HIGHLA-L Digest - 18 Jan 2001 to 19 Jan 2001 - Special issue
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There are 18 messages totalling 841 lines in this issue.
Topics in this special issue:
1. Animated Methos Chronicles (5)
2. Greetings and Question about Endgame (6)
3. Animated Methos Chronicles (HL:EG spoilers) (3)
4. HL:EG box office--SPOILER (4)
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Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 22:01:31 EST
From: Dotiran@aol.com
Subject: Re: Animated Methos Chronicles
In a message dated 1/18/01 7:56:21 PM US Eastern Standard Time,
geiger@maui.net writes:
<< Did GH say if she's involved in writing for this
She said she is not writing for it.
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Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 22:02:52 EST
From: Dotiran@aol.com
Subject: Re: Greetings and Question about Endgame
In a message dated 1/18/01 8:45:52 PM US Eastern Standard Time,
geiger@maui.net writes:
<< No, no, no. Sex gets cut for US consumption (blast it); butchering gets
cut
for Europe.
hehehe now *that's* funny.
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Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 22:44:28 -0500
From: Gina Shaw <ginadc@ix.netcom.com>
Subject: Re: Greetings and Question about Endgame
Lance asks:
>Are we men or are
>we mice?
:: Looks down briefly ::
Yep, thought I remembered correctly. Neither, in my case.
Nor are we delusional. Well, all but one of us.
Gina
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Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 19:58:20 -0800
From: Merrie Gail Foerster <damemehri@juno.com>
Subject: Re: Greetings and Question about Endgame
No, Lance. Many of us are women. If you have a serious problem with
rodents, I recomment that you get a cat.
Endgame is as it is. TPTB have new projects and so do the Actors
involved. You need to move on as well.
Merrie Gail - The Elder Merrie, fan since 1992
Mehri's Mountain
http://www.liripipe.com/merrie
Astrological Data, Cats, Cyberportraits and Fanfiction...
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Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 00:09:11 -0500
From: Marina Bailey <tmar@fast.co.za>
Subject: Re: Animated Methos Chronicles (HL:EG spoilers)
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>Lance and his menagerie babbled....
>> Too bad they couldn't give us a Connor series, animated or otherwise.
>>that really would win over the many fans they have lost with their
>>butcher job.
>I dunno - I think they'd run out of plots for a headless Immie pretty darn
>quick. I mean, it might be amusing to watch his body bumble around trying
>to find his head for a *while*, but then what? Connor's headless body goes
>to Disneyland? Solves pesky murders in a small Maine town? Ooh! Maybe
>during sweeps there could be a touching and heartfelt episode where he meets
>up with Kell's headless body and they forgive one another. Awww. <sniff>
You know, I tried not to laugh at this, but I couldn't help myself.
Does that make me a bad girl? I mean, I would have been highly upset
if someone had written that (and did write something similar, previously
on this list)about my favourite character.
I suppose this is all relative. At least the Clan Denial has more
than one member (and we can prove it, and some really have spoken to
TPTB, however informally). *Snerk*
And not that anyone is interested or cares, but I've been a HL fan
since 1985.
- Marina. (I have this urge to write, "So there," but I think I will
refrain.)
\\ "Cast your eyes on the ocean; cast your soul ||>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> //
//to the sea. When the dark night seems endless,|| R I C H I E >> \\
\\ please remember me." - Loreena McKennitt ||>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> //
//======Marina Bailey======tmar@fast.co.za======|| \\
\\============Chief Flag Waver and Defender of Richie=============//
"I'd rather be watching 'The Sentinel'... no, 'Highlander'... wait,
'Stargate SG-1' is on... Oh, hell, make it all and make it so!"
- Tarryn
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Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 05:48:27 -0500
From: Kenneth David Sherlock <sherloc3@pilot.msu.edu>
Subject: Re: Greetings and Question about Endgame
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> It's not about GUTS, Lance. I for one have no problem with them killing
> Connor. Have you seen him in the movie? Christopher Lambert is getting
> OLD. Specially that shot in the past with him lifting the sword over his
> head. So much for being immortal. The torch should be rightfully passed
> from Connor to Duncan, as is the torch from Christopher to Adrian. I just
> wish they'd made a better movie with a better story.
> Gerry
The previews of Endgame in the states made it pretty obvious that Conner would
not see another sequel.
