her age. :-)
And hotel rooms ;-)
Jette (who's not that far behind Elaine)
"Work for Peace and remain fiercely loving" - Jim Byrnes
jette@blueyonder.co.uk
http://www.jette.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/fanfic.html
------------------------------
Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2001 20:31:21 +0100
From: "John Mosby (B)" <a.j.mosby@btinternet.com>
Subject: Re: The Who
For those in UK, the concert is now been shown on VH1 here.
John
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jette Goldie" <jette@blueyonder.co.uk>
To: <HIGHLA-L@LISTS.PSU.EDU>
Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2001 8:17 PM
Subject: Re: [HL] The Who
> >
> > >> The Who's set just tore up the stage. <<
> >
> > They used to do that literally.....
> >
> > Elaine, giving away her age. :-)
>
> And hotel rooms ;-)
>
> Jette (who's not that far behind Elaine)
> "Work for Peace and remain fiercely loving" - Jim Byrnes
> jette@blueyonder.co.uk
> http://www.jette.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/fanfic.html
------------------------------
Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2001 15:19:52 -0700
From: Pat Lawson <plawson@webleyweb.com>
Subject: Re: OT: I've Seen Tracker!(spoilers)
RED57 wrote:
>My fellow Listanistas
> > Lora writes:
>
> > Not to many just a few GRENERAL comments
> >
> > s
> > p
> > o
> > i
> > l
> > e
> > r
> > s
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > I was scared when I realized that the former WWF Chyna was the evil guest
> > star but she was OK.
That worried me when I heard it. Then I remembered Richard Moll as Slan in
the HL pilot. I'm going to try to ignore things like stunt casting in
pilot episodes.
>She wasn't too bad - she was rather good as a robotic evil nemesis, but her
>character had "taken on a human form" or some such and so her verbal and
>motor skills were a lot smoother than Adrian's character. She was actually
>pretty good delivering her few lines.
I'll get to find out at 8 PM today.
Pat
------------------------------
Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2001 13:06:55 -1000
From: Geiger <geiger@maui.net>
Subject: Re: OT: I've Seen Tracker!(spoilers)
S
P
O
I
L
E
R
S
F
O
R
T
R
A
C
K
E
R
P
R
E
M
I
E
R
E
E
P
Various things could be said about this show, some good, but time & energy
are problems for me lately....
> He is obviously and alien in a created body. You never see what he looked
> like just energy, then he somes across a billboard with a pic of a model
I've read that an important distinction between Cole/the Tracker as a good
alien & the escapees & Zin as the baddies, is that only Cole goes to the
time & effort of _creating_ a life-like form--because he refuses to kill
innocents; the others take over existing people, instantly killing the real
them (though their corpses only become obvious after Cole captures the
occupying alien essences--making him look like a killer & surely causing him
bigtime cop problems later on). A result is the baddies almost immediately
"get" humanity, since their bodies are "local," while Cole has to start from
scratch & figure out everything from language & walking on up. That's a
large part of the show's storyline, apparently, but it puts him at a
disadvantage fighting the baddies. Unless it's explained better in a later
ep, the important good guy side of Cole's choice are rather downplayed.
> (AP)
> in his underwear SNIP
Certainly nothing to sniff at, & I'm as entranced as anyone....at least for
the 1st couple scenes.
> So we get AP running around in his tighty whities for a lot of the show.
But, after awhile, it seemed to me to be too much & exploitive. What if it
were a _female_ character running around (& around....) in a wee bra &
thong? It reminded me of Relic Hunter's heroine doing a whole (fight, I
think) scene in a lacy bra in that show's premiere ep--the last I bothered
watching, though I've heard it's kept up the jiggle factor & not added much
else. Given the 2 shows' creative connection, I'm not sanguine about this
aspect of Tracker.
More story, please. More _about_ Cole & the various character
relationships, as opposed to the forms.
Nina (&, deal lord, it ALL seemed done on the cheap!!!!! NO intro sequence
was aired, right--just scene one w/ minimal credits rolling over the
action???)
geiger@maui.net
------------------------------
Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2001 20:18:51 EDT
From: Dotiran@aol.com
Subject: Re: OT: I've Seen Tracker!(spoilers)
In a message dated 10/21/2001 5:21:18 PM US Eastern Standard Time,
plawson@webleyweb.com writes:
> > > Lora writes:
> >
> > > Not to many just a few GRENERAL comments
> > >
> > > s
> > > p
> > > o
> > > i
> > > l
> > > e
> > > r
> > > s
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I was scared when I realized that the former WWF Chyna was the evil
> guest
> > > star but she was OK.
>
>
Actually she was the only thing I didn't like about the show. It added a
sleezy, cartoonish character to an otherwise sylized, funny, romantic,
promising show.
------------------------------
Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2001 20:47:35 -0400
From: Sandy Fields <diamonique@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: OT: I've Seen Tracker!(spoilers)
At 08:18 PM 10/21/01, Dotiran@aol.com wrote re China:
> > > >
> > > > s
> > > > p
> > > > o
> > > > i
> > > > l
> > > > e
> > > > r
> > > > s
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
>Actually she was the only thing I didn't like about the show. It added a
>sleezy, cartoonish character to an otherwise sylized, funny, romantic,
>promising show.
I agree, Dotiran. I could have done without her altogether.
-- Sandy (liked the show!)(it's got potential!)
------------------------------
Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2001 21:39:41 EDT
From: PWFan16@aol.com
Subject: Re: OT: I've Seen Tracker!(spoilers)
That worried me when I heard it. Then I remembered Richard Moll as Slan in
the HL pilot. I'm going to try to ignore things like stunt casting in
pilot episodes.
Well at least RM was an actor from YEARS on Night Court so I was not worried
Lora
------------------------------
End of HIGHLA-L Digest - 19 Oct 2001 to 21 Oct 2001 (#2001-285)
***************************************************************