HIGHLA-L Digest - 26 Jan 2001 to 27 Jan 2001 (#2001-50)

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      Topics of the day:
      
        1. EuroMinutes _Raven -Reborn (9)
        2. ap blurb (2)
        3. HL:EG box office--SPOILER
        4. tell me pl
      
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      Date:    Fri, 26 Jan 2001 22:28:33 -0500
      From:    JoAnne =?iso-8859-1?Q?Bri=E8re?= <jojoann@videotron.ca>
      Subject: Re: EuroMinutes _Raven -Reborn
      
      At 16:12 -0500 26/01/01, jjswbt@earthlink.net wrote:
      
      >1) Scene:
      
      >American:
      
      >Euro:
      
      Canado-euro
      Saw them, paid for part of them out of my taxes therefore =>  they are
      Canado-Euro minutes !
      Same for Highlander the serie.
      
      JoAnne
      jojoann@videotron.ca -
      
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      Date:    Fri, 26 Jan 2001 23:57:17 -0500
      From:    Sandy Fields <diamonique@earthlink.net>
      Subject: Re: EuroMinutes _Raven -Reborn
      
      At 10:28 PM 01/26/01, JoAnne Brière wrote:
      
      >Canado-euro
      >Saw them, paid for part of them out of my taxes therefore =>  they are
      >Canado-Euro minutes !
      >Same for Highlander the serie.
      
      Hmmm... that's an interesting way to look at it.  When I bought my videos I
      paid for them out of my taxes, too.  So does that make them
      American-Eurominutes?
      
      I thought the extra minutes were called eurominutes because they are the
      scenes that the European television market gets and the American television
      market doesn't get because we have more commercials on tv.  Now I find that
      it's based on whether or not a person paid for their videos out of their
      tax money.
      
      What if I saw them on tv in a country that gets these extra minutes when
      the show is aired and I never bought them at all?  What are they called
      then?  Free-Eurominutes?
      
      Sheesh!
      
      -- Sandy (I tell ya that woman needs a fresh bowl of cornflakes!)
      
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      Date:    Sat, 27 Jan 2001 01:44:16 -0500
      From:    Marina Bailey <tmar@fast.co.za>
      Subject: Re: EuroMinutes _Raven -Reborn
      
      Sandy wrote:
      >What if I saw them on tv in a country that gets these extra minutes when
      >the show is aired and I never bought them at all?  What are they called
      >then?  Free-Eurominutes?
      
      Yes! Heheheh... And we got them!!
      
      - Marina, cackling wildly. Actually, I just have one question to ask
      Wendy about this: WHY, Wendy? WHY??
      
      \\ "Cast your eyes on the ocean; cast your soul ||>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> //
      //to the sea. When the dark night seems endless,|| R I C H I E >> \\
      \\   please remember me." - Loreena McKennitt   ||>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> //
      //======Marina Bailey======tmar@fast.co.za======||                \\
      \\============Chief Flag Waver and Defender of Richie=============//
      
      "I'd rather be watching 'The Sentinel'... no, 'Highlander'... wait,
      'Stargate SG-1' is on... Oh, hell, make it all and make it so!"
      - Tarryn
      
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      Date:    Sat, 27 Jan 2001 08:44:10 -0500
      From:    JoAnne =?iso-8859-1?Q?Bri=E8re?= <jojoann@videotron.ca>
      Subject: ap blurb
      
      In TV 7 Jours - edition 3 au 9 février 2001.
      
      Picture - leather jacket, grey tee-shirt.
      
      Text : Adrian Paul, la vedette de Highlander, devient un chasseur de primes
      du futur. Il touchera huit millions pour ce rôle. Gil Grant, l'idéateur de
      "Sydney Fox, aventurière", produit la série encore sans titre, qui sera
      tournée à Vancouver. "Ça fait plaisir de retrouver ses fans de télé, après
      trois ans au cinéma" , mentionne-t-il. Paul termine un film policier à
      Budapest, A Breed Apart.
      
