HIGHLA-L Digest - 31 Jan 2001 to 1 Feb 2001 (#2001-56)
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There are 14 messages totalling 490 lines in this issue.
Topics of the day:
1. Darius/Attila the Hun
2. Eurominutes_Raven - Full Disclosure (4)
3. AP Praised: "Attila" Panned & Miscast
4. Tracker blurb (3)
5. [geezerporch] Tracker blurb (2)
6. Tracker blurb (fwd)
7. QOS gone in Boston (2)
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Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 00:29:50 -0500
From: Toni Stewart <toni822@webtv.net>
Subject: Darius/Attila the Hun
FVersch@aol.com wrote:
I think Darius was loosely based on Atilla's life. I think it was Atilla
that vowed to fight to the shore's of Europe but he stopped at Paris'
gate.
Peace ~~ Fred
Good point! I never thought of that, but you may be right. Take a look
at this site. According to this, Attila stopped at the gates of Rome
after being influenced by the Pope.
I checked out a couple of sites about Attila after watching the show.
They all agree that although he was brutal in battle he was a brilliant
military strategist and was a just ruler. Sounds more like Darius than
I would have thought. Especially given Darius' fondness for dissecting
military battles and his love of chess.
I enjoyed the mini-series. I love shows that make me get online
afterward and learn something. Hmmm... no wonder I love HL!!
Toni
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Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 08:49:32 +0200
From: Tarryn Zank <Zankt@nu.ac.za>
Subject: Re: Eurominutes_Raven - Full Disclosure
Nina said:
Of course, the minus column had several entries for this ep. >>
I agree. Re the scene where Amanda shoots herself in the car to prove her immortality.....
Where the heck is all the blood? I am not a medical person, so I have never come across such things in real life, but when someone shoots themselves point blank like that, surely there would have been a huge hole in her, blood sprayed everywhere, and considerable damage to the car door? Her lovely white outfit never had a mark. (actually, maybe that's why... did they use designer clothing in Raven? Maybe they weren't allowed to detroy the stuff) But the scene was saved when she woke in Nick's arms and he promptly dropped her! That was hysterical. Wonder if there was a mat on the ground?
Tarryn
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Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 22:33:22 -1000
From: methos <methos@pixi.com>
Subject: AP Praised: "Attila" Panned & Miscast
The online edition of the Boston Herald has the "Attila" review
at this URL:
http://www.bostonherald.com/entertainment/television/atti01302001.htm
The second paragraph is the real gem and gives us a fun opportunity to
(briefly) speculate on how Adrian would have done in the role. I think he
could have done a tremendously intense, vibrant, exciting performance. IMHO.
TC
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Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 10:07:14 -0500
From: jjswbt@earthlink.net
Subject: Tracker blurb
Ruthlessly stolen from an SFTV report on NAPTE: (http://sftv.org/natpe/)
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Tracker - From the Depths of Space... The Hunt is on. Starring Adrian Paul as an alien bounty hunter come to Earth to track down escaped criminals set in Chicago. (Sounds like Brimstone with aliens instead of evil souls). From the promo sheet on the series:
"There's been a prison break. Over a hundred dangerous convicts have escaped. They're led by Zin, the smartest and most ruthless felon known to man. But these criminals aren't from any world we know...they're from planets that could eat us for lunch. Zin has devised a wormhole in space that transported all of them to Chicago, where they've set up shop and now traffic in every kind of criminal activity imaginable.
They have powers that are no match for us: the ability to take the form of any human or animal, super strength; superior intelligence;and something even more frightening-each one of them is a different kind of alien being-and they each have powers that are individual, unique...and immense!
But the prison has sent help. A TRACKER. His mission is to capture each and every one of them, dead or alive. He teams up with Mel, a hard-luck girl who is finally on the road to salvation as a cub reporter for a Chicago newspaper.
They're a kickass couple, an alien and an earthling, fighting the evils of the universe and, at the same time, fighting something even stronger-an attraction to each other.