> r too old to continue the HL character,
similar to watching an aging Roger Moore in the Bond movies. Do you suppose if
the films were more successful we might see Duncan handing the baton to a
younger Scotsman (woman) in the years to come?
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Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 19:35:23 -0000
From: Rita Ballantyne <kilmarnock.oradea@virginnet.co.uk>
Subject: Re: HL:EG box office--SPOILER
SPOILER!!!
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> > And, that's "death knell."
Lance, donát u think u should start convincing Christopher first? if he
changes his mind abt participating, it can all happen for u. but ONLY in
that case-
Rita
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Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 06:49:23 -1000
From: Pat Bentley <patb@hawaii.rr.com>
Subject: Re: Animated Methos Chronicles
Hi there,
Anybody got any idea what kind of software/hardware we are gonna need to
view this animated Methos cyber series? I'm getting worried I'm gonna be
left out of the loop here. Who would we need to write to to ask?
Patter
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Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 12:27:52 EST
From: Dotiran@aol.com
Subject: Re: Animated Methos Chronicles
In a message dated 1/19/01 11:46:25 AM US Eastern Standard Time,
patb@hawaii.rr.com writes:
<< Anybody got any idea what kind of software/hardware we are gonna need to
view this animated Methos cyber series? I'm getting worried I'm gonna be
left out of the loop here. Who would we need to write to to ask?
I don't know, but the promo for it calls it a "splash" site.
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Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 17:17:32 -0000
From: Jette Goldie <jettegoldie@thefreeinternet.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Animated Methos Chronicles
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Pat asks
> Anybody got any idea what kind of software/hardware we are gonna need to
> view this animated Methos cyber series? I'm getting worried I'm gonna be
> left out of the loop here. Who would we need to write to to ask?
Well, they're using Flash on the advertising site - Flash is quite
effective for animations so maybe that's what they'll go with.
Jette
Glory may be fleeting, but obscurity is forever!
jettegoldie@thefreeinternet.co.uk
http://members.tripod.com/~bosslady/fanfic.html
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Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 17:08:34 EST
From: Lance Aldridge <GPrimeCEO@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Greetings and Question about Endgame
In a message dated 1/18/01 6:18:35 PM Central Standard Time, Dotiran@aol.com=
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> << Connor must live again, and it bothers me that few
> "HL" fans have the guts to undertake this massive effort.
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> ::::::batting eyelashes::::::but, but, I thought you said there were a
> million fans at the save Connor march last month :::::::::::::::
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There were. But by my standards this is not enough. You should all find th=
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conviction to fight for Connor.
Lance rallies:
>Connor must live again, and it bothers me that few
>"HL" fans have the guts to undertake this massive effort.
>Are we men
::looks herself over carefully:::
no.>>
Then be a real woman and fight for Connor.
>I ask that you join us and fight the good fight.=A0 Justice must be done.
<<Sorry...I'm having trouble equating "avenging" the death of a fictional=20
character in a bad B-movie to anything remotely called "the good fight"...le=
t=20
alone "justice".
>>
What was done to Connor was an injustice not only to the character, but to u=
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all as fans
.
>I spoke clearly.=A0 If TPTB don't comply, the Consortium can be very
>unforgiving.
<<Unforgiving? You want unforgiving? I still haven't forgiven TPTB for=20
writing Adam out of "Bonanza". (And don't tell me it was because Pernell=20
Roberts wanted to move on.) In a long life of TV and movie viewing, there=20
will always be some decisions that you hate. Best to learn to live with=20
them...forming Consortiums (Consortia?) can be very draining after the first=
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dozen or so.
>>
Not when the Conosrtium has thousands of passionate members.;
>So they butchered the script as well as Connor.
<<I don't remember any butchering...although it may have been cut for US=20
consumption.
>>
It was butchered.
>>>Connor's death, and his beratement to make Duncan look good, is what left
a
bad taste in mst true HL fan's mouths.
<<Debbie, I thought you'd issued an edict on "true fan" crap?
>>
Why is it crap. It is my opinion. If you disagree, I have no problem.
<<Ooh--remember what they did to Beauty & the Beast?=A0 _That_ was butchery.=
>>
Yes, it was.
<<It's not about GUTS, Lance. I for one have no problem with them killing
Connor. Have you seen him in the movie? Christopher Lambert is getting
OLD.=A0 Specially that shot in the past with him lifting the sword over his
head.=A0 So much for being immortal.=A0 The torch should be rightfully passe=
d
from Connor to Duncan, as is the torch from Christopher to Adrian. I just
wish they'd made a better movie with a better story.