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      Date:    Sat, 27 Jan 2001 08:53:48 -0500
      From:    JoAnne =?iso-8859-1?Q?Bri=E8re?= <jojoann@videotron.ca>
      Subject: Re: EuroMinutes _Raven -Reborn
      
      At 23:57 -0500 26/01/01, Sandy Fields wrote:
      
      >Hmmm... that's an interesting way to look at it.  When I bought my videos I
      >paid for them out of my taxes, too.  So does that make them
      >American-Eurominutes?
      
      I thought you bought them with the money you earn working !
      
      >I thought the extra minutes were called eurominutes because they are the
      >scenes that the European television market gets and the American television
      >market doesn't get because we have more commercials on tv.  Now I find that
      >it's based on whether or not a person paid for their videos out of their
      >tax money.
      
      I thought they were that here, on account of old list culture and
      commercials that advertised the tapes of the serie as "europeans footage
      never seen before in america" ....
      
      The shows were made 48 minutes long on account on Canadians & French
      broadcasting laws - no more than 12 minutes of commercials per hour in
      Canada. Not a whole lot in France.
      They get edited in the states because your laws allows much more
      commercials.They aired completely, fully, unedited and uncensored in their
      producing countries. The minutes are the real stuff.  What you do not get
      is ... well your "lacune". (lack of stuff). The eurominutes are simply ...
      the minutes. Insisting of granting them the single title of euro, again
      dismiss the canadian input.
      
      
      >-- Sandy (I tell ya that woman needs a fresh bowl of cornflakes!)
      
      I don't like cornflakes anymore today than I did before.Croissant. Are.
      Totally. Fine.
      
      JoAnne
      
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      Date:    Sat, 27 Jan 2001 09:29:57 -0500
      From:    pgannon <pgannon@OPTonline.net>
      Subject: Re: ap blurb
      
      JoAnne, my French is very rusty - does this say he has just finished a
      movie, "A Breed apart" and will be returning to Vancouver to film a TV
      series?  Thanks,
      
      Peggie (kids are studying Spanish and so are no help at all!)
      ;-P
      ----- Original Message -----
      From: "JoAnne Brière" <jojoann@videotron.ca>
      To: <HIGHLA-L@LISTS.PSU.EDU>
      Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2001 8:44 AM
      Subject: ap blurb
      
      
      > In TV 7 Jours - edition 3 au 9 février 2001.
      >
      > Picture - leather jacket, grey tee-shirt.
      >
      > Text : Adrian Paul, la vedette de Highlander, devient un chasseur de
      primes
      > du futur. Il touchera huit millions pour ce rôle. Gil Grant, l'idéateur de
      > "Sydney Fox, aventurière", produit la série encore sans titre, qui sera
      > tournée à Vancouver. "Ça fait plaisir de retrouver ses fans de télé, après
      > trois ans au cinéma" , mentionne-t-il. Paul termine un film policier à
      > Budapest, A Breed Apart.
      >
      
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      Date:    Sat, 27 Jan 2001 09:51:36 -0500
      From:    Elaine Nicol <ElaineN@compuserve.com>
      Subject: Re: EuroMinutes _Raven -Reborn
      
      >> The eurominutes are simply ...
      the minutes. Insisting of granting them the single title of euro, again
      dismiss the canadian input. <<
      
      I can totally sympathise with this view.   Every time I read about Duncan
      coming from England or people saying England when they mean Britain.  I
      suppose we are all guilty of this kind of thing.
      
      BTW I personally usually call them Missing-Bits, even my disc with them on
      it is labelled Missing-Bits, of course it also gives the bits that are
      missing from the UK showing that were in the US version.
      
      Elaine.
      