Executive producer/Show Runner is Gil Grant, executive producer of Relic Hunter. Lion's Gate Television. No mention of who would be Mel or how many markets it has been sold to. It appeared to be getting a good amount of attention at the Lions Gate booth.
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The parenthetical in paragraph 1 is original .The site has a picture too- the poster for the show with AP in scruffy Tracker mode.
Glad to see I wasn't far off on my guess for the girl partner/love interest...hard luck girl reporter (Ya know she has to be small and blonde)(Unless they go for small redhead.). This is set in Chicago? And they are using Vancouver to film? Good luck. The weather is different, the buildings are different, the surrounding countryside is different. Oh wait...no one will catch that because everyone who watches TV comes from NY or CA and neither group has ever been to Chicago. <snort>
Wendy(Imagining Tracker driving out of "Chicago" into the lovely fir and snow covered mountains of Cook County, IL.)
Fairy Killer
jjswbt@earthlink.net
http://home.earthlink.net/~jjswbt/index.html
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Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 10:20:05 -0500
From: comet <comet@ao.net>
Subject: Re: [geezerporch] Tracker blurb
On Thu, 1 Feb 2001 jjswbt@earthlink.net wrote:
> criminals set in Chicago. (Sounds like Brimstone with aliens instead
> of evil souls). From the promo sheet on the series:
they're right, even to how the promo reads it sounds likethe opening lines
from Brimstone
> blonde)(Unless they go for small redhead.). This is set in Chicago? And
> they are using Vancouver to film? Good luck. The weather is different,
they should have filmed in Toronto, much closer to Chicago
> wait...no one will catch that because everyone who watches TV comes from
> NY or CA and neither group has ever been to Chicago. <snort>
really?
> Wendy(Imagining Tracker driving out of "Chicago" into the lovely fir
> and snow covered mountains of Cook County, IL)
hardly
comet (from cook county, IL)
comet@ao.net
There is no sound, no voice, no cry in all the world that can be heard
until someone listens. -- narrator, OL "The Message"
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Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 10:56:23 -0500
From: Dragon Lady <dragonlady@darkmage.net>
Subject: Re: Tracker blurb
Geeze ... wasn't this one of the "Superman" movies?
--DL
>"There's been a prison break. Over a hundred dangerous convicts have
>escaped. They're led by Zin, the smartest and most ruthless felon known
>to man. But these criminals aren't from any world we know...they're from
>planets that could eat us for lunch. Zin has devised a wormhole in space
>that transported all of them to Chicago, where they've set up shop and now
>traffic in every kind of criminal activity imaginable.
>
>They have powers that are no match for us: the ability to take the form of
>any human or animal, super strength; superior intelligence;and something
>even more frightening-each one of them is a different kind of alien
>being-and they each have powers that are individual, unique...and immense!
>
>But the prison has sent help. A TRACKER. His mission is to capture each
>and every one of them, dead or alive. He teams up with Mel, a hard-luck
>girl who is finally on the road to salvation as a cub reporter for a
>Chicago newspaper.
>
>They're a kickass couple, an alien and an earthling, fighting the evils of
>the universe and, at the same time, fighting something even stronger-an
>attraction to each other.
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Date: Thu, 1 Feb 1973 14:26:23 -0500
From: Judith Schneider <judiths@CapAccess.org>
Subject: Re: Tracker blurb (fwd)
Wendy wrote:
>
> Ruthlessly stolen from an SFTV report on NAPTE:
> (http://sftv.org/natpe/)
>
> *********************************************************
> Tracker - From the Depths of Space... The Hunt is on.
> Starring Adrian Paul as an alien bounty hunter come to Earth
> to track down escaped criminals set in Chicago. (Sounds like
> Brimstone with aliens instead of evil souls). From the promo
> sheet on the series:
>
I forwarded this to a friend of mine. She said that one of Richie's lines
from the first season seemed appropriate: "The CIA and the Intergalactic
Space Patrol can't find these guys but you, Duncan MacLeod, can."
