HIGHLA-L Digest - 26 Jul 2001 to 27 Jul 2001 (#2001-223)
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Topics of the day:
1. : bootleg tapes & more
2. bootleg tapes & more
3. New email address
4. SPOILER: Tracker news
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Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2001 10:27:50 +0100
From: "John Mosby (B)" <a.j.mosby@btinternet.com>
Subject: Re: : bootleg tapes & more
> You sounded "all upset" then to me, as you do now. Maybe it was the way
you
> mentioned needing to correct Carmel right away before I could comment.
But,
> OK, let it be known that previously you were--what? Mildly miffed?
> Conspicuously concerned? Yet, of course, responded politely. Heaven
forbid
> that your character should be stained.
And there you go. A response to Carmel that couldn't have been stated more
politely and nicely...and yet you and your thesaurus seem DETERMINED to add
some negative emotion to it, depsite every single thing to the contrary.
"Gee you WERE polite, but I'll bet you WERE really pissed off too????"
Strange reasoning, indeed and obviously - to everyone else on this List -
utterly wrong. I had the grace to apologise if I'd misconstrued your
tone/wording and yet all you can do is pick out some poor alliteration in a
vain effort to salvage your point.
Simply stating an opposing fact is not the same as 'getting upset' with the
person who made the original comment, however much you may wish to think
otherwise. As a lawyer, I'm surprised you keep making that fundemental
mistake. Rather than simply arguing your case on its merits (which you've
done well on several occassions) you now seem to take every opportunity to
undermine the writer of the post with catty asides. That's NOT the same as a
criticism of content, or even of writing style....it's just a basic cheap
shot, especially when blatantly incorrect.
You may not the only person to do that, but it remains a rather depressing
tactic (and any 'everybody else is doing that anyway' defence would kinda
fly in the face of your other moral stances).
John
Now Fractionally Frustrated.
"A person's character can be stained by the result of his actions, but only
kept clean by the opinion of others."
-anon.
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Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2001 04:04:40 -0700
From: Pat Lawson <plawson@webleyweb.com>
Subject: Re: bootleg tapes & more
Bridget wrote:
>And there are plenty of people who make money by interviewing anyone
>associated with the series or the movies and then writing articles
>about the interviews for magazines such as People or Us. As I said
>in my last post, and as I think Carmel's statements here agree, the
>whole issue of getting into someone else's universe to do new things
>to it isn't all that crisp. I mentioned interactive games,
>collaborative universe stories such as the "Thieves' World" books in
>science fiction. I've heard there are even interactive novels,
>although I personally haven't seen them. These all invite the
>reader/player to bring their own creativity and ideas into the
>original writer/game designer's universe.
Adding a sidebar to Bridget's comments.
LucasFilms has given official sanction to a website which hosts Star Wars
fan films; the "Star Wars showcase and breeding ground for films made by
fans, for fans". Not only do the films use the Star Wars universe and
characters, their creators make money on them. Royalty payments are based
on the advertising and sponsorship revenues generated by the
website. Films must be parodies or documentaries, and fanfic is not accepted
This is does not prove that LucasFilms disapproves of fanfic. It's at
least as likely they exclude it for the same reason most TV shows,
including HL, don't accept unsolicited scripts. They're protecting
themselves from future lawsuits charging plagiarism. In the absence of
other evidence no conclusion can be drawn regarding George Lucas' attitude
toward fanfic.
No need to jump on this with comments about the relative legality of
parodies, documentaries, and fanfic. We've been round that bush so many
times we've worn a rut in the dirt. I'm simply providing an example of
PTB *inviting* fans to play in their universe, using their toys, and even
make some money from it.
Pat L.
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Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2001 23:46:51 +1000
From: Carmel Macpherson <Carmel@stuartfieldhouse.com>
Subject: New email address
Hi everyone
>From tonight my old tunnack@ozemail address will no longer work. Any of hte
following will get to me (she said confidently)
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carmel@stuartfieldhouse.com
carmel@hldu.org
tunnack@hotmail.com
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Kind regards
@ Carmel Macpherson:
<<<@{}=================>>> Chief EDFWs
@ carmel@hldu.org
http://www.carmelmacpherson.com/
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Highlander DownUnder: The Official HL Fan Club of Australia
PO Box 198, Brisbane Albert St QLD 4002, Australia.
OR, for US members, make out checks to Fran and send $US25 to: Fran Koerner
P. O. Box 3565, Palos Verdes, CA 90274
Visit the HLDU club site: http://www.hldu.org
***HLDU5. May 2003. Brisbane***
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Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2001 08:56:42 +1000
From: Carmel Macpherson <Carmel@stuartfieldhouse.com>
Subject: SPOILER: Tracker news
Hi all
I've been having fun reading the Official Tracker web site which has just
been updated:
Check out the latest updates to the Tracker Official page - :
http://www.trackertv.com/
And here are pictures of his co-star (thanks Leah)
http://honeybee165.tripod.com/Amy_PriceFrancis.html
I must admit that I am looking forward to this Series - particularly as it
sounds as if they are going to attempt many of het things that I love so
much about Highlander - attempting story arcs and putting a strong emphasis
on characterisation and relationships. I also like the idea of it having a
pub as a focus. And I particularly like the idea of Adrian, that well known
control junkie actually *having* such control over so much of the
production.
Remember those days when a new episode of Highlander was coming on? I'm
beginning to feel the same way about Tracker. Sure I've watched other shows
since HL finished but I just haven't found a series that really grabs me
like HL did. Have I missed it? Is it out there and I just haven't come
across it?
It appears that Adrian's character's alien life form will be (SPOILER)
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a being of pure energy and light.....
Here is the synopsis:
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http://www.trackertv.com/synopsis.html
There's been a prison break. Over a hundred dangerous convicts have escaped.
They're led by Zin, the smartest and most ruthless felon known to man. But
these criminals aren't from any world we know...they're from planets that
could eat us for lunch. Zin devised a wormhole in space that transported all
of them to Chicago, where they've set up shop and now traffic in every kind
of criminal activity imaginable.
They have powers that are no match for us: the ability to take the form of
any human or animal, super-strength and speed, superior intelligence, and
something even more frightening - each one of them is a different kind of
alien being - and they each have powers that are individual, unique...and
immense!
But the prison has sent help. A TRACKER. His mission is to capture each and
every one of them, dead or alive. He teams up with Mel, a hip, 28th year old
bar-owner with a destiny she will soon discover.
They're a kick-ass couple, an alien and an earthling. Fighting the evils of
the universe...and, at the same time fighting something even stronger - an
attraction to each other
Kind regards
@ Carmel Macpherson:
<<<@{}=================>>> Chief EDFWs
@ carmel@hldu.org
http://www.carmelmacpherson.com/
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Highlander DownUnder: The Official HL Fan Club of Australia
PO Box 198, Brisbane Albert St QLD 4002, Australia.
OR, for US members, make out checks to Fran and send $US25 to: Fran Koerner
P. O. Box 3565, Palos Verdes, CA 90274
Visit the HLDU club site: http://www.hldu.org
***HLDU5. May 2003. Brisbane***
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