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      Date:    Sat, 27 Jan 2001 11:29:30 -0500
      From:    jjswbt@earthlink.net
      Subject: Re: EuroMinutes _Raven -Reborn
      
      I  showed by USA-centrism by saying:
      >>American:
      >
      >>Euro:
      
      JoAnne feels the need to wave her flag:
      >Canado-euro
      >Saw them, paid for part of them out of my taxes therefore =>  they are
      >Canado-Euro minutes !
      >Same for Highlander the serie.
      
      Oh Frell!
      
      Ya know....they've been called Eurominutes for a frelling long time (since I produced the 1st Season bunch way back when)(With Marina's help.)("Hi,  Marina".) ...no....it isn't 100% frelling accurate ..I was trying to do a frelling favor for the vast majority of HIGHLA listees who don't have the frelling luck to be living in frellng Canada (or Scotland or France for that frelling matter.)
      
      That's what I frelling get from frelling trying to be frelling nice.
      
      Wendy(Maybe I'll just call them non-existent.)
      
      
      
      
      Fairy Killer
      jjswbt@earthlink.net
      http://home.earthlink.net/~jjswbt/index.html
      
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      Date:    Sat, 27 Jan 2001 12:03:49 -0500
      From:    KLZ <zklee@patriot.net>
      Subject: Re: EuroMinutes _Raven -Reborn
      
      > >Canado-euro
      > >Saw them, paid for part of them out of my taxes therefore
      > =>  they are
      > >Canado-Euro minutes !
      > >Same for Highlander the serie.
      >
      
      Disclaimer:  No political discussion is intended.  Any person
      referred to is referred to in passing, without comment on
      political party, job performance, election results, or any other
      politically-oriented subject.  YMMV.  One to a customer.  No
      [insert desired name of minutes here] included.  Farscape
      glossary included.
      
      Harrrumph.  I paid taxes to support the persons who created the
      Internet.  Therefore, I would like this List to be named
      "Americo-Highla-L".  Furthermore, I would like the name to be
      qualified, in descending order, by the percentage of the amount
      that those things cost the American taxpayer, that my taxes
      represent.  Therefore, the name of this list should be
      "XX%-Americo-Highla-L".
      
      Now, the *whap* porch *whap* denizens are *thunk* busily *bam*
      belaying me *thunk* about the ears with canes and rocking
      agitatedly, and giving *bash* opinions that *thunk* the List
      should be further qualified by who's *BASH* been here the *OUCH!*
      longest, starting with *Thud* Founding Geezers and List
      Methusalahs.  Therefore (STOP THAT!), the List should be named
      "ListGoddessness-FoundingGeezers-ListMethusalahs-GeezerlyPersons-JustPlainGrouches-Lurkers-Geebies-RegularNormalSaneListees-PersonsofRecentArrival(tm)-xx%-Americo-Highla-L".
      
      Hah.  Put that on your Sender line!
      
      Personally, I think that the name of the [insert desired name
      here]-minutes should be named according to the predominant market
      that purchased the tapes.  Since the overwhelming majority of the
      tapes were probably purchased in the US, they should be called
      USMinutesMissingFromTheSeriesButAreOnTheTapes-minutes.
      
      ~grumpyandrubbinghead
      
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      Date:    Sat, 27 Jan 2001 12:34:13 -0500
      From:    "Claire L. Maier, Ph.D." <bioaw124@emory.edu>
      Subject: Re: HL:EG box office--SPOILER
      
      On Wed, 24 Jan 2001, Pat Lawson wrote:
      
      > At 01:23 PM 1/23/01, Lance twitted:
      > > > >
      > > > > I'm driven by passion, not unlike MLK, JFK and Ghandi.
      > >
      > >The only possible difference might be i have MORE passion than they.  I never
      > >quit.
      >
      > Uh Lance?  MLK, JFK and Ghandi didn't quit.  They were killed.
      >
      > That reminds me, you know nothing helps a cause like having it's leader
      > martyred.   How badly do you want your cause to succeed?
      
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      Pat has an excellent point.  MLK, JKF and Ghandi were killed.  Christ
      willingly allowed himself to be sacrificed.
      