I don't think I could say it any better myself. 8)
<snip>
Judy, the Chocolate Slayer judiths@capaccess.org
Waving a flag for the blue feather and a turbolight for Apollo
"I never met a chocolate I didn't like"--Deanna Troi
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Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 16:20:24 -0500
From: "Terry L. Howard" <howardtl@muohio.edu>
Subject: Re: [geezerporch] Tracker blurb
At 10:20 AM 2/1/2001, you wrote:
> > Wendy(Imagining Tracker driving out of "Chicago" into the lovely fir
> > and snow covered mountains of Cook County, IL)
>
>hardly
>
>comet (from cook county, IL)
>comet@ao.net
Just shake the ground a little bit , cover with snow-- puff instant
mountains. (eg)
Refugee form Duncan YMCA on Monroe Ave, its moved to Roosevelt, and the
Vets Admiration.
Terry L. Howard
MCIS Network Operation Center
112 Hoyt Hall
"I had a great idea this morning, but I didn't like it."
- movie mogul Samuel Goldwyn
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Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 18:59:38 -0500
From: Heidi <heidi@apocalypse.org>
Subject: QOS gone in Boston
For those of you in the Boston area who have been watching PWingfield/
VPelka in Queen Of Swords on WHUB, don't count on seeing the rest of
the season locally. I found out that as of yesterday WHUB no longer
exists, it's now a shopping channel. Several months ago someone had
told me about an article in the Globe that mentioned the station was
being sold, but at that time it sounded like regular programming
would probably continue until `summer rerun' season started. But I
guess things happened sooner then they expected.
(Anyone out there willing to tape/copy (for trade or costs) the rest
of the season for some of us who just lost our source? Or are there
any trees going? Even though I've got a pretty mixed opinion of the
show, PW and VP being in it is enough reason to want to see the rest
of the episodes.)
=}{=
(heidi@apocalypse.org)
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Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 19:24:24 -0500
From: "Claire L. Maier, Ph.D." <bioaw124@emory.edu>
Subject: Re: Eurominutes_Raven - Full Disclosure
On Wed, 31 Jan 2001, Geiger wrote:
> people still had hope for the spinoff. Of course, the minus column had
> several entries for this ep. (Amanda being fluent in _Navaho_???)
Why not? She spent time in the circus in the US Southwest. Perhaps she
learned it then. Maybe there were some Navaho people working in the
circus at the same time and she learned it from them.
--
Claire Maier, Ph.D. bioaw124@emory.edu CLMaier (within AOL only)
To be different is not necessarily to be ugly;
to have a different idea is not necessarily to be wrong.
The worst possible thing is for all of us to begin
to look and act and think alike.
-- Gene Roddenberry
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Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 19:28:32 -0500
From: "Claire L. Maier, Ph.D." <bioaw124@emory.edu>
Subject: Re: Eurominutes_Raven - Full Disclosure
On Wed, 31 Jan 2001 jjswbt@EARTHLINK.NET wrote:
> > 1--Carlo Rota was terrific as Cardoza (not as great as he is on LFN, but still)--a baddie w/ panache; he
> >should have been kept around rather than promptly (& rather unconvincingly)
> >killed off.
>
> It would have been nice to have seen a bit more character development
> with Cardoza.( Of course this could be said of most Raven characters)
Cardoza had a *lot* of character development compared to other Raven
villains, especially most of the Paris baddies. I really liked the
gourmet chef assassin thang.
> Was he still an "assassin" or was he now only interested in killing
> mortals who knew his "secret"? Did Amanda have a long history with
> him or was Warsaw the first time they met?
He might have been good to bring back in a subsequent fb.
--
Claire Maier, Ph.D. bioaw124@emory.edu CLMaier (within AOL only)
To be different is not necessarily to be ugly;
to have a different idea is not necessarily to be wrong.
The worst possible thing is for all of us to begin
to look and act and think alike.