>>
I disagree. We have suspended disbelief thus far, we can do it for Connor.=20=
=20
He's worth it, IMHO and much more interesting than his lesser cousin.
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Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 17:15:10 EST
From: Lance Aldridge <GPrimeCEO@aol.com>
Subject: Re: HL:EG box office--SPOILER
In a message dated 1/18/01 6:22:16 PM Central Standard Time, rshelton@jps.ne=
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> >Connor's death, and his beratement to make Duncan look good, is what left=
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> >bad taste in mst true HL fan's mouths. We will not rest until this=20
> travesty
> At 6:58 PM -0500 01/18/2001, Lance Aldridge wrote:
> >Starting with editing out Connor's fruitless death scene. It was horrid,=
a
> >true insult to genuine HL fans IMHO.
>=20
> Okay - I've stayed out of all this so far. But the Listowner has expressly
> asked you et all to cease & desist w/the "True Fan" crap. Do you think you
> could bear to follow the rules??
>=20
> I consider myself a true/genuine fan as I've been a fan since the very
> first movie, been on this list for 5 years or so & been to/worked numerous
> conventions. But I don't necessarily agree w/your views & that doesn't
> automatically make me less of a fan that you. So can you please follow the
> rules like everyone else? I'm getting tired of reading this. And try
> to remember
> to use spoiler spaces - your previous post about a 'butcher job' w/o space=
s
> could be construed to be a spoiler.
>=20
> Rachel
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Rachel, IMHO, if you were alright with Connor dying in HL:Endgame, then you=20
don't really feel the essence of highlander. It resides in the true=20
Highlander, not the pretender. Of course, this is my opinion.
<<Lance, don=E1t u think u should start convincing Christopher first? if he
changes his mind abt participating, it can all happen for u. but ONLY in
that case-
>>
Lambert has publicly stated that, if invited, he would like to revisit the=20
role of Connor. All tptb have to do is wake up and smell the coffee.
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Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 17:18:55 EST
From: Lance Aldridge <GPrimeCEO@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Animated Methos Chronicles (HL:EG spoilers)
In a message dated 1/18/01 6:34:20 PM Central Standard Time,
jenwade@email.msn.com writes:
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> I dunno - I think they'd run out of plots for a headless Immie pretty darn
> quick. I mean, it might be amusing to watch his body bumble around trying
> to find his head for a *while*, but then what? Connor's headless body goes
> to Disneyland? Solves pesky murders in a small Maine town? Ooh! Maybe
> during sweeps there could be a touching and heartfelt episode where he meets
> up with Kell's headless body and they forgive one another. Awww. <sniff>
>
> Jen
> I think you should know, the Consortium keeps watch on people who make sick
> jojes about Connor and his supporters. This was not funny, and I hope
> .
<<And not that anyone is interested or cares, but I've been a HL fan
since 1985.
>>
Then you are a true HL fan if you thought Connor's death was meaningless.
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Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 17:20:36 EST
From: Lance Aldridge <GPrimeCEO@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Greetings and Question about Endgame
In a message dated 1/13/01 4:36:15 PM Central Standard Time,
bioaw124@emory.edu writes:
>
> The boycott of an unreleased DVD goes well with the non-existant
> Consortium with fake members, the non-existant meetings with DPP, the
> non-existant march with faked pics, and the con the hotel supposedly
> hosting it has never heard of.
>
> > Gina, who's heard Martin Luther King Jr.'s name invoked inappropriately
> > many times but never with quite this degree of silliness
>
> Lance has been doing it over on alt.tv.highlander for a few months now. I
> was surprised it took him so long to start it over here. It gets quite a
> reaction from newbies who see it for the first time. However, I think most
> people on this list recognize flamebait when they see it.
>
>
I happen to consider that MLK, Ghandi, and JFK are in my league. That's not
ego, its self confidence, and that's whats needed for strong leadership.
I don't joke about these things, though it makes some feel better to think i
do.
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Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 14:34:28 -0800
From: "R. Shelton" <rshelton@jps.net>
Subject: Re: HL:EG box office--SPOILER
At 5:15 PM -0500 01/19/2001, Lance Aldridge wrote:
>In a message dated 1/18/01 6:22:16 PM Central Standard Time, rshelton@jps.net
>writes:
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> > >Connor's death, and his beratement to make Duncan look good, is
>what left a
> > >bad taste in mst true HL fan's mouths. We will not rest until this
> > travesty
> > At 6:58 PM -0500 01/18/2001, Lance Aldridge wrote:
> > >Starting with editing out Connor's fruitless death scene. It
>was horrid, a
> > >true insult to genuine HL fans IMHO.