      I think that if Lance is truly serious about his cause, he should be
      willing to go them one better.
      
      I think Lance should show his solidarity with his fallen leader by cutting
      off his own head.  Nothing could better demonstrate that it's not reality
      that matters, it's *passion.*  TPTB would have to take notice.
      
      Well, Lance?  It's easy to post on a mailing list or newsgroup how
      passionate you are.  But when push comes to shove, are you really?  If you
      are going to compare yourself to Christ, then you should be willing to do
      what he did, at the very least.  *He* faced death by torture, willingly.
      The least you could do is behead yourself-- it would be very quick.
      Child's play by comparison.
      
      Aren't you willing to sacrifice your own head to save Connor's?
      
      If not, then your hypocricy will be apparent to all.
      
      --
      Claire Maier, Ph.D.   bioaw124@emory.edu   CLMaier (within AOL only)
      
          To be different is not necessarily to be ugly;
          to have a different idea is not necessarily to be wrong.
          The worst possible thing is for all of us to begin
          to look and act and think alike.
                  -- Gene Roddenberry
      
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      Date:    Sat, 27 Jan 2001 13:26:57 -0500
      From:    "Claire L. Maier, Ph.D." <bioaw124@emory.edu>
      Subject: Re: tell me pl
      
      On Tue, 23 Jan 2001, Rita Ballantyne wrote:
      
      > where does the Tessa name come from? diminutive for what?
      
      It probably originally started as a diminuitive for "Theresa" or
      "Contessa," but in the US, it's a name in its own right.  Although it's
      hard to say why a French woman would have been named "Tessa."
      
      --
      Claire Maier, Ph.D.   bioaw124@emory.edu   CLMaier (within AOL only)
      
          To be different is not necessarily to be ugly;
          to have a different idea is not necessarily to be wrong.
          The worst possible thing is for all of us to begin
          to look and act and think alike.
                  -- Gene Roddenberry
      
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      Date:    Sat, 27 Jan 2001 12:26:17 -1000
      From:    Geiger <geiger@maui.net>
      Subject: Re: EuroMinutes _Raven -Reborn
      
      Joanne spewed--
      > Canado-euro
      > Saw them, paid for part of them out of my taxes therefore =>  they are
      > Canado-Euro minutes !
      > Same for Highlander the serie.
      
      Joanne, what IS the French for "chip on shoulder" & "ax to grind" & "pissing
      off Wendy so that no one gets to enjoy her kindly provided EUROminutes"?
      
      Nina
      geiger@maui.net
      
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      Date:    Sat, 27 Jan 2001 18:55:33 -0500
      From:    Sandy Fields <diamonique@earthlink.net>
      Subject: Re: EuroMinutes _Raven -Reborn
      
      At 08:53 AM 01/27/01, JoAnne Brière seems to feel that how a person paid
      for their videos is relevant to list terminology:
      
      >I thought you bought them with the money you earn working !
      
      Possibly things are different where you live, but here we work for the
      money and then pay part of it out in taxes.  So taxes *are* money that I
      earned by working.
      
      But does it really matter how a person paid for their videos?  I was being
      facetious, but since you never seem to get my humor, I'll break it down for
      you.  In the past few days you've let it be known that you have issues with
      Americans and with the term "eurominutes".  This list has been inhabited by
      Americans (among others) since its inception, and the term eurominutes has
      been used here and elsewhere for a number of years.  Now you seem to have a
      problem with both.  Since the Americans will continue to hang out here, and
      sinice the term eurominutes will continue to be used here, I could suggest
      a remedy for your problem; but that wouldn't be neighborly so I'll refrain
      from doing so.
      
      <snipped lengthy discussion of why they're called eurominutes>
      
      It's irrelevant.  I just hope your personal issues haven't discouraged
      Wendy from continuing her research so she can bring us more Raven
      eurominutes.  They're a lot more interesting than Lance and his
      non-existent consortium.
      
      -- Sandy
      
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