-- Gene Roddenberry
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Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 19:34:45 EST
From: Highlandmg@aol.com
Subject: Re: QOS gone in Boston
hi I found it thisa week on fox and then maybe on channel 38 so check it out
Mary
I found this on line on tv guide site
Mary
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Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 15:12:23 -1000
From: Geiger <geiger@maui.net>
Subject: Re: Tracker blurb
Wendy regales us w/ official info (not as riveting as her home-spun stuff,
but still interesting)--
>>> "There's been a prison break. Over a hundred dangerous convicts have
escaped. They're led by Zin, the smartest and most ruthless felon known to
man. >>>
"Zin"? That's the best they could do? It sounds like the newest pricey
perfume.
>>>But these criminals aren't from any world we know...they're from planets
that could eat us for lunch.>>>
Well, _that'll__ make for good TV. Other planets munching on Earth. Pass
the syrup. (I hope this blurb wasn't written by the folks tackling
scripts.)
>>> Zin has devised a wormhole in space that transported all of them to
Chicago, where they've set up shop and now traffic in every kind of criminal
activity imaginable.>>>
The entire galaxy available, & these dudes chose _Chicago_? Must be the
pizza.
> They have powers that are no match for us: the ability to take the form of
any human or animal, super strength; superior intelligence;and something
even more frightening-each one of them is a different kind of alien
being-and they each have powers that are individual, unique...and immense!
Um, I don't care about _them_. What about AP's character? What's _he_ got
that's "unique...and immense!"?
>>> But the prison has sent help. A TRACKER. His mission is to capture
each and every one of them, dead or alive. He teams up with Mel, a
hard-luck girl who is finally on the road to salvation as a cub reporter for
a Chicago newspaper.>>>
Dear God.... A "cub reporter"--I haven't heard that since one of the old
Superman shows. I dislike dear Mel intensely already. What does she have
against the rest of her name?
>>> They're a kickass couple, an alien and an earthling, fighting the evils
of the universe and, at the same time, fighting something even stronger-an
attraction to each other.>>>
Who writes this crap?! I for one hope this "kickass couple" loses the
battle against mutual attraction fast, regularly & graphically; after the
chaste Raven & Queen of Swords, I am more than ready for some decent
headboard rattling in my genre, thank you very much, & AP is certainly
perfect casting. Plus, disposing of all the "will they/won't they" nonsense
might allow time for actual story-telling.
> Executive producer/Show Runner is Gil Grant, executive producer of Relic
Hunter.
Blech. That doesn't raise my expectations.
Wendy--
>>>This is set in Chicago? And they are using Vancouver to film? Good luck.
The weather is different, the buildings are different, the surrounding
countryside is different. Oh wait...no one will catch that because everyone
who watches TV comes from NY or CA and neither group has ever been to
Chicago. <snort>>>>
Remember--no one notices details like that. Or, anything at all, according
to what some shows put on the air. Then, their quick cancellation &
disappearance are also unnoticed.
Nina
geiger@maui.net
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Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 15:52:34 -1000
From: Geiger <geiger@maui.net>
Subject: Re: Eurominutes_Raven - Full Disclosure
Wendy--
> Nina is nice:
No one's gonna buy that.
> >2--The scene where Amanda kills herself & revives to scare the
> >crap out of Nick--very fun.
Wendy--
> >>I liked that she did it so cavalierly. The MacLeod boys always make such
a somber production of the event >>>
Yes, that approach for that scene worked in Raven. But, for me, they went
way too far & took a relentlessly cavalier approach to _everything_
(dialogue, plot, characters, swordplay, canon, etc.) in the spin-off, & that
didn't work.
>>>I loved the fact he dropped her in the dirt- that probably bothered her
more than putting a hole in her shirt (which disappeared in the next
scene)>>.
If anyone's gonna have Immortal clothes, it's Amanda.
> I'll say this for Raven..it was better than "Queen of Swords"
Yes, but Raven had many, many times the potential of QoS--at least for me,
being a huge HL fan & prone to nodding off during Zorro-type stuff.
>>>I'm warming up to Bert the second time around. >>>
Yes, he grew on me. Maybe it was the company he kept, but by the end, Bert
was cool & the actor was hot.
> And PJ is rather more handsome than I remembered.
Really? Personally, I have issues w/ a grown man/character who can't manage
his own hair, or at least brush it.
Nina
geiger@maui.net
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