> >
> > Okay - I've stayed out of all this so far. But the Listowner has expressly
> > asked you et all to cease & desist w/the "True Fan" crap. Do you think you
> > could bear to follow the rules??
> >
> > I consider myself a true/genuine fan as I've been a fan since the very
> > first movie, been on this list for 5 years or so & been to/worked numerous
> > conventions. But I don't necessarily agree w/your views & that doesn't
> > automatically make me less of a fan that you. So can you please follow the
> > rules like everyone else? I'm getting tired of reading this. And try
> > to remember
> > to use spoiler spaces - your previous post about a 'butcher job' w/o spaces
> > could be construed to be a spoiler.
> >
> > Rachel
>
>Rachel, IMHO, if you were alright with Connor dying in HL:Endgame, then you
>don't really feel the essence of highlander. It resides in the true
>Highlander, not the pretender. Of course, this is my opinion.
I didn't say I was alright with Connor dying - personally, I disliked
the movie.
I only asked you to follow the rules as stated by the Listowner & cut this
"true fan" BS.
Rachel Shelton *
rshelton@jps.net
@}->->->-
"Dream as if you'll live forever; live as if
you'll die tomorrow. . ."
~ unknown~ HL IV: Endgame
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Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 17:40:40 -0500
From: Gina Shaw <ginadc@ix.netcom.com>
Subject: Re: HL:EG box office--SPOILER
Lance blathered:
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>>Rachel, IMHO, if you were alright with Connor dying in HL:Endgame, then you
>>don't really feel the essence of highlander.
"Essence of Highlander"? I think I saw that in a potpourri shop the other
day. You spray it around the room and everything smells like a big, sweaty
guy with a sword.
Gina
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Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 17:56:11 -0500
From: "Claire L. Maier, Ph.D." <bioaw124@emory.edu>
Subject: Re: Animated Methos Chronicles
On Thu, 18 Jan 2001, Geiger wrote:
> Dorothy--
> > Writing on the ATH board, Gillian Horvath confirmed that this is for real.
> > <A HREF="http://www.methos.org/news/methos-2001-01-16.html">methos.org...
> > Home</A>
>
> So much for my prayers it was a joke.
>
> Did GH say if she's involved in writing for this? Or who is?
Apparently it's going to be an Internet thang. Gillian said she writes
TV.
--
Claire Maier, Ph.D. bioaw124@emory.edu CLMaier (within AOL only)
To be different is not necessarily to be ugly;
to have a different idea is not necessarily to be wrong.
The worst possible thing is for all of us to begin
to look and act and think alike.
-- Gene Roddenberry
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Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 18:49:29 -0500
From: Jen Wade <jenwade@email.msn.com>
Subject: Re: Animated Methos Chronicles (HL:EG spoilers)
----- Original Message -----
From: Lance Aldridge <GPrimeCEO@aol.com>
To: <HIGHLA-L@LISTS.PSU.EDU>
Sent: Friday, January 19, 2001 5:18 PM
Subject: Re: Animated Methos Chronicles (HL:EG spoilers)
> In a message dated 1/18/01 6:34:20 PM Central Standard Time,
> jenwade@email.msn.com writes:
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> > I dunno - I think they'd run out of plots for a headless Immie pretty
darn
> > quick. I mean, it might be amusing to watch his body bumble around
trying
> > to find his head for a *while*, but then what? Connor's headless body
goes
> > to Disneyland? Solves pesky murders in a small Maine town? Ooh! Maybe
> > during sweeps there could be a touching and heartfelt episode where he
meets
> > up with Kell's headless body and they forgive one another. Awww.
<sniff>
> >
> > I think you should know, the Consortium keeps watch on people who make
sick
> > jojes about Connor and his supporters. This was not funny, and I hope
Go ahead and watch, my boy. Besides, I wasn't joking. I was mocking. I
like Connor (not as much as the ROG, but hey), but he's still very much
headless.
Jen
~~~
It's not about who's right or wrong. No denomination's
nailed it yet, 'cause they're all too self-righteous to
realize that it doesn't matter what you have faith in, as
long as you have faith.
- Serendipity, Dogma
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